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None to show since the last update Im afraid, I was rather tied up over Christmas, a lot of commission jobs on too, as soon as work quietens down a bit and I get a free moment I'll be right back on that project

 

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11 minutes ago, Horsetan said:

One thing I forgot to ask about 3D printing generally: what happens to all the leftover waste sprue? Can it be recycled?

Unfortunately no it cant be reused in resin printing, it gets thrown out

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Think of it more like the chippings that a sculptor chisels off a block of stone to produce a work of art.

There is not much you can do with the little bit of waste you get from FDM printing, but at least the PLA filament I am using for the track bases is plant based so we rest easy there🙂

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A bit of work done to Maedbh over the last week or so. The Royal Scot has many similarities to the 800s, but the 800s have a much longer front end and bogie, along with smaller bogie wheels. 

Changing to smaller wheels meant a large air space was left between the wheel and chassis. This became a bit of a knawling bug for me

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To sort the issue, I fabricated some fau frames from plasticard, painted them black, then applied them to the sides 

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I then karate chopped the bogie and placed a plasticard spacer to increase its length.

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I think this improves the overall appearance of the front end considerably.

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Maedbh has gotten a bit of weathering. There's not a great many photos of Maedbh in colour during her working life in CIE. The vast majority I've seen are taken after she was earmarked for preservation and received a fresh coat of paint. It's unlikely she did almost any work after 1958.

There's two colour photos of her at work in later years. One is of her at Limerick Junction in 1955, the other at Thurles hauling a train of horsebox vans. These show her relatively clean but with some black grime in certain areas. In their earlier years they were kept almost spotlessly clean, but I intend to model the end of steam. Macha was utterly filthy toward the end.

For reference I also looked primarily at the VS class in the 60s. Still kept quite clean, but far from spotless. The domes and corners of the belpaire firebox were almost always blackened!

A mix of black and umber wash was used, with excess removed using a cotton bud.

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Terrific job. Subtle but effective. For a lot of my own work now all I do is a MiG dark wash with a few powders. Seems to do just enough. Might you consider a soupçon of dark powder on the smokebox? 

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20 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Terrific job. Subtle but effective. For a lot of my own work now all I do is a MiG dark wash with a few powders. Seems to do just enough. Might you consider a soupçon of dark powder on the smokebox? 

Many thanks. Funny enough for Macha's last tour they had the smokebox shining! It has a bit of grime on top nonetheless, don't wish to overdo it.

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Fair enough Harry. Have had a similar inner monologue myself when finishing the PP last week. Some pics show a gleaming smokebox, others don’t! You can certainly take pride in her 

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22 minutes ago, Galteemore said:

Fair enough Harry. Have had a similar inner monologue myself when finishing the PP last week. Some pics show a gleaming smokebox, others don’t! You can certainly take pride in her 

It's one of those things I consider myself, whether to go matt or more satin for the smokebox. Usually it's more matted than the rest, but locos being cleaned, especially with oily rags, would show some shine. I've given a bit of matting at the top for soot around the chimney.

Recently I've seen a br shed layout with locomotives kept glossy clean, but with smokeboxes matted and almost grey! 

I note modern cleaning practices at Connolly, which focus on keeping the "front" of the locomotive/railcar clean. The rest is less of a concern!

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On 22/4/2025 at 9:24 PM, GSR 800 said:

Maedbh has gotten a bit of weathering. There's not a great many photos of Maedbh in colour during her working life in CIE. The vast majority I've seen are taken after she was earmarked for preservation and received a fresh coat of paint. It's unlikely she did almost any work after 1958.

There's two colour photos of her at work in later years. One is of her at Limerick Junction in 1955, the other at Thurles hauling a train of horsebox vans. These show her relatively clean but with some black grime in certain areas. In their earlier years they were kept almost spotlessly clean, but I intend to model the end of steam. Macha was utterly filthy toward the end.

