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Feast or Famine - Passenger Stock for A's and 121's
DiveController replied to DJ Dangerous's topic in Irish Models
Well if you were to do 'tin vans' there is not only a market for the hooded luggage van, but also the heating and luggage van and the 4w TPO and the Heuston tool vans for the modernist to tack onto spoils/ PWD and whatever else it did -
Oh that's class, Eamonn @enniscorthyman. Surprised by how many people are impressed with a somewhat 'discounted' livery. Exposure to this fine machine begets its own set of admirers (and buyers). I'm betting that there are gonna be a lot of people buying green and black, & BnT liveried A classes when they're seen too
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Amazing photograph, this is what we need to be modeling. Unmistakably Irish!
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The container is older and doesn't conform to the BIC container data standardized in 1995. It will conform to one of the 1948, 1956 or 1975 TIR conventions but I am not fully familiar with these. CIE is the owner and U just means freight container. The IRL 2080 on the second line probably means 20' length 8'0" height but that is intuition only, although I did note the gross weight as you did. Typically a 20' has a tare weight of 4k-4.8k lbs or 2 000Kg and a gross weight uo to 30,000 Kg )modern ISO possibly High Cubes etc. P20136 on page three seems to be occupying half of a 42' flat wagon in the 300xx series. 20 foot cubes have about 30 corrugations which would be less than 1' each. So I think your first impression was probably right that this is an older 20' container
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OK, the latter then, that's what I was thinking. It does show good attention to detail to have this with the model but can it/does it need to be actually fitted to the model? It would have been useful to have a small blurb on the additional parts with the model (e.g. 4 air hose, 2x IR lamps 1987 -, 2x additional rear lamp 1980s Push pull units IR & IE liveries only etc, speedometer thingy non-working etc) thanks for posting the pic
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Feast or Famine - Passenger Stock for A's and 121's
DiveController replied to DJ Dangerous's topic in Irish Models
And therein lies the problem with trying to convert narrow 9"0 or 9'6" english stock in pseudo irish stock. While there are brass etched sides etc that can be used, they're applied to stock that has the wrong end profile. The Irish stock was unique in that respect, taller with a stocky square and wider end profile. Some were very noticeably wider at 10'2 or more, wider at the level of the cantrail and operating on broad gauge track, wherein lies another modeling problem ... -
Looks longer than a 20' but not quite 40' box. Maybe a 30' like the FIF on page 2 of the thread which is an odd(ish) size
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Yep! Clear as mud (to me). Are we looking at the the things at the rear of each bogie, (fore and aft of the fuel tank), so there is one per bogie? Or is it the not so obvious thing lower down on the axle furthest from the photographer (just beneath/behind the cab steps)
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Looks like 'rear' square lamps, lamp irons, cylinder thingy (which someone else will need to comment upon, thanks for the photo), Newer lamps, older style gas lamps in black, skirts which will look nice at one end at least, prototypical couplings, I think, and various hoses on the top edge. So I'm no use to you on that cylindrical oil/water/lubricant thingy with the 'spout' Plenty on here will know though
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I added a photo above but the website is a bit quirky this morning (doesn't appear to save but if you press save again you end up with duplicates 5 minutes later @BosKonay). It's showing on my end now. It's also on page 2 or three of this thread already along with some other variations We don't have models on this side of the big pond yet so could you provide a photo of the cylinder thingy? @minister_for_hardship They may have the same bag of bits regardless of model/era so those lights may not be applicable to the grey & yellow for instance
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I'll second that. Good move to give all those additional lamp options like the square red tail lamps even if cosmetic. Slow running looks very good close to or equivalent to the 141s judging by the video
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They didn't come with the lamps irons fitted as such, nor buffers hoses etc but there are some photos of the locos on trial runs that'll I'll try to dig out and I suspect they had lamp brackets and wouldn't be on the network without them as per the lighting rules of fitting lamps in the event that the train/lighting failed 4th January 1961 Not the one I was looking for but you get the idea less than 2 months later, 24th Feb 1961
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I'm still not clear on when/which 121s changed from the original 4 marker lights (2 white left, one white right with red lens off) to three lights (single white each side with off red lamp in direction of travel) Can anyone elaborate definitely on this?
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Sold elsewhere then, I'd say
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Runs well but well beyond my skill level to do that. Shame there isn't a 'before' video with the original motion which he obviously wasn't very happy about. I thought Mashima motor were in very short supply now?
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Looks to be still active to me?
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IRM and Factory Weathering / Weathered Stock
DiveController replied to DJ Dangerous's topic in Irish Models
I don't think that IRM want to get into the issue of criticism of the models which are to a very high standard being marred by criticism due to poor weathering. If you look at say MM0177 which is a weathered 141 class basically it had a sorry of beige 'dirt' all over the loco including the windscreens iirc and is weathered but not very realistically IMO. Models may have moved on in their specs but I'm not sure that weathering has improved to match that progress as has been alluded to already -
Maybe I wasn't navigating it correctly, it showed the unboxing, but not the rebuild or decoder fitting as far as I could see
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Geez, the front end in particular has been on the wars all right
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Initially I had said no but I think I will be getting one of these after all. IRM nor any other manufacturer will ever do these to be sure
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Feast or Famine - Passenger Stock for A's and 121's
DiveController replied to DJ Dangerous's topic in Irish Models
The RPSI heritage set alone has a couple of Park Royals (c. 1955), a 1449 series CIE built open second (pre-)laminate (1958), and buffet car 2421 (1956) all sitting on 61'6 chassis. 1916 is not one of the original 1950s built brakes but was converted in the '70s. Originally it was a a 2162 series suburban composites (1956), the external and internal structure of which is well known and wouldn't take a lot to reverse engineer the conversion to its original composite condition. Some earlier Bredin designed GSR-built coaches also exist in preservation from the Cork-Dublin expresses or the Cork-Rosslare boat trains but these are on 57', 60' or 66' chassis some on 6 wheel bogies which will not see the light of day, although they may be some hope for the former group due to the longevity as primary and secondary stock. -
They'd be a good color undercoat if the owner wanted to respray into yellow
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The opulence of the GSWR dining car http://catalogue.nli.ie/Record/vtls000519451