GSR 800 Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 6 hours ago, Killian Keane said: Those are beautiful thank you Eoin, the tender is very nearly finished A riveting process indeed! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 Thats the 800 tender finished, hopefully 8 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 9 Share Posted June 9 10 minutes ago, Killian Keane said: Thats the 800 tender finished, hopefully God Almighty, you must have absolutely slaved over that! I'd have gone cross-eyed within the first 10 minutes of trying to draw it all out. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 9 Author Share Posted June 9 7 minutes ago, Horsetan said: God Almighty, you must have absolutely slaved over that! I'd have gone cross-eyed within the first 10 minutes of trying to draw it all out. Thankfully I lost the tattered remains of my sanity many years ago so this job had no effect whatsoever on me 4 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 20 Author Share Posted June 20 As I don't want any nasty surprises when I come to finally marry up the 800 body to its chassis, I'm currently running off a test print of the 90% finished model (Ive already done this with the tender body and that fits nicely), We're on the home straight now 16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Killian Keane Posted June 25 Author Popular Post Share Posted June 25 (edited) Bear in mind this is only an early test print, still rife with imperfections both digital and in terms of print settings, even the primer didn't go on perfectly, but it fits the chassis as intended Edited June 25 by Killian Keane more photos 25 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) Excellent! Wonderful to see her brought to life for the first time, she fits the chassis nicely Edited June 25 by GSR 800 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 Thankya, I just have to alter the front underside of the body slightly as the front body mounting is an M2.5 screw and nut, but getting the nut in is a significant challenge as is, apart from that it all lines up perfectly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo675 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 19 minutes ago, Killian Keane said: Thankya, I just have to alter the front underside of the body slightly as the front body mounting is an M2.5 screw and nut, but getting the nut in is a significant challenge as is, apart from that it all lines up perfectly Hi Killian, With regard to the nut and bolt problem, would it be possible to use a small self tapping screw into a suitable sized hole within a boss on the underside of the print ? The reason I ask is that this is a method I use in my cut and shuts if a body shell requires fixing to a chassis. The old Mainline Scots were fixed in this way and they kept hold pretty well as are quite a lot of the Lima models. Gibbo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 2 hours ago, gibbo675 said: Hi Killian, With regard to the nut and bolt problem, would it be possible to use a small self tapping screw into a suitable sized hole within a boss on the underside of the print ? The reason I ask is that this is a method I use in my cut and shuts if a body shell requires fixing to a chassis. The old Mainline Scots were fixed in this way and they kept hold pretty well as are quite a lot of the Lima models. Gibbo. Id do that but Id be a little concerned about the resin cracking, I'll see if this current version I have works and I'll revise if needed, it was just that I couldnt get my finger in from the narrow gap in the bottom of the boiler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobertRoche Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 2 hours ago, Killian Keane said: Id do that but Id be a little concerned about the resin cracking, I'll see if this current version I have works and I'll revise if needed, it was just that I couldnt get my finger in from the narrow gap in the bottom of the boiler Could you design a slot in the print to hold the nut? While space is probably limited in this model, I have desinged prints to take rivnuts which I glue in place, and they act as a threaded insert for a bolt - might be an option. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERW1 Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 How different are the Hornby chassis for the Royal Scot and Patriot? I ask as I have a Patriot and would happily buy a print of this if I were able to fit it to said chassis with minimal modifications. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 (edited) On 26/6/2024 at 1:05 AM, RobertRoche said: Could you design a slot in the print to hold the nut? While space is probably limited in this model, I have desinged prints to take rivnuts which I glue in place, and they act as a threaded insert for a bolt - might be an option. Ive put a hexagonal hole in the base of the smokebox to hold the nut, its just a question of getting it in there thats the problem, what I'll probably do is extend the slot to the back of the smokebox so the nut can be slid in from behind, and then I'll put a top on this hole so the nut wont be lifted when the screw comes in from underneath 1 hour ago, LNERW1 said: How different are the Hornby chassis for the Royal Scot and Patriot? I ask as I have a Patriot and would happily buy a print of this if I were able to fit it to said chassis with minimal modifications. Ive just tried a Patriot chassis under the test print, the answer is 'surprisingly well' but I'll have to be altering the cab floor area slightly for that, so itll be a separate version for each chassis, the tender is another story however, the patriot one is too short by 5-6mm so ideally you'd have to get hold of a secondhand royal scot one Edited June 28 by Killian Keane 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Metrovik Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 Any news on the WLWR loco? The 800s are far too big for my little branchline. Although it is looking VERY good. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 84C Posted June 28 Share Posted June 28 I'm looking at an Airfix Scot with the detail removed and a Southeastern Finecast etched chassis+ wheels and motor. Killian you beat me to it!! What do I do now? decision's ,decisions! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted June 28 Author Share Posted June 28 1 hour ago, Metrovik said: Any news on the WLWR loco? The 800s are far too big for my little branchline. Although it is looking VERY good. Not since the last photo of it, the 800 is the priority currently as its on commission, but when thats finished (soon) I expect to be able to do more work on that, can't wait to have one in my hands as they're much more the right period and the right region for me 10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted July 5 Author Share Posted July 5 'Nono I'm not the type of person to get distracted at all, why do you ask?' 