For reference I also looked primarily at the VS class in the 60s. Still kept quite clean, but far from spotless. The domes and corners of the belpaire firebox were almost always blackened!

A mix of black and umber wash was used, with excess removed using a cotton bud.

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That is a truly magnificent model, finished perfectly!

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13 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

Dare we ask if a 400 class is likely to follow?

It would be significantly more modern then Im personally interested in , but if there is a viable proprietary chassis and there would be enough sales I wouldnt say no

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5 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

It would be significantly more modern then Im personally interested in , but if there is a viable proprietary chassis and there would be enough sales I wouldnt say no

I meant the GSWR 4.6.0........

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6 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

I meant the GSWR 4.6.0........

So did I! practically came out yesterday at 109 years of age

Though if youd ave asked me I'd have thought they were built about 10 years later than they actually were off the top of my head

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2 minutes ago, jhb171achill said:

I meant the GSWR 4.6.0........

I think anything post-1914 is modern!

I've considered commissioning 400s or 500s, but I'm sure Killian hopes I will start looking towards something like the old MGWR Grendon engine instead! 

With the Woolwich smokebox door complete, the MGWR A class is now next in line. 

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, GSR 800 said:

I think anything post-1914 is modern!

I've considered commissioning 400s or 500s, but I'm sure Killian hopes I will start looking towards something like the old MGWR Grendon engine instead! 

With the Woolwich smokebox door complete, the MGWR A class is now next in line. 

 

 

 

Ive legitimately had a request for Dublin and Kingstown coaches recently so that shows you the mental space Im in  lol

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Just now, Killian Keane said:

Ive legitimately had a request for Dublin and Kingstown coaches recently so that shows you the mental space Im in  lol

That raises an interesting question of track gauge! 

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13 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

Ive legitimately had a request for Dublin and Kingstown coaches recently so that shows you the mental space Im in  lol

It is truly fascinating that many of our generation of modellers have turned toward a much earlier period to model after.

In many ways it makes sense, locomotives and rolling stock are smaller, making layout building somewhat more manageable. Many very obscure prototypes with all the elegance of victorian and edwardian design, and in some cases absolutely no elegance whatsoever!

I must confess I'm very partial indeed to the GNR Park J class 4-4-0s and JS singles of 1885, some of the most handsome locomotives to have ever run in this country.

 

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1 hour ago, GSR 800 said:

It is truly fascinating that many of our generation of modellers have turned toward a much earlier period to model after.

In many ways it makes sense, locomotives and rolling stock are smaller, making layout building somewhat more manageable. Many very obscure prototypes with all the elegance of victorian and edwardian design, and in some cases absolutely no elegance whatsoever!

I must confess I'm very partial indeed to the GNR Park J class 4-4-0s and JS singles of 1885, some of the most handsome locomotives to have ever run in this country.

 

Infairness. Modern stations and stock don’t allow much for variety. For instance how many places had large and interesting layouts for them not to even have a loop in 2025. Equally how many of those places are exclusively served by an ICR and not much else. Even now, the days of 2 car railcar formations is coming to and end in the short/medium term
 

the late 50s-early 60s is the best era. Change my mind 👀😁

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15 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said:

Infairness. Modern stations and stock don’t allow much for variety. For instance how many places had large and interesting layouts for them not to even have a loop in 2025. Equally how many of those places are exclusively served by an ICR and not much else. Even now, the days of 2 car railcar formations is coming to and end in the short/medium term
 

the late 50s-early 60s is the best era. Change my mind 👀😁

Certainly the modern era is horrendously boring and sterile. For a bit of interest, you'd need a dcc sound decoder of some yahoo shouting abuse at security guards before buggering off on a scooter with the gear.

My interest is early 1950s CIE. Dieselisation is already making inroads through the AEC railcars, but steam still dominates, with the Enterprise connecting Cork, Dublin, and Belfast hauled by the apogees of CIE and GNRI steam. Within a few years, it would all be gone forever.

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