DJ Dangerous

So that summarises quite concisely what modellers could realistically hope for, while at the same time a manufacturer could aim to launch two different coach models in two different liveries without having too much cash tied up for too long?

Any videos of the 121 models running today?

Like this one? https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234944273-an-124-ruslan-in-172-scale-modelsvit-kit-finished/

Don't be silly, it's the B&I ferry first.

Yeah, but those Bachmann green coaches only pop up every now and then, usually for silly money. The grey Bubbles will compliment my mini-rake of single-stripe Cravens.

That's my fault, but there's nothing else out there to run with a grey 121!

Awesome, thank you!

So A46 and A55 would be the two for that particular era?

So the 121's were delivered in grey in December 1960 and January 1961, and lasted at least five odd years before being painted black? Then the 141's were delivered in black in December1962? So a black 141 and a grey 121 running at the same time would have been prototypical? What livery would the A's have had between 1962 and 1966?

Would they then be IRMM coaches instead of IRM or MM?

If Arran were able to introduce a date filter on his site, eg start date and end date, that would make things even easier.

Sadly, most of the RTR stock that you have listed is not current. Tara's, Cravens, Fertilizer wagons, Container Liners, Ballasts etc are NOT available. Private sellers will pop up with things from time to time, usually asking for three times the real value, but as there are no guarantees, they can't be considered "current". Even the Super Train Mk2D's that are available have no EGV's available to match, so they're only borderline current stock. From an RTR perspective, we NEED new coaching stock released for the A's and 121's. That's kind of where this thread was aimed.

The pallet is probably destined for Murphy Models, who'll break it down and ship to distributors.

So all four IR models chosen by IRM ran very late indeed! Excellent choices!

Is that because everything sells too quickly nowadays?

If you send a PM to Arran, he'll reply with a list of what's appropriate for any era.

Do IRM have any Black Friday surprises lined up for us this year?

What's the flight number for today's lunchtime special???

So, if a manufacturer were to release two Laminate models, each of those in three different liveries, would it satisfy both the modellers desires for coaching stock from the 1950's through to the 1990's, and more importantly, would the manufacturer be able to run a large enough batch of each to keep the product affordable? I didn't realise that Kadee's were so NASA like as to have international standards etc. I was thinking more of their compatibility with current Cravens and locos, rather than with stock that they'd never be coupled to. As MP mentioned, would two wrongs make a right? Don't worry, I have OCD so I understand the obsession with uniformity, but I'm thinking of this from a practical or manufacturing point of view. A new coach is probably more likely to be coupled to a Cravens than to a class 37. Slightly off topic, on my own thread, so I guess I should punish myself for this, but why do the Cravens models have a much nicer paint finish than the ST Mk2D's? Is it that the Cravens were painted whereas the Mk2D's were moulded but not painted? If so, would the aforementioned two laminate models be better painted three different liveries or moulded from three different colour plastics? Were the interiors similar in colour for the three different exterior liveries?

That's fighting talk! Two wrongs always make a right!

It sometimes takes me weeks to find time to even unbox an RTR item, so kits wouldn't interest me at all. Maybe in thirty years time when I've already given up on life. Wouldn't that mean that the couplers on the new batch of Cravens would be at the wrong height relative to the current Cravens? As in, mixing the new batch with the old batch in the same rake would be difficult?

So the first ten years of the A have no compatible RTR coaching stock, even with a run of Cravens. Quite a dilemma for a manufacturer, on which to produce. What's wrong with the height of them? My Cravens and locos couple together grand, with the OEM TLC's. I'd rather see some blue and cream ones and some blue ones added to the mix. €160 a pop plus postage!

So 048 is a winner!

So would Cravens be an easier coaching model for a manufacturer to produce, to fill the coaching stock void that exists for the A's and 121's, since there were so few varieties and they covered a long period?