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted July 17 Author Share Posted July 17 Mechanical lubricator detail, 800 class imminent 13 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Cab detail progress, still a work in progress but the last thing to do on the 800 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo675 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Hi Killian, I note with interest that you have modelled the rear of the fire box with the doorplate radius patches in place. When the locomotives were new these would not have been in place as they are repairs due to caustic stress grooves due to the flexing of the plate in the mid point of the radius of the door plate flanges. When the locomotives were in service was the boiler plate uncovered as shown ? If it was not lagged and sheeted those locomotives would have had roasting hot cabs especially in summer. Perhaps as preserved the lagging was removed as it may have been asbestos and the sheeting not replaced due to poor condition. Gibbo. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted August 3 Author Share Posted August 3 Hi Gibbo, have you any reference photos of what the cab interior would have looked like in service? Regards 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo675 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Hi Folks, I haven't got any photographs of the cabs of the 800 class locomotives, I only commented for I used to work on steam Locomotives at Riley & Son's in Bury for almost 20 years and as such I'm familiar with steam locomotives and how they are constructed. I know about doorplate patches as I used to either fit them or cut them out and weld new sections into place, sometime the whole door plate would be changed out depending upon condition and the budget of the customer. Gibbo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 On 25/6/2024 at 4:30 PM, Killian Keane said: What the Hell is the monster skulking in the background??? 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, gibbo675 said: Hi Folks, I haven't got any photographs of the cabs of the 800 class locomotives, I only commented for I used to work on steam Locomotives at Riley & Son's in Bury for almost 20 years and as such I'm familiar with steam locomotives and how they are constructed. I know about doorplate patches as I used to either fit them or cut them out and weld new sections into place, sometime the whole door plate would be changed out depending upon condition and the budget of the customer. Gibbo. 800 in UFTM. I forgot where I read it, but an account of a cab ride of a UK visitor in steam days there was a mention that it was Irish practice to leave the backplate unlagged. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 500 class cab 44 minutes ago, minister_for_hardship said: 800 in UFTM. I forgot where I read it, but an account of a cab ride of a UK visitor in steam days there was a mention that it was Irish practice to leave the backplate unlagged. Someone's after nicking the right handle wheel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, minister_for_hardship said: 800 in UFTM. I forgot where I read it, but an account of a cab ride of a UK visitor in steam days there was a mention that it was Irish practice to leave the backplate unlagged. "A Decade of Steam" on CIE in the Fifties" Donaldson,O'Neill,Mc Donnell published RPSI early 70s William McDonnell operating manager Cork notes "The cab was big and roomy but even so rather warm,-one wonders that, in such a well finished engine, the faceplate was not lagged" . I don't recall seeing a lagged faceplate on a preserved steam loco (at least narrow gauge) in the UK 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 2 hours ago, GSR 800 said: 500 class cab Someone's after nicking the right handle wheel Wonder if it was souvenired/robbed while sat at Thurles, Inchicore or Cultra? From what I remember of a visit to Cultra in the 90s, some signalling displays were easily accessible and presumably damaged by the public and the kids were using Blanche as a climbing frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 minutes ago, minister_for_hardship said: Wonder if it was souvenired/robbed while sat at Thurles, Inchicore or Cultra? From what I remember of a visit to Cultra in the 90s, some signalling displays were easily accessible and presumably damaged by the public and the kids were using Blanche as a climbing frame. It is possible it was one of the few parts of the locomotive taken off as scrapping began before sense prevailed. Her cab side windows and the brass frames disappeared and reappeared a few times on her. When in storage in Thurles in 1960, she had them. By 61 they were gone. She was still without when end to end with Macha in Inchicore in 63. She was returned to full order when sent up north, as seen when she was in storage at Adelaide in 64. Possible they were removed to prevent any sticky hands from getting a hold of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 84C Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 I also read that piece about unlagged backheads on GSR engines. I believe that amongst the last unlagged ones on BR were the ex LNW Super D's no experience of them! All that I went on were lagged. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gibbo675 Posted August 4 Share Posted August 4 Hi Folks, It is my guess that on the majority of British locomotives as cabs became more commodious, boilers became larger and higher boiler pressures higher and therefore greater then the lagging of the doorplate became the norm. I do know that some North American railways removed lagging of the door plates in winter to keep the cabs warm, however the winter weather in parts of the USA and Canada is somewhat colder than Britain and Ireland. Gibbo. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Killian Keane Posted August 9 Author Share Posted August 9 On 3/8/2024 at 3:05 PM, DJ Dangerous said: What the Hell is the monster skulking in the background??? Shes a senior platelayer on the garden line! 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 16 hours ago, Killian Keane said: Shes a senior platelayer on the garden line! Cats and models, a recipe for success! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 2 hours ago, DJ Dangerous said: Cats and models, a recipe for success! An effective marketing strategy perhaps.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 2 minutes ago, GSR 800 said: An effective marketing strategy perhaps.. Which is marketing which, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GSR 800 Posted August 10 Share Posted August 10 27 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Which is marketing which, though? 00 gauge 3d printed 800 class (cat not included) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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