201bhoy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 What do yous think? I'm getting the track the day after tomorrow and I made a last minute change to the design because I thought the station was too boring with only one platform, and there wouldn't be room for more than one train on All-Ireland days where specials are needed! So I put a bay platform there too, as Josefstadt suggested. It will be for push-pull trains, dmus, stabled engines or short cravens trains with a 141 or 181 at the front Quote
BosKonay Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 I like it! My only concern is the width - will the layout be free standing in the middle of the room? The bay looks long enough to happily take a 141, 2 cravens and a gen van, will be nice (or a 2 car dmu, etc) Inbound trains will have to enter the station on the wrong road, maybe look at putting the crossover at the top into the curve at the station? Quote
201bhoy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 I like it! My only concern is the width - will the layout be free standing in the middle of the room? The bay looks long enough to happily take a 141, 2 cravens and a gen van, will be nice (or a 2 car dmu, etc) Inbound trains will have to enter the station on the wrong road, maybe look at putting the crossover at the top into the curve at the station? I have tried that, but it's so hard to have a crossover on a curve! And yep, the bay will be taking the likes of that. I'm happy I put it in, as the station was a bit boring without it In time, I'll get some silverfox PPs and have a 201 or more likely a 121 behind I still have so much stock to get! On the Christmas list is a NCC powercab and a 201 sound decoder! Quote
201bhoy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 And btw, do you mean free-standing by on the floor? Yes, it will be on the floor to begin with. I think I'll lay it down on two boards to begin with, one 6 x 4 and one 2 x 4, as I'm pretty sure I can't fit an 8 x 4 board upstairs in one piece! Quote
BosKonay Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Yep, I mean that you will have access to all sides (as humans can't reach across 4 feet to get to derailed stock, etc ) Quote
201bhoy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 oh yeah don't worry I'll have access to all sides Quote
BosKonay Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Looks good tho - a nice scenic break diagonally across the tracks on the left and it would really look well! Quote
201bhoy Posted June 20, 2012 Author Posted June 20, 2012 Yep, that's what I have planned - a scenery break just after the headshunt in the freight yard in the form of a tunnel or a road bridge Quote
josefstadt Posted June 21, 2012 Posted June 21, 2012 Plan is looking good. Like the addition of the bay platform:tumbsup: - it will give you a bit of operational flexability. A few suggestions. Like BosKonay I think you should try moving the crossover from the top to somewhere on the curve nearer the station. You could use Peco ST-244 and ST-245 curved turnouts, with a short section of track (either ST-203 or ST-227) between them to maintain the track separation. Check with your track supplier as the Peco Catologue isn't clear which to use. Also, You would need a crossover for freight trains exiting the yard to gain the line towards the fiddle yard. If you went for a single track main line this would avoid this problem. Your second track, the inside curve, could be shortened to before the backscene and become the headshunt and your headshunt would be free to be used as another siding - e.g. for oil or timber. You could also fit in an extra siding between the loop and the gantry siding by replacing the short straight with a right-hand turnout. This could be used for freight normally or for stabling additional passenger stock on 'All Ireland' days. If you curved the cement tracks slightly at their ends and left a clear 1 foot wide area for the fiddleyard then you could get 4 tracks in. I have marked these suggestions up in red on the diagram with the backscene in green. Hope this is of some assistance. Quote
