DERAILED Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Couldn't agree more about the standard of cleaning on the 22000s on the Rosslare services. I am often on the evening departure from Connolly (18.35) as was, and a lad with a broom and a black plastic bag gets on in Gorey and makes his way through the train giving a cursory attempt to clear anything obvious. Simply not good enough and regularly when I am northbound from Wexford or Enniscorthy the train still has rubbish, crumbs etc. from its outward journey. The toilets are beyond comment. It isn't the lad with the plastic bag who is at fault but what passes for management in CIE/IE - couldn't manage a proverbial piss-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 23 hours ago, Darrman said: Well Monday's Enterprise journey was a bit of a mess: the 14:50 departed 40 late after its previous turn arrived 50 late, got held up at Fairview due to an incident on Clontarf Road, passed through Drogheda 70 late, and there weren't enough buses at Newry so I was waiting for their backup for 20 more minutes. In the end, I got into Lanyon Place 90 late and had missed two Derry trains. By then I was driven to madness - I started writing poetry about the state of the Enterprise. It's probably worth mentioning it was a CAF? On a brighter note, my long trip to reach Fintown was worth it, and there were a fair few people on board. However, the Giant's Causeway train was closed for maintenance, so that one is still on the to-do list. Heard that a physical incident took place onboard a DART hence the hold up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractionman Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractionman Posted August 31 Share Posted August 31 Rail cart! Sounds about right 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted August 31 Author Share Posted August 31 Odds are a 2x3 NIR CAF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Like these new RAIL CARTS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted September 1 Author Share Posted September 1 Enterprise Portadown / Dublin - Rail Service Alterations 01 September 10:35-01 September 20:30 services: Rail Due to operational difficulties, the following services will operate a non Enterprise service - these will be a normal rail cart with no first plus facilities and limited catering - 01/09/2024: 1035 - Portadown to Dublin. 12:50 - Dublin to Portadown. 16:35 - Portadown to Dublin. 18:50 - Dublin to Portadown. Translink apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. Bit of a long shot - does anyone have photos from August 2007 to late 2009? There was the fotopic website which shut down. @Gordon71 did you use fotopic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted September 1 Share Posted September 1 Rail “cart”? …interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted September 2 Share Posted September 2 Looks like October 7th is the revised date for Enterprise to start serving Grand Central Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted September 2 Author Share Posted September 2 2 hours ago, airfixfan said: Looks like October 7th is the revised date for Enterprise to start serving Grand Central Oh ffs. Is Grand Central delayed again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Looks like it might only open for local services on 22/9. Asking some questions but told 2 weeks ago by an Irish Rail source no Enterprise until.7/10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted September 3 Author Share Posted September 3 8 hours ago, airfixfan said: Looks like it might only open for local services on 22/9. Asking some questions but told 2 weeks ago by an Irish Rail source no Enterprise until.7/10 So what happens to Enterprise then??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted September 3 Share Posted September 3 Told local trains startbusing GC 22/9. Translink calling it a phased opening! Enterprise 2 weeks later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted September 4 Author Share Posted September 4 21 hours ago, airfixfan said: Told local trains startbusing GC 22/9. Translink calling it a phased opening! Enterprise 2 weeks later So Enterprise where? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 Ask Captain Kirk! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 I wonder will NIR railcars or 29s be a regular feature in the final new timetable? If so, they won't be actual "Enterprise" services. Will it be like in the late 1940s / 1950s when only certain trains are designated as such - and in this day and age with 1st class and catering - and others are just "ordinary" trains, I wonder? Or will ALL services be either 1st class / catering ICRs or DDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted September 4 Share Posted September 4 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: I wonder will NIR railcars or 29s be a regular feature in the final new timetable? If so, they won't be actual "Enterprise" services. Will it be like in the late 1940s / 1950s when only certain trains are designated as such - and in this day and age with 1st class and catering - and others are just "ordinary" trains, I wonder? Or will ALL services be either 1st class / catering ICRs or DDs? I think 1-2 a day will be NIR CAFs Vast majority DDs-ICRs 29s only as a backup AFAIK 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Hourly service will see 1 booked diagram for CAFs and 1 for an ICR set. DD failures if that happens will be replaced by railcars from 7/10/24 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Hourly service will be 3 DD sets, 2 ICR’s and 1 3000 6 car set. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Louth Posted September 5 Share Posted September 5 Irish Railway Records Society presentation this evening by Irish Rail indicated that DD stock will be withdrawn in 2027 and new tri-mode trains introduced in 2029 (diesel, battery and electric). Electrification to Drogheda will be 1,500 V DC and 25kV north to Belfast. Subject to correction but I think I noted it accurately. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted September 8 Author Share Posted September 8 NIR say that the 10.35/12.50/16.35/18.50 are CAFs. No, they are not. A friend that they had saw 9003 + 228 leaving Dundalk. Looking at the Translink app from Sep 23rd the 0600 from Belfast is to operate from Grand Central Station. I believe that this will be a DD?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractionman Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 Monday October 7 is the first date the timetable shows a rail service from Belfast to Dublin without the bus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted September 8 Share Posted September 8 3 minutes ago, Tractionman said: Monday October 7 is the first date the timetable shows a rail service from Belfast to Dublin without the bus 2hrs 15 - and with Centrsl Jct to new central station maybe a mile shorter than to old central, technically it’s slower point to point? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted Saturday at 18:40 Author Share Posted Saturday at 18:40 GC when? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted Saturday at 19:52 Share Posted Saturday at 19:52 Train service going to Lanyon according to Irish Rail. External investigation to GC rail fiasco underway now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted Saturday at 20:12 Share Posted Saturday at 20:12 19 minutes ago, airfixfan said: Train service going to Lanyon according to Irish Rail. External investigation to GC rail fiasco underway now So, a through service to Lanyon? From when? Until i can get a proper train to belfast, without buses, I'm driving - sorry, Eamonn Ryan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted yesterday at 08:22 Author Share Posted yesterday at 08:22 12 hours ago, airfixfan said: Train service going to Lanyon according to Irish Rail. External investigation to GC rail fiasco underway now FFS!!! So is the Enterprise likely to move to Belfast GC? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishTrainScenes Posted yesterday at 09:41 Author Share Posted yesterday at 09:41 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airfixfan Posted yesterday at 11:17 Share Posted yesterday at 11:17 Sounds like a CAF 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago On 5/9/2024 at 11:03 PM, Louth said: Irish Railway Records Society presentation this evening by Irish Rail indicated that DD stock will be withdrawn in 2027 and new tri-mode trains introduced in 2029 (diesel, battery and electric). Electrification to Drogheda will be 1,500 V DC and 25kV north to Belfast. Subject to correction but I think I noted it accurately. You’d really think they’d just convert the 1.5 V DC on the DART to 25 kV AC instead of extending the redundant DC system when it could be AC from Greystones to Belfast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractionman Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago On 5/9/2024 at 11:03 PM, Louth said: Irish Railway Records Society presentation this evening by Irish Rail indicated that DD stock will be withdrawn in 2027 and new tri-mode trains introduced in 2029 (diesel, battery and electric). Electrification to Drogheda will be 1,500 V DC and 25kV north to Belfast. Subject to correction but I think I noted it accurately. Anyone any insights on what happens with the Enterprise between 2027 and 2029? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NIRCLASS80 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago DD’s will be in service to the year 2030 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tractionman Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 6 minutes ago, NIRCLASS80 said: DD’s will be in service to the year 2030 Personally I would prefer regauged HSTs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_McLeod Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago Just a though, but if DDs can't go to GC yet, could NIR and IR enter into some arrangement whereby the Enterprise is temporarily operated entirely by ICR sets with the DDs working to Galway or Sligo. If it's possible that would avoid the Enterprise returning to Lanyon Place and would enable GC rail operations to get started until the problem is sorted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorPan Posted 11 hours ago Share Posted 11 hours ago 11 hours ago, Branchline121 said: You’d really think they’d just convert the 1.5 V DC on the DART to 25 kV AC instead of extending the redundant DC system when it could be AC from Greystones to Belfast. The talk addressed that. Currently 3% of the network is electrified. They could spend the money retrofitting the existing DART network to 25kV AC or use it to expand the electrification corridor. Makes sense to decarbonise more of the network. They do plan to retrofit 25kV AC along the DART corridor eventually and indeed, I can easily see the next gen of DART units being designed to be dual voltage to allow a phased switch over. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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