DJ Dangerous

Have you seen the proof that these extras are in breach of contract, or is that an assumption based on your experience? Murphy Models have already released a loco since the 121’s, so your statement on this delaying new projects seems flawed. I agree that it is sad, specially the RPSI limited edition, but I’d like to know, rather than assume, what the legality is.

My point is that nobody knows the full story, so we are left to assume one thing or another. No point assuming the worst. If somebody can’t get their hands on the 121 that they want, buying one of the extras is akin to buying a used one. I just hope that the 121’s, and the 141’s, sell out before the 071’s or 201’s arrive.

Assuming that the small print has permitted these extras be produced, how is that a copyright issue? In the absence of a statement from Murphy Models, it is equally fair to assume that the extras are fully legal. One can choose to assume that they are legal, based on the principle of innocent until proven guilty, or one can choose to assume that they are illegal, based on personal preference.

That’s an assumption on the ethics. We don’t know if there was wording in the contract that permitted the sale of the extras. If it IS permitted, it’s not unethical, it’s just bad luck. Price difference between the extras and original models for sale is quite extreme. Around €150 including postage, for mine, with a similar example quoted elsewhere by @Darren.d. I had been hoping that my experimental one would have been different internally, cheaper motor or something, or wouldn’t run, or would sound like a bag of spanners, to help identify the different models, but that was not the case. Hopefully, Murphy Models publish an official statement on their website, explaining how this happened, and what steps they have taken to prevent future occurences. In the absense of such a statement, it’s prudent to at least be open to the possibility that the extras have been legally produced, albeit to the disdain of some. I think it’s about two years now since the extras appeared for sale online, but I’m open to correction. On the bright side, the originals were long sold out everywhere before the extras appeared, so there was no harm caused to sales of the originals. I’ve used the terms “originals” and “extras” as they seem to encompass the models well, without making any accusations.

How will buying these hinder further production from Murphy Models? I assume he has put safeguards in place to prevent this happening again. Clearing the market of these (and the 141’s) before Paddy’s next loco will BOOST his sales, not hinder them. The only ones who would benefit from people being afraid to buy them are out for their own interests.

They’re indistinguishable. I bought one earlier this year to test, and they are identical inside and out. @Westcorkrailway said that they are factory rejects, unfit for sale, but I believe these are over-produced by the factory. How long is the guarantee on the 121’s valid for? If one bought a second-hand 121, would it be covered under guarantee by Murphy Models? The Murphy Models website states: “If you experience problems with your Class 121, 071, 141/181, Class 201, Craven Coaches or Mark IId Coaches, please contact your supplier in the first instance as they may be able to resolve the problem without having to return the model to Murphy Models. If the model does need to be returned to Murphy Models, please package it properly and securely and address it to: Service Department Murphy Models 2 Wexford St Dublin 2 Ireland Please enclose a full description of the problem, a contact phone number and/or e mail address and a return postal address. Enquiries can be e mailed to: customerservice@murphymodels.com”

Another load of 121’s on eBay today, if you’re still looking.

Not muchroom muchroom for squirrels…

Mine is showing scheduled delivery for the 25th, so until then, incessant badgering buyers into buying badgers.

But how can you get by without your badger?

Rails Rewards Points are the badger bait instead! You could always badger, I mean butcher, the bogies for 21mm running. Have you enough 50’s, yet?

What’s the subscription money going on, if it’s hit and miss?

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger… Have you ordered one, yet?

I thought they’d gotten their shit together since then with proper backups etc?

And what lovely wagons they are!!!

Looks amazing!

Maybe time to merge the forum with RMW and not worry about stuff like that!

Is the rodding functional or aesthetic?

Now that is something else! What a build!

Will there be “muchroom” under the shed for the garden line to pass beneath?

LNER loves drifting, specially dogs drifting. Don’t badger me over the Class 89. It’s in the post, Sett to arrive in the coming weeks.

Could the shed incorporate two badger-gates that can be propped open, allowing the garden line effectively pass through?

Badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger badger…

Oh no, a snaaaaake!

Just found the Tara Junction video of the tamper on YouTube: That is outstanding, @ttc0169!