Brass etches for Mol's GSWR 50ft GSWR third - ORDERING NOW!

[jhb171achill]

We will all have seen Mol_PMB's truly outstanding brass etch model of a GSWR third, similar to Downpatrick's 836, on a separate thread.

This etch is now available to purchase.

I believe Paul (Mol) is finalising the assembly instructions as we speak.

Purchase is from the ETCH MANUFACTURER, not Paul. 

I have ordered two, but it occurs to me that if anyone else in the greater Belfast or Dublin area wants one, we can combine orders to reduce the doubtless ridiculous postage charges per kit.

If anyone is interested in getting one of these, please ping me privately or at jhb171@gmail.com and I will include yours in the order.

Edited Friday at 19:17 by jhb171achill

[jhb171achill]

Order placed. 

[Colin R]

Just what is the liver for 836? It looks a bit like the Great Western Railway from the UK; it might be a while before I can afford one or two of these, having just purchased some stuff from Japan 

[GSWR 90]

This is what 836 currently looks like

 

 

[jhb171achill]

1 hour ago, Colin R said:

Just what is the liver for 836? It looks a bit like the Great Western Railway from the UK; it might be a while before I can afford one or two of these, having just purchased some stuff from Japan 

The livery on it now is GSWR, which is “crimson lake”, in reality an extremely dark brownish red, and off-white upper panels (which it may or may not have carried; carriages of that type were more often (lined) crimson lake all over, with the white mostly reserved for main line stock. 

GWR in Britain was mid brown and cream. Lining was completely different too. 

[Mol_PMB]

A summary of the liveries carried by some or all of this class are as follows (thanks to JB for the basis of this).

1. All-over dark "lake" (an extremely dark brownish red) with GSWR markings 1902-25

2. For any used on main lines after 1906, same with white upper panels. This is the livery 836 is preserved in. Being only a few years old in 1906, they were front line stock and it's likely that some of them received this scheme when repainted.

3. All-over dark lake but with GSR markings, 1925-early 30s.

4. Some of these did receive the short-lived GSR "main line" livery of chocolate brown and cream (late 1920s to mid 30s) - there is photographic evidence.

5. Standard GSR all-over maroon, same as LMS maroon in Britain (and for that matter NCC & BCDR here). 

6. From around 1946, CIE dark green with elaborate lining, snails and 3 digits on the doors

7. From around 1951, CIE plain dark green with no lining, snails or class digits

8. From 1952, the tea cars used with railcars had CIE plain dark green with a single thin EdN waist line. No snails or class digits.

9. From 1954, CIE brilliant green with a single thin EdN waist line. No snails or class digits.

10. From 1956, CIE brilliant green with a single thin EdN waist line and 2 digits on the doors. No snails.

11. From 1959, some may have received snails on a livery similar to 10, but I haven't yet found a photo like this. 

I have not yet found a photo of any in 'black and tan'. It's possible; some other carriages of a similar era and shape did receive that livery.

There were also some more liveries once they were withdrawn from passenger service:

837 was converted into a camping coach no.8 and was painted in a bright red and white/cream livery. Later it became departmental 530A and was painted red oxide (including ends), and later again dark red (including ends).

836 was also subsequently in departmental use (463A). Initially repainted in dark green, it was later very dark grey with red oxide ends.  

835 became departmental 540A and may have had had another different livery but I'm not sure what it was.