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with all the drumlins, curving around and around , there cant have been much straight track,

Thank You,

Wrenn and Broithe, i been on IRM for a few months, and know so little about trains it embarrassing, the exactness of all your work is amazing, the detail you all go into is incredible. but i do know about plants, the picture show the species Crocosmia Lucifer or Crocosmia paniculata both are red in flower with bigger leaves than the invasive species Montbretia (Crocosmia X crocosmiflora) the link shows Montbretia (Crocosmia X crocosmiflora) if you get them paint the flowers red. he he, i enjoyed this... can i get an anorak now

yes its not your quote, more importantly , where do we buy you beer well done so, for the spread sheet, and all that data.

now that the plough has arrived, wrenn are ye doing the rotavator?

were nearly neighbours JHB, please upload the spread sheet to that dark place called resources on this IRM site, thats where it deserves to be

great stuff. me too JHB did you realy say this the following quote, JHB your so good, could we have it in New times roman? honestly on behalf of the rest of us, can i get you the pints or send chocolates? or something, what about a working time table for disused lines, blank your a star, i love you, xxx, JHB, please upload the spread sheet to that dark place called resources on this IRM site, thats where it deserves to be

add to that a list of modellers, all through the years and their displays, aint we lucky Ireland is so small, we can do stuff... the most glaring omission from any catalogue of modelling is in Manufacturers on IRM , for Acurascale and IRM aint listed, yes its clear on this site but if like most web searches you land on the Manufactures page direct, its not clear that IRM are there.. Lima are also missing so too Jouef, horby, bachman, ...as are some good ebay sellers

downloaded it all, then realised its not on spreadsheet, which makes copying it almost impossible, , is it written on stone tablets, ah jes lads, this is 21st century. i have choice, either work on my layout or download those line by line and upload as spread sheet. there goes my weekend! if we had enough photos we could put this in glorious colour, what a resource

Would it be too much to ask, to put an asterisk and number beside each item that has been modeled like Mk 3 carriages *2 *1=IRM *2= MM *3=PW *4= and so on so on two numbers separated by comma Kits by K, 460 × 276

where does MM coal wagons from waterford 'Murphys coal' fit?

Railwayanna update: Who got what, Dave got dublin bridge tag, which seemingly is Matt talbot bridge, and he didnt know that, so this newbee felt very smart, he nearly didnt, cos the kids in local school said that the dublin bridge was off the castlecomer dubllin bridge, but the train didnt go near comers dublin bridge, Eamonn got Enfield to Mullingar East , much to his suprise, it was Seans and tony's suggestion castlecomer discovery park museum got castlecomer. which is why i bought the lot, they also get athy wolfhill original track plan drawing, jhb171achill said the Milltown Malbay staff could go to the West Clare Railway for display at Moyasta , so as i often in the fair co, clare and know that spot well, i will drop that down to the lady who lives next door, unless you lot have a personal address or them or know who they are on this site I am keeping horse n jockey, for some reason esp as its worst condition of all of them Abbeydorney tag from cash bag, and castleblaney east goes to Sean, Hells Kitchen Railway Museum & Bar, Main Street, Castlerea. especially as he just told me the Mayo country museum in talks to take his collection, so as i up that way soon, he said drop in, i said only if i get to sit in the A55 cab, which i will do, cos that the one i ordered from IRM, happy days, that will be very nice thanks all, for the advice... NEXT, i know where theres 50 km of unused BnM track , does anyone want that ??

my eyes just popped

Hi merlinxlili, thanks, yes i copped that when i started testing the locos, any loose sand can cause shorts or at least dirt build up, so i cover the tracks in low sticky low tack tape and only PVA the sand between the tracks, carefull just to catch very tip of both sides of sleepers, enough to hold it down. when all that sets, hard, i come back , use track guage and drive trains and if all is good, then I run track guage again and fix the track sometimes with PVA, other places track nails, glue in very exacting spots. The screw and washer, works great to hold it all down.

Jbh141achill is d man,

Time travel, back in 2017, I realised I would have to design all the tracks and build the base of the basic scenery to see if it would fit, then number it n photograph it, then take it all up and wire the bus to the tracks, the following photos show just that.. by 2018, I had enough basic landscape done to allow me to see the future. Which I promptly stored away n went back to laying track n bus wires. By winter 2019, I had installed spot lighting and this changed everything, including allowing me to see into those dark corners. Back in 2018, I rough built the viaduct, south west corner, the ply in front will be the mid section reverse loop, !! oh !! the hammer, like every good mechanic, it's my essential modeling tool, great for cleaning the wheel of my most expensive models.. Above, North West corner, rough work landscape, this is all removed once it's places is decided, n the track is fixed n rough sanded, see other posts.

wiring connected and insulated, ready for point motor bases, and sand, the sand lifts the track, up over the wires and they disappear. i just getting the hang of soldering, now that most of the layout is built. fat good that is... the second smaller engine shed, this will be partially hidden behind a mid section line above this part , leading towards reversing loop.

