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no, just means your using .lead. in solder wire or flux,

translation of above, i am hot and sweaty in the attic corners with the soldering iron full on, coughing due to fumes in corners, even with a wee fan on, splutter splutter goes the solder, troll translation, wayside has virus, turn off iron and go to bed. Dcc translation, if incorrect signal from track, it may not be from an isolated, track, or the signal may be too week, some decoders make engines cough and shudder as they slow down.

if i dont get c-19 virus, i may still self isolate so that i get at least 2 weeks isolation to finish my layout wiring.. as i write i have a cough cough, splutter splutter, .and ..'i'm hot and sweaty,' --- "In that case, Wayside, isnt it time you turned off the soldering Iron!"

update : i just read, "there is no minimum distance between bus wires; they can even be twisted. The frequency of the DCC signal is not high enough to cause cross-talk between the wires".. . yet , elsewhere from trusted Dcc sources , it says separated bus wires cause interferes with radio, being a different signal, and if space the wires from track to dr4088, thats not recommended either, there is no consistency in whats online. but i will keep on searching for the 'g'rail.

Dear jhb171achill i forgot to say thanks for the 'impressive' comment. so thanks, you have always responded to my questions and posts, and i consider you a real gent and a friend on IRM, David Holman also contributes to many posts including mine and his photos of models are amazing, i now gotcha re, fry-esque, model railway, woops sorry, i saw it years ago, and cant wait to see the new layout. sorry if i sounded off, i thought you ment fry as in car programs, whom i dont watch and know nothing other than 3rd hand news that i cant be bothered to listen too, see for years i asked a simple question, do wires from rail to dr4088 current detectors get twisted as is recommend for all buses. but never got any answer anywhere, on any forum. and still haven't, after above post, i hoped i would get answers but like fishing one must wait,,, i think i know the answer, but so much of what i thought i knew about trains, turned out false, yes i am a very frustrated , i just want confirmation, cos i work alone mainly on this layout, all the clubs are too far away, other than kids who run the trains , its mostly up to me., and as the layout is taking massive time resources, and i kick my self i dont have a proper space to work in, , and i actually feel overwhelmed by the task, but keep doing a little every day if i get free time. not being able to test cos all the power is off is really frustrating, .. thats due to lack of space in which to build, as tools are spread over tracks, so no power , blocks didnt help, cos the power has to go off everywhere at once to work over the tracks in such small space, its aroom i know i am lucky, but 4.5 x 3 is small.. theres enough to run trains with 4 people,just., 3 is better, ..... I know i did stuff wrong, but solving those problems is my joy. such as using washed playsand and pvc to ballast the layout, that works, provided its done well,, and wiring mostly over the layout boards on top of the layout as opposed to under, has benefits, as well as drawbacks. Having punched holes into old attic roofs, if this layout doesn't work, having ripped up the same layout that did work , i will have to really kick myself, while repaying the 2nd mortgage i took to pay for the trains.

These days i am a country bumkin, although born in dublin, n worked in bars till late teens, and consider my self having been very streetwise when younger, neither nosebleed nor fry-esque are terms i know, are they slang?, were they slung, was i slonged. if nose bleed relates to high altitude, really? i am suprised, fry-esque, i dont watch racist bigoted boy programs with car toys, if thats what you mean, so i couldnt say, i did have to ask what fry-esque meant, no one here knew. if you read closely you will see that my writing is carefully crafted to show up on search engines, the text is filled with blocks of words likely to be searched by googlers like I looking for further info on DCC block occupation. i even save my photos, often with have searchable names. I hope the issued raised spread some light, there is shortage of dcc stuff everywhere , but tonight that ends for DCC4EVERYONE by mark gurries and others has got it own platform and finally divorced itself from yahoo, who spy on everyone, and are blocking opensource generated emails, in Bill Fences, mick ro softys campaign to wipe out open free coding and open source projects such apachie open office, mozilla and linux. even though that mega company run their own servers on open source code, yet force their customers to use non open source code, Android is open source, Bill fences is not. good riddance to yahoo, i bet that the groups numbers double from 2.5 thousand in the next few months, as all of us who refuse to use mikrohard rubbish.. . will now log in which is what i will do now, see you on DCC4EVERYONE at https://groups.io/g/DCC4EVERYONE and IRM, both great spaces... last night i posted links to upto date DCC such as frpm james from DCCtrainautomation