201bhoy Posted June 21, 2012 Author Posted June 21, 2012 Plan is looking good. Like the addition of the bay platform:tumbsup: - it will give you a bit of operational flexability. A few suggestions. Like BosKonay I think you should try moving the crossover from the top to somewhere on the curve nearer the station. You could use Peco ST-244 and ST-245 curved turnouts, with a short section of track (either ST-203 or ST-227) between them to maintain the track separation. Check with your track supplier as the Peco Catologue isn't clear which to use. Also, You would need a crossover for freight trains exiting the yard to gain the line towards the fiddle yard. If you went for a single track main line this would avoid this problem. Your second track, the inside curve, could be shortened to before the backscene and become the headshunt and your headshunt would be free to be used as another siding - e.g. for oil or timber. You could also fit in an extra siding between the loop and the gantry siding by replacing the short straight with a right-hand turnout. This could be used for freight normally or for stabling additional passenger stock on 'All Ireland' days. If you curved the cement tracks slightly at their ends and left a clear 1 foot wide area for the fiddleyard then you could get 4 tracks in. I have marked these suggestions up in red on the diagram with the backscene in green. [ATTACH=CONFIG]1270[/ATTACH] Hope this is of some assistance. It definitely was! Here's the edited plan. The fiddle yard only has one track becasue this is what I'm planning to get tomorrow and I can't afford any more points, but don't worry, it'll have 4 lines! Quote
josefstadt Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 As Mr Burns would say 'Excellent'!! Have loads of fun building the layout and even more fun operating it. Look forward to seeing updates (plenty of pics please) as you go along. Quote
BosKonay Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 Lovely - loads of operating interest!! Pictures every step of the way please!! Quote
201bhoy Posted June 22, 2012 Author Posted June 22, 2012 Cheers lads! One depressing thing is that unlike you, Boskonay, i've barely got any Irish stock. I have to get a full rake of mk3s, mk2 generator van and restaurant coach, at least one more 201, another 141, obviously an 071 and a 121 when they come out, AND all the freight stock! Quote
201bhoy Posted June 22, 2012 Author Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) Unfortunately I'm waiting on a delivery of some peco points and some track cutters, so progress won't properly start until 13th July when I get back from holiday. Edited June 23, 2012 by 201bhoy Quote
Retro Herbie Posted June 22, 2012 Posted June 22, 2012 (edited) I'll not sell your stuff before you get back! Enjoy the hols Edited June 23, 2012 by Retro Herbie Quote
Dave Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 That should be a cracking layout when finished, well planned look forward to seeing it progress Quote
201bhoy Posted June 29, 2012 Author Posted June 29, 2012 Thanks Dave! Work will begin within the next two weeks, when I get back from holiday Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Thanks Dave! Work will begin within the next two weeks, when I get back from holiday Don't forget to send us all a postcard Quote
201bhoy Posted June 30, 2012 Author Posted June 30, 2012 Don't forget to send us all a postcard Might save it for Nice when there'll be better trains Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 We don't want a post card of trains mate we want girls on the beach:x Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Well Nice has the better girls too No excuses then Quote
201bhoy Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 Roughly how many cement bubbles do you think I could fit into the top two sidings? Quote
201bhoy Posted July 2, 2012 Author Posted July 2, 2012 The longer one is 3ft exactly, the smaller one is about 2.4? Quote
RedRich Posted July 3, 2012 Posted July 3, 2012 The longer one is 3ft exactly, the smaller one is about 2.4? Vincent given that a cement bubble model would be roughly 100mm over buffers, and depending on your choice of couplings I would say 8 wagons in the longer siding would be your limit. Rich, Quote
201bhoy Posted July 3, 2012 Author Posted July 3, 2012 Good, that's alright I probably won't be getting many anyway as they're so expensive/time-consuming Quote
201bhoy Posted July 16, 2012 Author Posted July 16, 2012 Right! Track and baseboard bought, so work can commence! One thing though, what do you trim the edges of the peco streamline sleepers with? I just realised that they don't fir with the points... Quote
BosKonay Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 I use a small snips, but any similar snips will do the job. Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Sharpe blade (Stanley knife or scalpel) gives you a nice sharp straight cut. Quote
irishthump Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 Sharpe blade (Stanley knife or scalpel) gives you a nice sharp straight cut. I agree Anthony, if you use a snips it's easy to pop the sleepers away from the track. Quote
Broithe Posted July 16, 2012 Posted July 16, 2012 (edited) Olfa used to make a 'Panel Cutter', a bit like a chisel with an adjustable depth-stop - http://www.mediamixhobby.com.sg/shop/olfapnc1.html - handy in these sorts of circumstances - I got one at a boot sale, but I've never seen another. Edited July 16, 2012 by Broithe Quote
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