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silver looks sky blue, , Pale blue and tartan , hauling purple and pink coaches, reading this out loud to my daughter, she just became a modeller! and she asks can they have ribbons, ,, says i only at the launch,, do you launch locos, like a ship, ???

https://www.ebay.ie/itm/vtg-badge-irish-rail-railway-junior-depotperson-larnrod-eireann-uniform-ireland/143135659826?hash=item21538cd732:g:EtcAAOSw9KVcXcP6 sums me up nice ... despot

oh dear, maybe this post should be moved to tip and tools, there is so many apps and tools that apply. and now there is a microscope camera to plug to phone for closeups. but my fav tool is this, a trials plot combine, i drive this one all summer its 1972 german made with VW petrol engine, maintained by Ken Graham, who runs Stradbally steam rally,

Broithe yes i know, i rushed the post , its on the intructions in box. bu i thought as it was for measuring planes, not trains, i just pxxss u off

My oldest one, and then this a planimeter, area, and FINGER Measure app, for measuring distance on map,google map does, and FINGER Measure app, for phone, uses google map and give liner and area measurements, make your life easy . or this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steinhaus_longimeter The Steinhaus longimeter, patented by the professor Hugo Steinhaus, is an instrument used to measure the lengths of curves on maps. It is a transparent sheet of three grids, turned against each other by 30 degrees, each consisting of perpendicular lines spaced at equal distances 3.82 mm.

Gb antique shops have heaps of them, Irish ones not so many

ah! something i do know about, check out Cartographer's drawing sets, drafting tools but especially 'technical pens' - 'Cartographer's ruling pen' /ruling bow pens, there are plenty of these old drafting tool sets about usually for same price as new ones, old sets are lovely to use and while often available very cheap with a piece or two missing from the set marked as incomplete, usually the ink nibs,. I often see the pen in such sets, from €5 at car boot sales, your price was about right for full set. There are brass sets too. some marked sets go for more than an average loco

do you mean ballast hoppers? yes please

Hi Junctionmad. the suggestion that some Toy trains are not "beautiful hard crafted models" ? woops, i mean no offense, I only relayed what i thought the editors were afraid to say, i meant they didnt know who to offend. if i understand above you are upset at hornby not me, i hope. but i disagree with your comment 'poorly modeled track or wacky track configurations are just as bad as a poor models of a loco or wagon' surely we all have to start somewhere, and looking at the hobby, with fresh eyes, to me, Lima's Irish models are beautiful, be they far from the reality, yet the capture the era in which they were made, just as modellers wish to recapture past eras, as for poorly laid track, BordnMona would be quite upset, and from what I see of old irish prototype rail, there was a lot of poorly laid track in the past, indeed getting trains to run around and around poorly laid track is my favorite aspect of this hobby, me and my kids have great fun, slowing down and driving the trains over difficult sections of tracks, they are learning how to drive. My layout was both 'excused' and inspired by a video of an incline that showed an irish loco struggling uphill on very poorly laid track. that i said is what i want an aspect of my model rail to represent,' the skill of the engineer/driver.' as i said "editors couldn't decide who to offend with "' playing, enthusiasts, modellers, toys, " '"meaning i understand the difference, but they were tip toeing about all the terms, not really committing to any one term to describe the hobby and being confusing in their various portrayals, and maybe they are reflecting a general criticism of the hobby, cos before i started looking, i hadnt a clue about what modellers got up to, or why.. yet i fully understand industrial heritage as its a passion of mine. i added 'who cares', cos i learnt stuff from the program, and that was all that mattered to me and may i suggest the general public feel the same, and form what James of DCCtrainautomation said in the increase in interest after the last program was aired on ch4 in 2018, his sales shot up by ten new customer a day, and isnt that an important part of the hobby, to occasionally inspire a modeller or two more to start the hobby for what ever reasons. play or realism, it doesnt actually matter. yes its clear that most on IRM are modellers, the skills and knowledge in this place amazes me, hence why i am contributing and reading through so many pages in the hope of accruing even a drop of your skills and knowledge, ,but i also see a number of abandoned blogs and layouts, and i ask my self why is that? many reasons I suppose, but one reason may be to enthusiasts and modellers, versus playing with toys. which just may upset the many who started with a boxed train set or as kids with toy trains and still consider it play, surely they didnt come to the wrong site?. In defense of toys, some of the most desired collectors / collections in the world are highly modeled accurate and prototypical toys, both manufactured and hand made. Be they Tin plate, carved old African, straw, wooden, clay, Video or plastic, many serious toy collectors would be quiet upset at the suggestion that some Toys are not "beautiful hard crafted models that represent the original" and this includes trains and the artists who create video games including train simulators. indeed I learnt from the 2nd prog that it was german toy manufactures of toy trains that inspired the first English models, which were marketed to the elite rich as toys for the 'boys'. Modelling only came much later. No I am not going to upset modellers by calling your creations toys. But modellers have to stop upsetting toy enthusiasts by claiming yours is a more noble hobby , it is a different hobby and just as yours should not be confused as toys, you should not belittle the levels of skills for the toy makers and video artists who create games,(toys) war games, lego, board games, and those who play them, you get the idea, its in the imagination of the beholder that matters. all human effort is relative, i hope i didnt offend you or anyone by saying all this, as there are many references on this site to playing with the models, nor will I be telling my partner, that I was playing with a model!