DCC guru Mark Gurries has fully migrated the old famous forum from Yahoo to https://groups.io/g/DCC4EVERYONE quoting Mark Gurries, he wrote and posted the following today, "DCC4EVERYONE: General DCC discussion support group for all Model Railroaders covering all DCC brands. email DCC4EVERYONE@groups.io Hello This group is for all DCC enthusiast. There is no manufacture bias of any kind, by the owner or moderators. The list is international in nature. This list is about DCC and DCC products. Feel free to discus any maker of DCC products. Do not hesitate to post here. It is a friendly place, with a bunch of good people who are always willing to help out. There is no dumb questions here. We believe all the major manufactures have a place in providing their products to enthusiast. That different products fit different people and that there is no one best system for everyone, just a best system for you. Hello DCC4EVERYONE members, The migration of the DCC4EVERYONE support group from Yahoo to Groups.IO is now complete! The move was forced by Yahoo’s choice to eliminate files and photos storage and strip down features of the group. There was also Yahoo’s deteriorating track record of being able to providing timely message delivery to those who used email. Independent Groups.io was founded in direct response to Yahoo actions with the added goal of improving service by creating a more modern platform for us to communicate with. We have 2729 members that have been successfully migrated over including all of the posted messages, files and photos. I am now shutting down the original Yahoo group. This transfer has not come without an out of pocket cost of your group owner/moderator. A fee of $220 was paid to Groups IO to perform the migration. A 'Go Fund me' page has been setup with a $220 limit. If you also feel the material in the DCC4EVERYONE group was worth saving, and would like to help pay for this cost, here is the link... https://www.gofundme.com/f/dcc4everyone-group-migration-to-groupsio?utm_source=customer&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=p_cf+share-flow-1 If 10 people gave $10 each and 24 people gave $5 each, we will hit that goal and pay for the transfer fee." end of official statement.

