StevieB Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Has anyone tried using the Lima/Hornby GWR railcar as the basis of a model of the much loved and missed AEC railcars? I don't mean for the body but rather the mechanical side. In this respect the Irish railcars were surely derived from the GWR ones. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Something like http://silverfoxmodels.co.uk/nir-ir-ie-2600-class-railcar-aecpark-royal/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33lima Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Contemplated this back in the 1990s but I don't think there's a lot to be gained. The bogies aren't the same I believe and a set of valances isn't a big help (easy to reproduce in plasticard and not needed at all for some periods). Might as well choose any other DMU chassis, especially if the length is about right. I ended up making bodyshells from thicker plasticard bulkheads and thinner plasticard sides, epoxied to MJT aluminium roofs, with a Tri-ang motor bogie for the UTA set and a Black Beetle for the GNR(I) one. These days there are obviously other options for the power train. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blaine Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Something like http://silverfoxmodels.co.uk/nir-ir-ie-2600-class-railcar-aecpark-royal/ Pass me a bucket - thats a BR Cravens 105 painted up, 33Limas one actually looks like an AEC set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 The Silverfox one.... The GNR version is entirely the wrong colour too, and the numerals and crests are also out of proportion and the wrong font.... A little research would have helped, whether it was an accurate model or an approximation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevieB Posted November 16, 2013 Author Share Posted November 16, 2013 I could be wrong but I suspect that Silver Fox were trying to find a use for their Cravens dmu kit following the arrival of the Bachmann rtr version. Stephen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hunslet 102 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 The Silverfox one.... The GNR version is entirely the wrong colour too, and the numerals and crests are also out of proportion and the wrong font.... A little research would have helped, whether it was an accurate model or an approximation. And at £215 for the pleasure of a 3 car set,the mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Meant to add, I very much like 33lima's models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Meant to add, I very much like 33lima's models. Me too, the GNR AEC is gorgeous. Great paint job of a class livery. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie10646 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Sneer, sneer, it's behind me in the showcase!!!! 33lima built it for me over ten years ago, you should see the BUT set he did for me....... And then there were the Mahogany coaches ......... I'm sure I put photos up on the site years ago? Ivor, I have some wagons for you? Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie10646 Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Ah, found the photos on the Mac, so here they are - This shows the AEC set with the two end cars of the BUT 9which is four cars, the intermediates being an open and a restaurant car. And "Full Frontal"!!!!! The full AEC set. The bad news is that the AEC has never turned a wheel, but has languished in the showcase, as the layout never got started! However, the BUT set has lapped David White's "Old Blarney a few times at Perth two years ago. Finally, a Class G1 panelled mahogany coach - 33lima got the mahogany quite brilliantly, I thought? Hope you like them - I certainly do! Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunluce Castle Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 They look absolutely beautiful, a real credit to the builder. I could look at those photos all day, thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 16, 2013 Share Posted November 16, 2013 Top class stuff, Leslie - and yes, the mahogany does look the business all right! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33lima Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Thanks for posting Leslie, I hadn't taken any pics of the BUT set or the GN coaches before despatching them (in fact I had forgotten all about making the BUT set) so this is the first time I've seen them, since...when was it, about 1997? Would love to see pics of the other coaches too, how many were there, three or four, can't recall now, one was a kitchen car I think. There must be about two miles of plasticard strip in that lot! Still have your brass K15 unbuilt, give me a shout next time you're 'in country' and I'll drop it off! Edited November 17, 2013 by 33lima Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Train model Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Fantastic set lucky boy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 what is it about the AEC railcars thats so appealing? and i am raelly beginning to love the that livery! i wonder would Daddy Xmas brng me one if i was a good lad? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leslie10646 Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Seamus, I agree with you that the Oxford blue and cream looks just great - you even saw it behind steam, when the trailers were "mis-used". I told Ivor that I would run the intermediate cars behind steam and suggested he do me some flush-sided mahogany ones - which, bless him, he did - the panelled ones came later! Ivor, you did TWELVE in all - the catering vehicles were the restaurant car in the BUT set and the tea car in mahogany. I'll find more photos of the coaches (and put them in the correct thread!) - but I must get to church! Another problem with getting old is that you realise you have a lot more sins to ask forgiveness for! Like not running Ivor's stock a lot more! Never was Plasticard better or more skillfully used! Leslie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 17, 2013 Share Posted November 17, 2013 Leslie, your sins must be few; to own a collection like that strikes me as more akin to entry into heaven than hell........! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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