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Geez, the front end in particular has been on the wars all right

Initially I had said no but I think I will be getting one of these after all. IRM nor any other manufacturer will ever do these to be sure

The RPSI heritage set alone has a couple of Park Royals (c. 1955), a 1449 series CIE built open second (pre-)laminate (1958), and buffet car 2421 (1956) all sitting on 61'6 chassis. 1916 is not one of the original 1950s built brakes but was converted in the '70s. Originally it was a a 2162 series suburban composites (1956), the external and internal structure of which is well known and wouldn't take a lot to reverse engineer the conversion to its original composite condition. Some earlier Bredin designed GSR-built coaches also exist in preservation from the Cork-Dublin expresses or the Cork-Rosslare boat trains but these are on 57', 60' or 66' chassis some on 6 wheel bogies which will not see the light of day, although they may be some hope for the former group due to the longevity as primary and secondary stock.

They'd be a good color undercoat if the owner wanted to respray into yellow

The opulence of the GSWR dining car http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000519451

I say stick with the catering vehicles http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000303931

Interesting to see this cravens coach, 1504, the coach leader as I recall with the second class numeral on the door. More familiar to most as the MM 1504TL 00 model also on BnT but without any class numbers. When was standard class adopted (when did they lose the door numbers as such)? Did the first class coaches like 1149 retain a "1" on the doors even after they became 'Superstandards'?

Did the edit button go away? So now when I say "Let's eat grandma!" instead of "Let's eat, grandma" Dueling weapons have been drawn on these fora for a lot less ...

Having the new project manager should help lighten the load a little

Stay with the program, Dave. The word Irish wasn't mentioned the first post so I reckon you're still in the running for the Irish Railway Models side of the company. You'll need to bring your readers though, it's OO scale on that side, after all

I think you have your answer regarding weed sprays and BR MK1 GSV, lads

I'm confused why the model would be running with both red and white marker lights, though? Was use of mixed lights for shunting used in the irish 1960s rail scene? Or is that single market a trick of the light with the red on the outside lens?

http://www.sct61.org.uk/ciau344

Very interesting although I wouldn't dabble in N scale, it seems like OO is getting smaller these days! I wonder who went to the trouble of designing the CAD for this?

That would be the most sensible approach for the manufacturer to give the modeler the broadest modeling period possible

I think you're spoiled for choice on that one. I think A42, A55, A15 might all be in the running there but check that thread for more details on last run dates in a certain livery etc.

Granted, Jim. My comment on the preserved kettles was a bit tongue in cheek

I think it pretty clear I was referring to accidental deaths which far outweighs suicides. Since you asked, they do happen reasonably frequently with bridge jumpers and emergency personnel deal with both. You imagine the trauma experienced by the driver would be quite significant and I can tell you from experience that you're right. Let's leave it there maybe?

Coal burners, oil burners, diesels and maybe a methane burning steam loco as clean fuel initiatives tighten up?

True but happens on the road daily, same trauma I would imagine for a normally careful driver who might hit (say) a bicyclist or the like. Time to harvest that energy for something more useful udder than blowing off the roof

Well if you look at the alternative to rtr for the 1955-1963/5 period, there are some nice brass etched overlays by JM designs and simple resin kits/rtr from other manufacturers like IFM. There is a lot of work to do that you could channel elsewhere in modeling and the price point for small resin coaches by IFM is still relatively high for a complete model to a moderate standard.

Well strangely some cravens on the Bay are going for way more than that at the moment, dodgy NEM pockets or not

I guess that's up to the manufacturer but there is a definite void for high quality rtr coaches to run with several of the A classes that will emerge very shortly. The Cravens have been produced by MM but only in BnT livery. Park Royal coaches were introduced about 1955. I don't recall off hand if they were ever liveried in silver but certainly in green and later in BnT. There were two variants mainline and suburban.The Cravens were not introduced until almost a decade later, hence their modernity, leaving Silver, light green, dark green, and potentially early Black and Black with yellow panel A classes without much in the way of rtr rolling stock. I suspect a PR coach in green and BnT would be worthwhile for a manufacturer to produce. I suspect a rerun or updated Cravens might sell too. There seems to be some market but I don't know how large. Personally I have 2 rakes of Cravens so I probably would not buy more but I understand newer modelers may have missed out and these are now sought after by some. As for CIE built stock, I'm not sure. IRM took the 42' flat chassis and placed a ton of difference freight options on top. Most were modern era which may be more popular. A 61'6 coach chassis with various bodyshells in several liveries that lasted over 30 years might be possible. Personally I need rakes of them but I really don't know. We live in hope for those thing and of course 21mm track

The 1950s CIE-built coaching stock of which there were many variants open and side corridor, composite, diners and brakes lasted into the 80s before being fully replace by the Mk2s and ultimately the Mk3s in the mid 80s. As a group this is the most interesting for me. After that the cravens and Park royal also lasted into the 80s and even 90s, some Cravens still in secondary use until the 2000s. These form a more uniform coaching stock for rakes. Of course they all need brakes which aren't available, like the recent dilemma with the weedsprayer and weed spraying rake.