bet they have, but where is it ? i think it would be useful, in some book? , pos on google books

More, wiring the engine shed, the feeders go under the sand on top of base board. I really got going in Winter 2017, the design took two years to test and quite a bit of time Scarm railroad track planning which when i laid it out just didnt suit or run well, so i put heaps of time into laying the track freehand and abandoned the track plan. Knowing absolutely nothing about model rail, I had to imagine how the trains will travel, how they will operate, how many trains I want to have running at the same time without having to worry about crashes, especially over crossings. As the track was over an uneven surface, i started using sand to level the tracks. The design for children is based on the requirement for Not handling the models, so continuous running and having all trains on the track at all time so the kids would not lift the models of the rails, Next was the bus, once i got that sorted to a point, i stopped on the bus and plan to tidy it up only after all locos, all carriages and wagons are tested, just in case i have to tare stuff up again. On an American web site I read about what not to do, and some stuff you can do, including selective compression, say compressing 200 miles of the same scenery into 2 or three feet of landscape, says i 'why not selective compressed time'' ? events over time for different eras, as long as they are small, different parts of the layout can be different eras allowing me to run just about anything I decided that creating cameos of Irish landscapes and train history would be far more fun for the family than a fixed theme and as I had no modelling experience i didn't have the confidence to model a particular era or trainscape in the first place. My trains may run around Killiney bay in one corner, over Eskers in another, through Castlecomer coal yards, a bauxite mine somewhere else, and more ideas are developing. Personally I think having vignettes of the Sallins bridge train robbery and the ammonia train crash would be fun, any interesting small scene found through out Ireland and down through history that will fit in a small section of the layout, such as the Harcourt street crash, well at least a steam loco sticking out of the wall at the end of one station! There are heaps of wee cameos that this family can model. So far, Its taken two winters to get the layout running, so as yet we are not concerned about scenery. Anyway there's not much room as we decided to go against the grain and fill much of the space with track. Above the largest engine yard, much of this will be hidden by roof and an over head spur, marked in pink on the layout map. What not to do! Overcoming bad design issues: As well as not dropping feeders, or using conventional track underlay, my Benchwork is too wide, cos there's no crawl space to get under it, so I have designed layout to allow me to crawl over it hence the sand for stability, I can easily reach every corner to clean the tracks, jes, cleaning track takes time, but when I finish the build I suspect it will greatly improve the time spent cleaning track, without damaging the track. above, sand is spread, the wires are then pushed into the sand, below the finished ballast level. then diluted PVA at various strengths is poured. No workspace! well limited work space, but I read somewhere to have no dust = keep the work space separate, so its downstairs Limited operator space, the seating well, easily fits 3, and the staircase has a door over top so that the operators main space = 4, we had 5 people when I had 6 trains run with lots of carriages for the first time, theres not much space to move around each other Not enough room for scenery, correct, but as kids and derailments meant climbing over stuff scenery will all be on the outer tracks and walls or if on layout will be mostly movable, anyway scenery will be last thing and we have a crazy plan to put handles on larger pieces, 'just lift the whole scene off' Duplicate routes serving the same purpose, this was listed as a common error on many web sites, but my duplicate route serve as runarounds, passing sidings and storage yards for long trains.

the brickwork on window suggests, window is an after thought, no cill may mean the upper window was made well after building was 1st built the bricks on the arch look older, and wouldhave been used to form arches and key stone V brick piller dont match, so it was added much later, when the rest was knocked. the stone mason was Joe Brady and his sister like raw onion sangers on rye, with home made pickle.

Musing of a newbe, I choose the name WaySide cos i new I had to approach my layout in a very unconventional way to get an unconventional track plan to work for young children in a tight space, i had to learn about all the rules of modelling then break some rules and no doubt upset experienced modellers. but hell, i build a successful business breaking every rule in the book, so what the heck and if and when i retire, i will have a huge work space up the garden to fill with trains if i still into it in ten years. indeed its on the same level as this room, so the train can run from here up to the shed, if I win the lotto!. Ignore the end off cut pic on wall, it will be covered by trees at the mouth of a tunnel, going into the false or hidden attic The hidden attic where the first and second level tracks have extra room to rise at 2% in a wide gentle arc. Yip i have to crawl over the layout to get in to build and clean track, done it so many times, that i have made it so I don't interfere with track. The landscape (pathway to hidden attic) is the green carpet under the soldering iron, thats where i have to crawl over. (suppose that will never get permanent modelling built on that section). I designed it so there is just three straight tracks near the doorway, as that its not going to get damaged if i do hit it, or have to walk on it. I also avoided having turnout bang smack in the middle of the walkway. there placed to both sides. The coffee jar on its side marks the 2nd level reverse loop, where its broken through the old ceiling. could be a long time before thats built as i only have winter to work, being a farmer and contractor. Its not that the attic gets hot in summer, , as the inner room is well insulated, the outter roof and sky light will get hot, so i took measures to insulate it and vent it as I plan to store my longest rakes in there on the track. Its easy to say, I should have done this, or do this or do that, but working in confined spaces in an small attic is not an easy job, This section on the 3rd level, will be a station, its one of the few places where the feeder wires are go through and under the baseboard its great for storing the different types of stock required for testing track while i work in other places on the layout, usually Lima models, strangely it a subject thats never discussed in online advice given to newbes, ie, when building in confined spaces, under eves and tight corners, its great to have cheap stock ready n close by to test tracks. When all is done, then i give the Murphy Models a run, way at the far end is the other side attic, the hidden track is 7 m loop at present. the track plan in the two hidden attics is not to scale so it fits on my laptop screen. another real problem when your sprawled out over the base board under those low ceilings in tight corners is accessing tools, they have to be around you within reach, so i built the track, starting with the furthest away corners, started with the A mainline up, and B main down, started close to the outer walls, and worked inwards. theres two loop sections on the track plan that are now redundant lines, as i needed them for testing tracks as i build the layout, but dont need them now, I suppose they are disused lines, very prototypical ! I was going to tare them up, but decided against it and will use them as sidings and storage tracks. and they will serve the kids well as that will keep their models to the lowest levels all within reach.