My forth winter constructing the 4.5 x 3 attic layout has resulted in breaking up the power blocks into train detection or occupation blocks usually about 180 to 220 cm long, aiming to run rake sizes, circa 5 or 8 coaches and 14 to 22 wagons, which meant a re-design in parts, moving 3 turnouts so the occupation blocks, had space to fit trains. I have been getting quality support and up to date qualified advice from 3 main sources, James in Dcctrainautomation, his latest Jan 2020 uploads include fab pics and screen shots, (which for someone who spent most of the winter trying to figure out the writings, the pics saved my life.) i had a section of the overall wiring plan wrong, but found out just in time. see https://www.dcctrainautomation.co.uk/blog/itrain-and-dr5000-and-block-control.html as i hadnt started laying out cobalt ss point motors or switching. so i hadnt really started to learn about turnout motors, but i did need to understand the wiring in advance. so seeing James new uploads really helped. The Digikeijs support forum is growing fast, not only for the Digikeijs dr5000 command station but also for all accessories, and since i using dr4088Ln cs, i keep revisiting. to check i have it correct, pity its a difficult to navigate blog https://groups.io/g/Digikeijs iTrain computer control, is fun, easy yet complex, and the support forum is a laugh, since few speak english, so you sorta have to be careful what you say and where you place stuff , https://www.berros.eu/itrain/forum/ but the Uk DCC blogger, on the iTrain forum called 'Lian' is a star, he explains stuff like few can and is very committed, in print, drawing, photos and video, he chats with everyone stuck with Dcc train automation. the Itrain product web is https://www.berros.eu/en/itrain/ You dont need proprietary products, its all free in JMRI open software arendino and rasberry. as i knew nothing i bought the stuff, but its not click and go unless you know how. Screenshot shows lowest level finished and built but being rewired layout on Itrain screen. the bottom left end of track circles are links to the next tab, next screen shot, the 2nd and proposed third level, including space for 10 track standing yard, as yet unbuilt. Anyway, the layout on pc is now subdivided into more stations, to make the automation more interesting.. the real layout is undergoing serious re-wiring of many sections, I had to do this prior to hopefully installing turnout motors. and figured out, just in time, that if i had to make blocks long enough to fit trains in a /entre/ occupied-break/stop-break subdivides of the power sections. some more turnouts may have to move I started up again in November, lucky i had notes from last winter, and ya know, i starting to learn stuff, so unlike last winters total struggle, i was able to start wiring the 80 possible blocks with confidence, and deal with what ever appears due to unseen possibilities. Installing Dr4088Ln Cs Digikeijs loconet current sensors is easy, yet posses huge problems for a newbee. We are told to twist long run bus wires, about radio interference within wide spaced pairs of wire, how two wires together cause transfer of data and interference. ... a red light went up and those poor wee model workmen in orange dayglow went back into there box, halt all works The wiring is not what it says on the box, there can be a lot of wiring when using current sensors, luckily i now really enjoy wiring , a few years ago it was doing my head in. where does the negitive blue of blue and brown pair go, ? if not back with all the single feeds to track,,? Some blocks are 300cm long in total thats 16 wires running to 1, 2 or 3, sectioned power blocks. (making up a power block of 3 sub blocks or sections,) and that could be 16 individual block or 5 x 3 sensor blocks 15+1= 16 inputs on Dr4088lncs, thats a lot of wire, and no where on the internet does it say twisted or not from track to dr4088lncs.. yes it talks about twisted buses everywhere else... At as the common wire (-) is not returned to the dr4088lncs, then there are loads of places where I was running single long 1.5 wires and cursing the day I ever read about interference to misa's precious radio. i even started listening to internet modeltrain radio, to avoid interference, while doing hours of re-wiring i have to admit, this is highly unlike me, i am starting to act strange in relation to this train stuff and model rail radio. as i have no power connected, I have no way of testing, (you say , 'just turn on one section at a time') but the space is so small the works tools solder tracks wire and loads of other bits are all over the layout as i have no where else, so its wire the entire layout, clean up, then test section by section. screenshot shows level two and three and unfinished standing yard to store trains .. itrain Blocks. the blocks have to be considered and designed, first is an ,'Entre' section, its short, but long enough for a long loco without train to travel clear of points and send enough occupied signal with good track contact. the next section, which is called 'Slow down', 'Occupied' or 'Break', the length and speed value of train and length of track are used by Itrain software to calculate and run the loco smooth and slow, ready for the third and final block, the 'stop block', , Screenshot show close up of finished blocks. the dark red lozenge marks the sensor track, the white block in the track=the name of the block, blocks do not include turnouts only one of my stations lines has four sensors to represent a station in JMRI, which has different rules and controls. In Itrain stations also have different rules and controls. Block design the 'stop block is, usually placed before a signal, (signals are along way off on my layout ( but i will get one cheap signal to set up to let me know what to expect and keep the wiring plan flexible for signals in the long term ) .. the final block is the stop block, it also has to be long enough to allow the train to stop, esp' where you want it to stop, then you have to imagine the same block from the other direction if its bi-direction track route. so enter become stop and visa versa, many blocks just have one sensor other two, each gives different results. The software does the rest. well almost... the following pics are my first attemps, i am getting tidier as i progress each dr4088 instalation Generally 3 sensor sub sections on one block is used in stations, two for signals where the stop section is long out on the mainline. but many layout its seems can only fit two which is a common standard.. whatevr, theres alot of wires running 2 or 3 metres from each dr4088,, the negitive (-) track is unbroken in the block but isolated at each end usually next to turnouts, the + side of track is isolated into sections in the blocks at again at both ends of total block. each individual current sensed wire is brought to a choc block and a thinner wire connects to the dr4088lncs above pic is right way up, dr4088 is upside down , but it does not matter , this is the first in the loconet chain, beside the main board for dr5000 and Z21 next to laptop, below, setup to choc block while was waiting for dr4088 to arrive by post, which it did in rapid time, above, 1.5 brown + positive wire run from track sections back to dr4088 below, connection into each of 16 terminals, i need to improve my wiring and have no copper showing, but when i turn on the power these will all be disconnected, trying the tracks one at a time, so i will fix the problems then and label each wire. below, stuff all over the layout, the lima and hornby wagons are used to test tracks without loco attached, nor power on Since November i have advanced my knowledge somewhat, i have worked out how many boosters i will need and when and where i have to install them including which dr4088's go with which booster in the double isolated boostered power blocks, i have decide that my original plan of having all groups of turnouts on one booster is correct. the mainline will run mostly off command station built-in boosters, as that run of track is i hope least likely to have shorts circuits, I still dont understand why i dont need circuit breakers, but theres no rush. I received my first IRM wagons, 42's, ferts, plough, cements , taras and spoils. these are mostly still boxed, as are all my stock, until the track is fully functional, that could be a few years yet. but as spring arrives this farmer, hs to get back out so if i get some track and stock up and running this year, it will be a bonus. the kids are busy playing computer games so they have forgot about train for now,,as per comment above this post. thats the update on installing DCC block occupancy train detection, using current sensors on current sensors Dr4088Ln Cs Digikeijs via loconet . thanks for reading...

