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Great one of my favorite lines though I never got to see the gypsum trains running.

Looking great Frank the whole shebang stock buildings scenery you almost hear the Cork & Waterford accents as the crew of the ballast train discuss the upcoming Munster Hurling final at Dungarvan. I wonder has the District Manager's brother in law who works for the Duke of Devonshire http://www.lismorecastle.com/location taken over local freight operation using redundant D Class from Dublin? The old Duke built & owned the old Fermoy & Lismore and maybe the Dukes great great great Grandson took it back from CIE and ran it as a short/regional operation in the 1960s?

There is an option of a geared or rubber band primary reduction, It uses an O ring rather than a rubber band & spares were supplied with the bogie. I am looking at using the bogie under either a Clogher Valley or Ballymena 0-4-2ST loco. The narrow gauge wagons were more modern than they looked dating from the early 1900s. SSM MGWR & GSWR Convertibles this type of wagon lasted in service until the late 1950s

Some soft focus shots Seamus;) The models are based on photos in Irish Railways in Colour a second Glance 1947-70 Tom Ferris. There were a lot of detail variation between the C&L 4-4-0Ts both locos were sprayed with Railmatch Weathered black No 8 finished with a matt varnish No 2 satin. The Kits were supplied complete with motors wheels and gearing a mixture of whitemetal castings, brass and nickel silver etchings and cover most of the detail variations between the 8 locos.

The SLNCR was a highly distinctive and unusual railway in terms of just about everything even by Irish standards ideal for this style of modelling. David you talk about a coal train, have the SLNCR managed to built south to tap the Lough Allen coal and Iron deposits? 7mm or larger seems to be the way to go for this type of modelling, it makes me feel like throwing the 4mm stuff away and having a go at the Timoleague and Courtmacharry in 7mm.

The Heating and Luggage versions should both be available from October November. The models will be supplied complete with with OO gauge wheels and waterslide transfers. Kit £50 Assembled unpainted £110 Assembled painted & lettered £150 black and tan. Postage and Packaging £12 for one or multiple orders. The kits are mainly etched brass with whitemetal and resin castings, the battery boxes and fuel tanks are etched brass, but a pair one piece 3D printed fuel tanks will be available as an option for ease of assembly. I am looking at doing an initial run of 30 vans available to order in heating, luggage and TPO versions. Apart from their use singly as guards and luggage vans, a parcel and mail trains were often made up of a combination of these vehicles.

JHB took the words right out of my mouth speachless! David The Manchesterr Museum of Science & Technology might be able to help with a drawing of Sir Henry they hold the Beyer Peacock drawing collection. Any chance of a clooser look at the Leitrim tank? 7mm seems to be the way to capture the look of the traditional outside framed stock.

The Hornby J83 would probably be a good basis for a J11 http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/18279129_TbnP49#!i=1507957858&k=qVzDVhg&lb=1&s=A basically the tank version of the J15 seem to have been mainly used for heavy shunting and trip working around Cork.

I am looking at the feasibility of using lost wax brass or whitemetal for the internal framing, probably a rectangular rather than a channel section, both to add weight and to save the builders sanity, though I will be happy to supply the fully etched version. These were my initial thoughts for the standard 20' chassis 2 years ago, some of the local kit designers prepare their patterns using rapid prototyping technology which may be an option. Talking about weed killing trains how about this? http://jandjcottrell.zenfolio.com/p487224326/h2e392ac#h2e392ac

Its good to see someone having a go at these coaches the Laminates & Park Royals make a nice contrast to the modern fixed formation stock.

Looking very good Magpie, how did you do the roof? The Worsley Works coaches are fairly basic but fairly simple to build http://www.worsleyworks.co.uk/NG/NG_NIL_Art1.htm.

I am not sure it was dirt from sheer hard work or my imagination but the 071s seemed to be in a much darker richer shade of orange when first introduced than other stock. I think only one or two 071s were fitted with snatchers those fitted had gone by the early 1980s. By the early 80s the mounting bolts and cover plates were removed and the hole plated over.

The Midland introduced IRCH wagons before the amalgamation including hard and soft topped version of the standard IRCH van, the 5 plank open and flat wagons all basically to the same design as GNR stock, in GSR/CIE days these the wagon number wagons carried an m suffix. In MGWR days there was also had a Guinness (private owner?) version the modern IRCH patten van, so there is potential for MGWR/GSR/CIE versions of these wagons the only problem is in assessing the potential demand. John

Assembled from the test etches, everything basically fitted together as planned though I need to make a number of minor adjustments and finalise the brake gear . The solebars and top of the underframe channel folds up from one piece of brass to provide a rigid chassis, with rest of the detail fitting by tab and slot construction, assembly is time consuming than difficult. The chassis is designed for 21mm gauge however I can supply OO wheelsets with suitable axles. I am not sure if the lack of weight is going to be an issue, but the model is very free running it belw away a couple of times while I was taking the photos.

IE had to be seen to be getting the best return possible for the MK3s before disposing of them for scrap. I think IE invited submissions of interest before they were withdrawn and more earlier this year. It may have been a bit like the West Clare Diesels the asking price was too low.