love it,

Noel, I enjoyed all the pages so far, and clearly as did all the other modellers by the comments they left, it great to see the many model layouts in this section that developed over time, so many seem to start then dissolve to no more pages. and since i been on site you have contributed to my knowledge with chat and answers to my posts/questions, so thanks clearly you enjoy you layout , the space you have is amazing, your weathering is developing so well, it gives hope to us newbees who have it all ahead of us, something tangible to aim for. i love this pic, and esp' the pallet, base board, thats so honest for a Rolexman. as for the GM 201 class number 201, as your layout is so large, its speed will suit it perfectly. it may even take off up the rising line like the Delorian car in the Back to the Future movie and end up in 1972.

yip bos, describes you well, i had seen this before on Youtube, didnt know it was your layout, fab. love the dart, so you have a dark side! the building next left besides Easons was the Palm grove ice cream parlor, i often had Roma Cafolla's peach melbas, while looking out at paddies day and easter parades, that building was bought by Easons sometime later, they extended the book depts into Dublins very best ice cream shop..

leslie, i must be a real modeller now, to pay for 2019, i turned off the heating last november,

@leslie10646 thanks was there new generator vans too... but before i asked you, i looked up wiki and found... generator vans (sourced from retired Irish Rail MK3 then i thought DMU's sure there not many as described below. "which make up the majority of the fleet" i did not know that. is that correct en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Head-end_power In Ireland, HEP is provided at European/IEC standard 230/400 V 50 Hz (originally 220/380 V 50 Hz.) This is to the same specification as the power systems used in Irish and EU domestic and commercial buildings and industry. On the Cork-Dublin CAF MK4 sets, this is provided by two generators, located in the driving trailer van and on the push-pull Enterprise sets, this is provided by generators in a dedicated tailing van. Irish DMU trains, which make up the majority of the fleet, use small generators located under each coach. Historically, HEP and, in older vehicles, steam heating was provided by trailing generator vans containing generators and steam boilers. These were normally located on the rear of train sets. The Enterprise Dublin-Belfast train sets initially used HEP from GM 201 diesel-electric locomotives, but due reliability issues and excessive wear on the locomotives systems, generator vans (sourced from retired Irish Rail MK3 sets and adapted for push-pull use) were added.

Noel (or however you get that green name tab you just used) Yes, I am learning about rail history, had read that info, before, then like most info i read had forget most of it about 10 mins after, so thanks for reminder, As i am consuming so much train info so fast. i am tending to keeping the stuff that suits my layout, and my ebay or silver fox 121 fits perfect cant wait for MM's. for me rail is a major part of a wider farm and industrial heritage which i love reading about.. 121 sorta says it all..

so real.. i love rust

Hi Popeye, I just read all 7 pages of your workbench posts so far. all your models are works of art, and you photos are great quality, your eye for detail is spot on. Do you or anyone give modelling classes? I for one would love to learn 1/100 of your skills.

thanks Noel. but its not a real photo, is it, its one of Popeyes models isnt it !!!, i just reading popeyes workbench during lunch, wow, i am amazed at the skills about here. flabbergasted. dumbfounded, such a skilled helpfull nice bunch like you uploading a photo for me.. ta i needed to stop after two hours bend over soldering tracks, so it was back to the laptop and a cheese sanger, but i drooling over popeyes works not the cheese

is the 121 loco in video in a livery ? it looks so unpainted, jes i know nothing bout dem trains