hi, whats still available for sale?, sorry i missed this post,

Sorry Mayner, didnt see you post until now, I agree that could well be Englands strike, But there are many many recorded strikes from Comer, welll into into the 20th century, and i agree the countryside is ideal for modelling, i have an original plan of Athy wolfhill yard lines, i posted a pic somehere in railwayanna on this site. and would be glad to make original available to any modeller, , As most comer coal was anthracite, i doubt if it was used in trains. Comer is 7km from me, and its fascinating seeing one of Ireland's industrial pasts rust away into the ground, as you walk farms there are fence posts made from cut rails, embankments with ash piles that grow unique floras and a few remaining old buildings, some renovated. including a house that looks so like a train station to the North east of comer towards carlow that i am told never had any trains.

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I was hoping for lenz type feedback decoders on your ESU sound decoders?, anyway, theres plenty of time so, for me to finish the block occupancy, all the turnout motors and the rest of my track work, I can wait as long as it takes for thats the story of my layout, with just two weeks off each winter to work on it, its all slow.

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its so trains, i had to share this poster, I believe the 1881 coal miners strikes inspired the pennsylvania coal strikes, which in part lead to the establishment of the Trade Union movement of America and else where, especial;ly as so many Irish from Castlecomer ended up working in pennsylvania before the coal strikes. I did a google search for 'castlecomer mine and quarry union.pdf' nice page, includes great photo of mine with rail track. indeed it looks much like my layout today, now thta i am rewiring the power blocks into occupancy block and installing current dectors and more. the poster is from a 1912 coal strike, as it seems there were many strikes.

