Guest hidden-agenda Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 http://www.etenders.gov.ie/search/show/search_view.aspx?ID=JUL366095 Looks like the end is nigh. Quote
BabyGM Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 ( That's a pity They were always my favourite train with a 201 at the front Quote
gm171 kk Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 What? A competition to destroy our beloved mk3s? Best coaches on the Irish rail network by far. Quote
David Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 It's a scandal. Apart from the fact that the coaches are perfectly good they are paying a contractor to take away 2700 tons of scrap steel to make a fortune out of! Quote
201bhoy Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 (That's a pity They were always my favourite train with a 201 at the front Oh yes!!!!!!!!! Like your thinking always my favourite too. Quote
heirflick Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 another piece of railway history going....crying shame. is there any of them marked for preservation? Quote
201bhoy Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 another piece of railway history going....crying shame. is there any of them marked for preservation? I wouldn't think so... it's not like they were brought in that long ago, unlike the cravens or mk2s Quote
heirflick Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 I wouldn't think so... it's not like they were brought in that long ago, unlike the cravens or mk2s surly irish rail will keep one at inchicore? Quote
Warbonnet Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 We'd be lucky if they kept inchicore at this stage Seamus. They'll all be turned to razor blades. And as for Mark IIIs and 201s being a dream combo? You're almost there, just swap the soulless overweight brick for an 071 and you're there! Quote
201bhoy Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 We'd be lucky if they kept inchicore at this stage Seamus. They'll all be turned to razor blades. And as for Mark IIIs and 201s being a dream combo? You're almost there, just swap the soulless overweight brick for an 071 and you're there! Hey! The 201s do have soul! The 071s look better with the mk2s and that's what I'll be mainly putting then with on my layout Quote
201bhoy Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 They're the locos I grew up with! Well actually, 121s, 141s, 071s and 201s all used to pass quite frequently until the demise of Adelaide freight yard, but I always liked the 201s best Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 And as for Mark IIIs and 201s being a dream combo? You're almost there, just swap the soulless overweight brick for an 071 and you're there! Agreed Fran the 071 the best Diesel loco to run on Irish rails Quote
BabyGM Posted July 23, 2012 Posted July 23, 2012 Agreed the 071's were probably the best train that will ever be on Irish rails you'll never beat the sound that I hear a few times a day of an 071 coming through with a rake of Tara's Quote
josefstadt Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 Ah no. Give me the roar of a B201 climbing the bank from Dún Laoghaire to Dalkey in notch 8 with a heavy suburban train. Quote
Mayner Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 Ah no. Give me the roar of a B201 climbing the bank from Dún Laoghaire to Dalkey in notch 8 with a heavy suburban train. Its funny fast forward to 30 years to present day Auckland rebuilt 1st generation GM export units being worked to death on Push Pull suburban trains. Quote
Guest hidden-agenda Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 http://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2056708747 Some interesting comments on this site regarding mk3s and railcars. Quote
Warbonnet Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 Looks like they could be a bit desperate for cash http://www.rte.ie/news/2012/0724/cie-to-be-allocated-36m-immediately-for-services-business.html Quote
Shinkansen Posted July 24, 2012 Posted July 24, 2012 t's disapointing news but inevitable. The Mk3 would easily be good enough for many years more service but are now surplus to requirments. Just like the 201's they are yet another under utilised asset, never realising it's full potential due to a lack of focus on IE's part, a fascination for going off buying bespoke toys, and the times we are currently living in. I do wonder why they have been kept in storage for so many years after withdrawl from service. I am only guessing that IE had something else in mind for the Mk3s (selling them off or whatever) and those plans never came to pass. Some would blame the introduction of railcars for their demise. The ease of swiching direction, cheaper running costs, etc... would probably made it happen eventually anyway. I actually quite like the 22Ks and find them far supirior to alot of the old coaching stock that had been running up until recent years. That said, it's the waste of it all and the lack of making the most of what IE have that gets me. You only have to look at Mayners video above to see what can be done with refurbished stock. 30 years old they may be but still working and providing a service. Nothing's gonna happen now so it's all academic.... But I do hope there will be a few kept for preservation, they are still part of Irelands transport heritage. OK rant over Tom Quote
Mayner Posted July 25, 2012 Posted July 25, 2012 IE had to be seen to be getting the best return possible for the MK3s before disposing of them for scrap. I think IE invited submissions of interest before they were withdrawn and more earlier this year. It may have been a bit like the West Clare Diesels the asking price was too low. Quote
irishtrains2730 Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 i suppose where it says" to dispose of in the required manner" means they've got to be scrapped and not sold to collectors etc! Quote
201bhoy Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Anyone have room for a mkIII in their garden? I'll take on and build my layout in it! It'll make a nice alternative to a man shed Quote
snapper Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 Anybody got the cash to buy one, with purchase and transport costs I don’t think you would see much change out of 15k Quote
snapper Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 No idea but I doubt it. I do remember hearing something about one PP and a control car going to moyasta. Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 I Can't understand why the RPSI won't take a rake for there will come a day when 201's and 071's will be preserved and will need something nice to pull behind them besides those God awful green Mk's Quote
201bhoy Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 They should have taken a rake ages ago. I think they such a bad condition now that it would be very hard to restore them Quote
snapper Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 (edited) I Can't understand why the RPSI won't take a rake for there will come a day when 201's and 071's will be preserved and will need something nice to pull behind them besides those God awful green Mk's Well there are a couple of reasons, they are air braked meaning the only thing that could pull them are a 141, the is not the space or man power to take on another running set, they have air-conditioning that does not like periods of non use, they need overhaul work and they cost money to buy. They should have taken a rake ages ago. I think they such a bad condition now that it would be very hard to restore them They needed major work when they were withdrawn. Edited July 27, 2012 by snapper Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 they are air braked meaning the only thing that could pull them are a 141, That's why I said they would be a nice addition to the 201's and 071's when they are withdrawn Quote
heirflick Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 They should have taken a rake ages ago. I think they such a bad condition now that it would be very hard to restore them there is still a few decent looking ones in storage in the north wall freight depot-including a push pull. dont know about the inside though! Quote
Broithe Posted July 27, 2012 Posted July 27, 2012 My favourite - I do hope at least one can be saved. Quote
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