Its funny fast forward to 30 years to present day Auckland rebuilt 1st generation GM export units being worked to death on Push Pull suburban trains.

Typical I wonder who will do the Official Wagons!

Brendan G!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MM 071, SSM Meabdh, Leslies IRCH standard van now the Guinness Iron Lung what next? I think the GNR originally may have carried 3 containers staggered on a standard 17'11" flat, then CIE used a 20' 11'wb wagon with 3 containers in line.

Very nice any idea of price and if Leslie is doing an unlettered version? The MGWR had similar hard topped and convertible vans which lasted into the late 1950s with Flying Snail and numbers with an m suffix.

Fair play Frank with all those industries you have managed to create an Irish outline American or Australian layout . Maybe the Distrrict Manager's brother is running a Short Line on the side when no one in Cork let alone Kingsbridge is looking? CIE was know for its clean locos and stock in the 60s and 70s the rot set in with IE in the 80s. Any chance of a closer look at those sheeted opens?

The Shale had much the same unloading arrangement with a gravity run off as the Mogul traffic at Foynes just much larger wagons http://irishrailwaynews.multiply.com/photos/album/48/Golden-Days-at-Foynes#photo=6. Paul Shannon's irish Railfreight Video has interesting footage at Castlemugnet, building an operating tippler would be the easy bit

Alexandra Road Dublin. http://maps.osi.ie/publicviewer/#V1,719569,734771,7,4. CIE fuel oil depot on left, ESSO in middle, Irish Tar and Bitumen with double line connection on left, the B&I container terminal was served by the partially lifted loop East of Breakwater Road, the Asahi Terminal was on the opposite side to B&I. I think the cut of 6 wagons in the Ortho 2000 view may well have been used for static storage. Has anyone a photo of the depot? All you ever wanted to know but were afraid to ask about Bitumen http://www.irishtar.ie/itproducts.htm

Tar seems to have been carried in 45Gal drums in open wagons up to the 1950s, then carried in anchor mounted tank wagons up to the introduction of de-mountables and liner train operation. Gruesome Tanker Galway 1980? Some of these wagons may have been used for storage at the Alexandra Road depot up to the end of railborne traffic. Besides Sligo, Oranmore, Cahir and Mallow there seems to have been depots at Ballingarne, Clarecastle, Cork, Ferns, Lixnaw, Tralee most of these closed with the ending of wagon load. Some depots like Ballingarne and Cahir had two storey buildings that presumably housed the heating plant and Council offices others like Tralee (Rock st) a simple structure housing the heating plant for transferring bitumen from rail to road tankers. Most only seem to have dealt with one or two wagons at a time Ballingarne had one extremly short siding. Tralee Rock St

I have had some progress and a few setbacks with getting the narrow gauge up and running but at least I seem to be moving forward. I have two Donegal railcars, four CIE steam locos and a little Bemo tractor the only reliably. The locos, railcars & were assembled from kits about 15-20 years ago. I was going to fit one of the railcars with a Bull-Ant but decided to try and persevere with the original Fleischmann Picillo N Scale drive. Fitting the Bull Ant would have required some work and the old whitemetal body mouldings seem to be getting brittle and may not survive the re-build. Brand new Bull Ant diesel shunter perhaps? Donegal/IOM Railcar This was built from a whitemetal kit dating from the 1970s 20 years ago, cracks appeared two of the cab window pillars when I started to do some work on the body to fit the Bull Ant, one of the cab sides then broke away from the roof, the joys of superglue assembly. The main problem with this car has been the wheels so it may be simpler to buy some better quality wheelsets. I decided to concentrate on the steam locos and managed to get the two Hunslets nicely, they both made it from the station to fiddle yard and back and actually managed to pull a train without a derailment:banana: In the 195os the old C&L had really clapped out locos and stock but the track had to be in first class condition for the many coal specials No 8 Queen Victoria based on a 1950s colour photo Built around 1996 painted and weathered with a Badger airbrush railmatch dirty black, not sure what I used on the smoke box, matt varnish finish. The bogies on these are a bit tempremental, combination off design, plastic centred wheelsets and my track. In must build a cradle to protect the paint finish while working on what are now fairly old models. In this case I have replaced the original wheels with a set of Parkside OOn3 wheels, and altered the bogie pivot to the classical trainset swing link arrangement. Now de-rails in only one spot, probably a combination of tight a radius and a track fault. The biggest on going problem is getting all rolling stock wheels up to standard and sorting out the couplings. Its impossible to determine whether a problem occurs as a result of the vehicle or track unless all the wheels are to a set standard. I have started to replace the worst wheelsets with Parkside, most of the wagons were supplied with loose wheels and axles which you had to fit yourself, many of which do not run true. I used kadee N scale couplers but coupling is not reliable mainly because of excessive sideplay with kit built stock. It may well be a matter of first sorting out the wheels and sideplay before looking at the couplers.

The 3/4 front view of the model certainly captures the same massive look as Glenderg's screen saver. If you ever get round to the D17 I will definitely have one maybe two to keep my J15s company 2 built, one in the works, 2 more waiting!