Hi Ironroad, great pics being on IRM blog makes me realize i am worlds apart from the serious modellers on IRM, as i write, i am waiting for the glue and sand to dry under my latest track section, an engine yard, (yes i use play sand to level my layout. (dont ask thats for another day) Wrenneire Daves lima collection, pics and pages give me great hope for my railway eye! that my understanding of design lead me to spot appreciate Lima before i found daves blog, as it was my own personal opinion, before i found daves collection, i had already bought a good few irish Lima coaches and found that many more shun them. great says I, the price is cheap. i dont have lima locos, just coaches i am writing this as much for new modellers as anyone, as aspects of this hobby can appear elitist, until you meet people n attend shows etc. I already know my limitations, that I should stay apart from the serious modelling scene as i could never aspire to the premier league of railway enthusiasm anyway, i dont have the knowledge, time, skills nor the inclination. But i do occasional get to work on rail, motorway and pipelines mostly DCC fascinates me, murphy models inspire me, and learning about model rail from scratch, while knowing very little about the hobby, is keeping me entertained at least, and broke. and theres so much more to learn and understand, at the DCC end i am taking it all in quite seriously. the aim for now is to run trains, what the future brings i dont know. ps. I am buying IRM too. As yet i have no grand theme or era, and likely wont, and if running Lima breaks the possibility that one day i might be a good modeller, i wont worry, i know that, many here have a life time craft experience and skills and tools and machinery for model making that i dont and wont. so my horizons are very different. At the same time i have to design my layout for youngish under 10 y, kids, who dont show that much interest as the layout is slow to progress. and sessions are few and far between the construction, so they dont often get to run the trains.. but i nearly there. and the kids r still young. Lima suits them. perfect quality! Early on i decided, getting a layout up and running was going to be challenge enough, so just running trains is joy enough, and Lima run, and crash and stand up far better than many, so to me 'tacky' is quality for my layout requirements, but i dont think they are tacky. and on, ,,those Lima pics you hosted arnt like the models i have and got from Dave, mine are even less prototypical, than your photos, so i dont know what they feel or behave like, but hek, i enjoy them as much as Mr Murphy and IRMs products that i have. italian irish is always good in my book. u said " some of that range was so terrible, it didn't necessarily reflect well on Irish quality" some of us find beauty in terrible, and lots of thing dont reflect well on quality. i am in my late 50's & i have discovered what is oft considered quality, was on surface Quality in appearance only, too often the choice and manufacture of materials destroyed our planet, its workers and resources, our pockets and like many brands was made by the same firm that re- branded the same stuff as yellow packs.at far lower non quality price..far too often we were sold 'a pup' in many walks of life..in the name of quality. i not arguing, just presenting a difference of opinion..one way I see it, if CAD software is fed measurements and photos and an IT/PC/IA machine pumps out a model that is an exact replica i dont necessary consider it quality. its exact for sure, the exactness is quality, But the materials are plastic not iron, steel, tin nor brass nor timber or potters clay. and if your not into plastic, then Q goes out the window, dont get me wrong i aint pointing a finger, just looking as i do with my other hobbies, on the nature of materials, the craft of how they are worked - what the personal effect is, the social effect, the politics and economy at the time, how they effect the planet, how they feel and behave as they are supposed to be used. sure for sure someday in the not to distant future oil based 'plastic' will be a material that ignites a collectors mind for reasons other than what we see today. durability, degree of carbon in the materials, who knows. and too often Quality is achieved by slaves who are paid buttons, and is by many considered not the same as quality from crafts persons , yet over the centuries, the real thing was so exactly faked that quality,, needs to be considered from all angles and if it stands up, then Q it shall be. Many antiques dealer will tell you quality is achieved today by fakers who put as much effort as the original. strangely in many fields collectors now collect some of the tattiest things that relate to there interest as they can provide the most pleasure.. in modelling many rustic layouts have a charm, one thats probably very hard to achieve by just throwing cash and plastic scenery at the layout... as for Price, its actually the last measure of quality. yet the first in popular culture. for me, if by hand, someone turns out even half the Q' of what Limas worst Quality is, drawings, making moulds, fixing together by hand, in a newish Irish state, with limited resources and an unskilled but willing workforce, (designed to compete in the Uk through the Irish back door of UK import bans on European trains "quotes from dave") there is e a certain quality i enjoy. eye of beholder, i suppose.. anyway WreeneireDave, you and I and many others enjoy Lima, and enjoy all these pics and pages that dave and others hosted, and for us beginners, Lima are relatively cheap to get going.. so thanks Dave et al, your a legend. every penny, every upload was well worth it. long may this lima collection last. its a national treasure.