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I need advice please. is it better to allow the software to stop the train, or install the short isolated sections at each end of occupation blocks what are the best lay out options for automation of occupation blocks, to slow loco down and then stop them...other than driving the train to a sudden stop, what choices are there other than choices below? I can use any range of sensors, even mixed types depending, cant find one that does everything, infr-red suits some places, so, until i decide, i think its best if i cut or make isolation gaps on both rails and not return a common -, neg bluewire, instead, each occupation block will be on its own power block for ease of fault finding, , as my turnout layout allows 14 longer sections of rail, without any turnouts, 5 x these are over 8 feet, long , and some shorter ones, but as the shorter are on d slower sections of my lines, slowing and stopping wont be so 'lurchful'l for my passangers and cargos. so it to the longer sections i address hte question, is it better to allow the software to stop the train, or install the short isolated sections at each end of occupation blocks in particular, in option 3 with pic is my drawing correct. I am sub dividing up DCC power blocks into 'sensored tracks' occupancy blocks, and non sensored power blocks, In 'sensored tracks' occupancy blocks -- i intend stopping trains in exact positions, from the web, i seem to have options, number 3 below, I saw on youtube but cant find the video again....its my preferred choice, 1. measure track measure all carriages and loco, enter data to software. (i will do this for rakes i wont often be breaking) but kids use the layout, and they like 'breaking trains' 2. visual judgement where i can see the tracks (short trains) 3. installing short isolated tracks at ends of occupation blocks, , as per attached drawing, (mixed freight, passenger lines, where train lengths will be dynamic based on cargos collected enroute, and most likely will vary on each journey see attachmnet, the red marks are both rails-gapped sections, the two short occupied gapped sensor'ed blocks are where the train stops at either end. the middle section will have speed limit, if the train is due to stop in block. I referred to https://wiki.rocrail.net/doku.php?id=sensors, A helpful page, where i realise i need to describe above in terms of.. note: Three Sensors, = system like my drawing With three sensors, enter, pre2in and in, the train decelerates to V_mid4) at enter and to V_min at pre2in. If one sets V_min quite low (practical value: 10 kph), then the brake setting of the locomotive does have a limited influence only. All locomotives will stop quickly after arriving at in. This leads to the very exact stopping point. The divergence lies within clearly less than 1 cm!. In addition, the pre2in can be in a way abused to allow shorter trains an earlier stopping point: To achieve this the respective locomotives are set to "stop at pre2in" in the locomotives properties. Now for these locomotives the pre2in has the function of the in-sensor. Accordingly these locomotives decelerate to V_mid5) at enter and stop at pre2in. One Sensor, = If only one physical sensor is used - e.g., for cost reasons, or to hold the wiring expenditure low - this sensor is defined as enter2in. The physical sensor generates the enter-event and starts a timer which generates the in-event after its expiration. The train decelerates to V_mid6) at enter and if the timer is elapsed (in-event) it decelerates to a halt. The timer (event timer) is found in the Routes Dialogue of the block properties and is valid for all routes of the block equally. Moreover, the timer can be set individually for each locomotive in the Locomotive Details. For standard section blocks with low demands for a precisely reproduceable stopping point this is one very well applicable configuration. Even a stopping exactness of few centimetres can be achieved by fine adjusting of the locomotive decoders, in particular the deceleration time (CV4). However, it must be made sure that the train comes to a halt position within the block borders. If a more exact stopping point is desired, however, an own sensor for the in-event should be used. https://wiki.rocrail.net/doku.php?id=sensors_and_blocks-en

re page 5, 'items sold out', may I ask, a simple question, is there a limit to how many of the same items one can buy? I got mine, but I ask cos maybe those with deep pockets bought so many container wagons or whatever sold out fast, that other loyal and regular buyers cant get them, should an upper quota be set?, clearly clubs and the like would get more. But if someone pops up on youtube with a rake of fifty and fithy more full boxes on shelves waiting to sell at some future date, is that not letting the side down? I fully understand the need to sell product to keep the show rolling, and it may look like either the finance or marketing team got the numbers wrong, (i said 'look like') yet it could all be down to a few buying so many, its unfair to everyone else.

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my bags are packed with your trains In ireland, i am charged taxes on some importid items from USA, ,, charged by postperson at my door. wont a hard brexit mean Tarrifs on luxury items,? to UK, as there is to USA, NZ etc. but not to EU. as for vat in EU, intra EU Vat is only Zero rated to businesses who can reclaim on Vies and Vat return, if you are not vat registered, you pay Vat in EU. as do all private customers. there used to be vat re-claim but i think thats all gone, non EU, tourists can reclaim vat, on purchases made here, so bring large suitcase and ship home with air luggage for cheapest rates. I am willing to personally deliver them To you in USA, if you pay my fair, time and 3 weeks r n r in Washington state. i will even make irish accent station recordings for you at that price...

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its a watch, n glasses, use my phone to run trains

while i can't critise the quality of your models, the new logo looks flat, the 'railway' white outlined text is very poor, and the entire logo takes up far too much web space, especially on tiny screens.

i just dont see the ivory,