Northroader

I was looking at a picture the other day, and first I have to admit it’s the most shocking place to draw a reference from, as it the Armagh calamity, which must have really hit many people in that community, and still has the power to shock today. It’s just there are very little sources left to us from that time. The carriage on the left would appear to be a standard GNRI third class six compartment six wheeler. I would venture that the one on the right is also third class, with the close spacing of the compartments, and the skimping of the lamp spacing. It has five compartments rather than six, though. As much as can be made out, the body style of panelling and so on matches the other coach. Would it be an earlier build, or one of the absorbed lines? The three axles underneath look very close, was it a four wheeler which gained an extra wheelset similar to the saloon refurbish of the previous post?

Interesting that you changed the chimney, the Alphagraphix one looks a bit slender? Lovely little engine now it’s done.

Just looking at the proportions, I’d reckon a GWR road van would come close. They’re a very rare job, a standard van with goods van doors added on. There’s a picture of a laser cut model on Didcot Design Services, although I can’t call it up on the site. Page down on the GWR modelling site for details: http://www.gwr.org.uk/nobrakes.html

Nobody’s asked yet if you can make Dunluce Castle out of a 2P.

They tend to do short runs of popular prototypes, and outsource the production to ETS Trains, a Czech outfit. They do coarse scale 0 gauge, mainly retro tinplate with an enamel finish.

That layout is Edgware Road, not Ealing Broadway.

Real craftsman works there, doing the outside frames, cranks, and so on, that’s a great achievement, and the finish demands a lot of subtleness, and looks great.

Class 14. Canton drivers called them “iron lungs” (appearance) or “tampaxes” (you used them once, and threw them away)

And the lads at Downpatrick are busy fettling up an Ulster Railway first class four wheeler, with a very useful drawing, which is just what this this thread needs, so…. (and there’s a drawing of an U.R. van there, too)

Just looking at the drawing of the coach (which is very helpful to a modeller) it strikes me that there’s a central toilet/s fitted with a roof tank above. This must be very early on in the development of this facility, or was it a later addition? Got an end elevation? The photo shewing it lifted on slings looks like the end panel mouldings are missing. oh, and thanks for giving a van drawing, that’s magic.

I thought his layout Trowland was just perfection for a small pregroup terminus: http://www.s-scale.org.uk/gallery27.htm

It could just happen, when you consider the rail projects that have happened/ in progress in Spain with EU finance.

Alright until you get a 4’ 8.5” mug in a 5’ 3” hole.

Elizabeth line to Stratford, and pick up a St, Pancras to Dover there. (Route via Ashford) Taxi from Dover Priory is best way to finish. then again, maybe not, there’s a big gap between Stratford Underground and Stratford International (taxi?) so it’s fight your way through St.P to the Southeastern station.

In Cardiff, we had seagulls nesting on Cathays wagon shop roof, and they were a damn nuisance in the summer, walk up the yard and you would get divebombed. Now over at Canton, you’d get Terns nesting on top of the Black Shed, (the carriage shed), they weren’t such a nuisance. i haven’t been that way for a while, but all the third rail substations on the Southern used to have a big plastic eagle owl perched up on top of the high voltage breakers.

Really very sorry to hear this. He came across on here as a very genuine person, and i drew a lot of inspiration from his modelling. Condolences to his family.

Thanks, David, it is fun, definitely. When I posted that I was a bit down with problems getting sixcoupled locos through Peco setrak points and getting buffer locking as well, and of course I would, wouldn’t I? Quarts, pint pots, and so on. Today I’m rejigging and feeling far more positive.

“With hand built track and hand built locos there is significant potential for error”.. you ain’t kidding, I’m very much bogged down at present, and really admiring what you’ve pulled off.

Having seen what you can produce over in the RMweb Microlayouts section, I’m looking forward to seeing how your fireside thoughts develop.

There’s a similar line which must have drawn its inspiration from Thomas, and that’s “Ivor the engine”, just one engine set with in Wales with the folks round him. I would think that this could be adapted to an Irish setting quite easily. Theres a simple layout constructed on this theme described in this issue of the “Dispatch”, just page down until you reach “Ivor the Engine” https://micromodelrailwaydispatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Issue-6_final1.pdf

Here’s what it looks like at present, the whole lot has shrunk to fit a circuit on an 18” square board, based on the premise “what would the Highland Railway look like if it was narrow gauge?” But you could apply the same principle to most lines.

Would you be tempted by a caricature job, narrower gauge and larger scale, mine’s 1:32 scale, 20” gauge with 16.5mm track, or 1:34 scale, 9mm/foot, 22” gauge, which has some commercial figures available?

You strap them on your upper arm, so that everyone knows who’s doing a particular task, and remind you of your responsibilities. The pilot man comes into use for emergency single line working, any train passing through the affected stretch has to have him with the train, rather like a single line token with arms and legs. The lookout man goes with everyone working on the track where trains are operating, he has to be placed where he can see trains coming in time to give adequate warning for the guys to get clear. PICOP is where you have possession of a stretch of track for engineering work, but you can still get trains wanting to pass through, such as a ballast train, say, and he has to give permission for the train to pass through that stretch, and make sure everybody is clear, also sign for the start and finish of possession. Engineering Supervisor is similar without the possession, mainly worrying about stuff like lookouts. TSC is something stitched on since I retired.

I think with a model the wheels are hardly ever individually sprung like a full size job. If any carrying wheels form a hard point, they’re going to rob the driving wheels of adhesion. Therefore the lead scattered round inside the loco should be arranged so that the centre of gravity is over the drivers, and the bogie, in this case, is allowed to flop about without getting in the way, with enough weight or central springing to ensure it stays on the track. The Swilly engines look in photos to be a bit careworn, so does it really need an out of shops appearance? Just touch up any bare metal that’s appeared.

I was thinking just try increasing the width of your slot, so’s the bogie can traverse sideways a bit more?