CIE was obviously extremely proud of its new ‘A class’ diesel trains heralded by a sun-burst and shamrock. Like other posters aimed at the north American market, the aim was to stress modernity of transport. my comment, the loco looks like IRMs Cad drawing, whats going on ? Signed Curran. c.1950. https://www.museum.ie/Country-Life/Exhibitions/Previous-Exhibitions/Come-Back-to-Erin/Ireland-Welcomes-You

while searching the web for old irish locos I found this from https://railwaywondersoftheworld.com/gswri.html GREAT SOUTHERN & WESTERN RAILWAY EXPRESS LOCOMOTIVE No. 365, DESIGNED BY Mr. R. COEY, LOCOMOTIVE SUPERINTENDENT A GUARD OF THE GREAT SOUTHERN & WESTERN RAILWAY ROSSLARE, on the Wexford coast, answers to Fishguard. The two harbours were built at the same time as the terminals of the short sea route, but boats for Waterford and boats for Cork also start from Fishguard for those who prefer a longer sea passage. All three ports are served by the same railway, the Great Southern & Western, Ireland’s chief system. This extends from Dublin to Queenstown, from Rosslare to Kenmare on the south coast, and, on the west coast, from Valentia to Collooney near Sligo Bay, which is fairly to the north-west of Dublin, though the line goes round by the south-west to get at it. Inchicore, near Dublin, is the Great Southern & Western’s locomotive headquarters, and it has branch works at Limerick, for when it absorbed the Waterford & Limerick, and a reduction of expenses was provided for by removing the locomotive shops from there, the Limerick people got a clause into the Act retaining their works where they were, and thereby increased the working expenses instead of diminishing them. It owns about 300 engines, and among them are some excellent examples, powerful, serviceable, and smart, that would do credit to any company anywhere. Of its 8000 vehicles about a thousand are passenger coaches, many of them, such as are used in the Killarney express, being as good as those of the great lines in England, and none of them so bad as some of our survivals. Its carriages, like its engines and the miles of its track, number more than a third of the Irish total. There are in Ireland about 3100 miles of railway, and of these the Great Southern & Western owns over 1100, the Great Northern and the Midland Great Western coming next with 1080 between them in almost equal shares. The English companies are beginning to take more interest in Irish matters in a practical way; not only have the Great Western gone to Rosslare, but the London & North Western have been the owners of the Dundalk & Greenore since 1873, and the Midland have an Irish section farther north. The oldest railway in Ireland is the Dublin & Kingstown, authorised in 1831, now forming part of the Dublin & South Eastern, which also includes the once atmospheric Kingstown & Dalkey that led Brunel astray with regard to the South Devon. The Great Southern & Western was authorised as a line from Dublin to Cashel in 1844, and has grown by many amalgamations, for all Irish railways began in a small way and have had to struggle for their existence. They have to depend on passengers more than on merchandise, and the whole of them together do not carry so many passengers as the London, Tilbury & Southend, nor so many goods and minerals as the South Eastern & Chatham. The gauge battle was just the sort of thing in which Irishmen would revel, and they chose their gauges to please themselves. The Ulster, for instance, completed twenty-five miles of the road from Belfast to Dublin on a gauge of 6 ft. 2-in, while the Drogheda, which set out from Dublin to meet the Ulster, adopted 5 ft. 2-in. When this was complained of by the Ulster company, the Irish Board of Works replied that though it looked a bit awkward, yet, as there was little chance of the intervening part being finished, it really did not matter. This airy sort of thing, however, was not quite good enough for the Ulstermen, who appealed to higher powers, with the result that Sir Charles Pasley, the Inspector-General of Railways, was requested to look into the matter of these Irish gauges. That ingenious engineer, after trying persuasion in vain, solved the difficulty arithmetically by adding up the width of gauge adopted by every Irish company, dividing the total by the number of companies, and thereby obtaining an average of 5 ft. 3-in, which thus became the Irish national gauge. Being national, it was, of course, not generally adopted, and so we have at present eleven lines of 5 ft. 3-in, and five - the Ballycastle, the Cork, Blackrock & Passage, the Londonderry & Lough Swilly, the Londonderry & Strabane, and the Ballymena & Larne - each of 3 ft, and the Listowel & Ballybunion with its mono rail without any gauge at all.

Brexit fears have led to a heritage railway carriage being brought across the border sooner than expected. With continued uncertainty over what will happen after March 29, the Downpatrick & County Down Railway rushed to get the carriage across the frontier this week. Railway chairman Robert Gardiner said: "We worked flat out to ensure we brought the vehicle to Downpatrick before the Brexit deadline. We didn't particularly like the idea of smuggling a railway carriage across the border." https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/brexit-fears-mean-historic-train-car-moved-over-irish-border-early-37887175.html

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