Track plan march 2019 After months of research, design, planning, testing, and Scarm track planner, I decided to ignore certain 'must dos' recommended in the model rail world as the attic space i have has a low apex ceiling and required an alternative to the standard height for base boards and dropper wiring. If my layout was to fit, my lowest level baseboard would have to be 50cm off the floor. I had no intention of crawling under base boards to wire the 250 different pieces of track all of which have wires attached. And just as well, for i discovered something that newbees will be very interested to hear, above the board wiring is far more flexible and forgiving as you build, especially in difficult to reach places. For when I wired my mid and upper levels, i used tradition feeders dropping through the base board, which meant no room for mistakes, they were unforgiving and newbees make lots of mistakes. after building the track i then used Itrain for the layout below. Railyard is a twice runaround folded dogbone continuous loop on 3 levels with lapped and passing siding type features that also act as storage and branch lines. There's two main stations and one branch and a spur to a rocket launcher for the 8 years old. To-date, 70% of track is laid. I added extra crossovers to insure trains just cant be run at the same speed all the time, so the children will need to drive them to avoid crashing. I also enjoyed driving over dodgy laid tracks, such as a bord na mona bog train would, so some of the layout (5%) needs very careful driving skills, Kaydee couplers wont work well on my layout, due to the bumps, Baseboards, 9x5, 9x5.5 connected in middle with 4 x 6 = basic shape |_| ad a mainline track on the outside. Built for children and adults in a small attic space of 16'x10' (4.87m x 3.4m), excluding a few breakouts through the low ceilings into sub attic space, RailYard has well over 100 metres of code 100 track. The layout has a one continuous outer main line, that folds back on itself: out/up and down/back, mainly as as two lanes with the end a folding section creating four lanes in some parts, The upper levels when built will have the more prototypical one main line and siding. The layout has an inner goods line, a few small spurs, 2 engine yards and 1 small short yard for coach rakes and a continuous hidden long track for 'first in first out' storage, Grades include 1cm and 2cm per 1m In time I plan to build a 3 lane fiddle yard and a viaduct. The aim with designing for young children is that there is enough track that no loco or carriage needs to be lifted off the track, to reduce handling, therefore once a rake is constructed it will not be deconstructed unless its Lima models, which are more robust.

just googled all the alternatives, in that case, you have only one choice, I suggest... Start teaching them about the intricacies of model rail, Personally i would start with the difference tween insuf' and electrofrog, quickly move to what you consider the best method of block detection and occupancy, do an hour of which cab is best?, a few hours on what the best ballast should interest them, but the killer blow that will send them all to sleep is the seemingly age old soapbox rant on invoking which is best, end to end or loops, when the poor critters are bamboozled introduce them to weathering, then kit bashing and to nail the coffin with whats live on the disused prototype, if that dont work, read them train time tables, and before you say it, or read them my posts on IRM, thers always leaving lead a lead based solder again the soldering iron and closed the windows seal the vents and there dead in moments, do you know professionals can smoke them out with nasty firework type slow burning chemicals, there used in glasshouses to destroy all life, you could return about a week later, the smell the smoke the products leave is cruel, lasts about two weeks.

Kieran , Gone or not from IRM, i hope you reconsider, your wonderful layout has inspired me, especially the greenery, it made you layout typically Irish in the Western European Flora sense, you achieved have that 'lush' look with ground cover, hedges and tall trees, I had pondered for months if i would use all the moss and twigs I had been collecting, having just visited this thread for the first time and seen your amazing layout and also your amazing weathering develop over all the years, it has inspired me to go green and cover the entire layout with foliage and then start weathering my stock , if ever I get the time. Gone or not THANK YOU.