DJ Dangerous

I hadn’t realised how high inflation was. I knew that 2023 spiked way up to 9% due to the Russian invasion of Ukraine the year before, and post-Covid demand for consumer goods surging. I thought that it had fallen back since. Does this mean that the base cost for you guys contracting from China has also gone up by 35% or 40%? I saw that £250 steam engine… No thanks! Well, the boot is on the other foot now and the snarcy Webbers are kicking the DC modellers, as the match progresses. I guess the simplest solution for DC modellers is to avoid pantograph locos, and stick to the £170 diesels.

The Class 89 (£230 DC / £330 DCC) was a limited release, so not an accurate comparison to a general release. The first run of the Class 92 (£190 / £280) is a better comparison. The £190 / £280 pricing I’ve quoted is the second revised pricing, to cover the extra tech included. First pricing revision was £180 / £270. Launch pricing was £160 / £250. So £230 / £300 is literally a £40 / £20 increase over the re-revised pricing, and is £60 / £30 more than a non-pantograph Class 60. If the Non-Sound decoder adds to the price, and the pantograph adds to the price, it would appear that each adds £30, using your 2025 Class 60 pricing? You’re getting a serious kicking in terms of the, errrmmm, passion, of the, as you call them, the 10%.

On re-reading the RMW thread, I wonder if selling the locos with blanking plates instead of decoders, and reducing the price by €40, would make DC users happier, following the more established opt-in model for DCC, rather than making it opt-out? I know that A/S do take RMW feedback on board, for example the unpainted sockets on the Class 50, and this decision does seem to be generating a bit of froth.

Wow, I see you guys taking a serious kicking over the pricing and your attitude on RMWeb. Mind you, one of those posters in particular seems to take issue with almost every A/S launch! I thought the RMW base in general would have been happier, given the 10:90 DC:DCC split. Wonder where that other chap got the 40:60 split figure from. Would I be correct in understanding from the RMW thread that a DC user has two options? A. Take the loco and plonk it on your track and go, runs out of the box. B. Buy an A/S blanking plate for €6 to replace the DCC Non-Sound decoder, swap the two inside the loco, and sell the decoder on eBay for €46, while plonking the de-decodered loco on the track. On DC, the pantograph is manually operated either way, irrespective of whether the loco has a decoder or a blanking plate? So in effect, by selling ones decoder after buying the blanking plate, they are reducing their outlay quite a bit?

You’re wasting your time posting the links anyway. I’ve been posting eBay finds for yonks, here, and nobody gives a damn, never a thank you or anything. You’re posting irrelevant pricing. Post the Euro prices and mention the taxes, otherwise you are misleading Irish based buyers of Irish outline, who, presumably, form the bulk of the buying contingent. Keep posting irrelevant stuff and I’ll keep laughing. €325 EURO is not a fair price! Jaysus. I posted two surplus A’s up to Dublin, paying a fortune for postage from Canarias, and import taxes on arrival, and couldn’t even sell them at €250 each to cover my costs, never mind €270 each to have made it worth my while.

Shocking prices! €190 EURO including VAT when new. €325 EURO today.

Wow, that’s some split, 10/90 DC/DCC. That also explains why the DC models tend to sell out before the DCC models in most cases. Makes sense that the likes of the Class 89 and the revised Class 92 are not sold as pure DC, specially with that split. Glad that there will still be some DC models for the moment, too. Maybe I’ll go full DCC one day, but not for the foreseeable future.

Lovely!!! Are the Polo’s something to do with the Channel Tunnel?

I class DC modellers combined with those who wish to go their own DCC route as “DC buyers”, so probably a sizeable group.

So the big jump in price on both variants over a Class 60 is only because of the pantograph, really. And on top of that, the DC model is technically a DCC Non-Sound model rather than DC, but is configured to permit DC running. That’s pretty innovative. Is this the end of pure DC models from A/S? Will the only options be DCC Non-Sound and DCC Sound, going forward?

Accurascale just dropped the Class 89 DCC Sound video:

And in an unusual 1:18 vs. 1:1 showdown video:

Great to see the Class 92 back, and great to see A/S supporting a worth cause again. Just to clarify, the DC model is £60 GBP more than a DC Class 60, because of the pantograph and associated decoder, and the DCC Sound model is £30 more than a DCC sound Class 60 because of the pantograph? I do understand that the DC model doubles up as DCC Non-Sound as the pantograph requires a decoder to operate either way.

Thanks, @Colin_McLeod! Found the Phoenix Precision Paints NIR range of colours HERE, for anybody who needs them: NIR Light Blue: https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/paint-products/precisionrailway/irish/14p894 NIR Intercity Blue: https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/paint-products/precisionrailway/irish/14p886 NIR Dark "Caribbean" Blue: https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/paint-products/precisionrailway/irish/14p889 NIR "Morocco" Maroon: https://www.phoenix-paints.co.uk/products/paint-products/precisionrailway/irish/14p890 They also have a range of Irish colours which may be of interest to some. Donegal colours, cement wagon colours, Dublin Bus colours, very handy. Thanks again to @Colin_McLeod and @Robert Shrives for the info!

Duly and deservedly liked on YT!

Absolutely class, @Rob! The roof weathering on the Mk2D is particularly nice, like it spent too much time right behind the locos. Love the Mk3 photos. The first two in particular look like photos from a rolling stock book by Doyle and Hirsch. Top notch stuff.

Missed your last few posts, @ttc0169! They got buried under the sea of slurry. Lovely stuff, off to watch the YT video on the PlayStation now.

That’s amazing! Lovely build, and a great price for a DCC ready trainset and layout! It would be particularly good for somebody who hasn’t much time or space. Thinking of some of our younger members, who are kept too busy with school or college. Uff, I sound so old! When I was your age…..

Accupido? Accurapido? Rapidoscale? RapIRMascale? IRMascido? Yeah, I have one or two and they’re grand, too. Just be handy knowledge for “one day” either way. Nearly sure that somebody here, possibly @Georgeconna, said that converting them to DCC was so unpleasant that he wouldn’t do another. Apologies if that wasn’t you, George! The old CAD trolling was great for drumming up interest and building excitement and anticipation. Also gave a chance for feedback before it was too late, on things like the British buffer spacing on the IRM Bulleid range. Might be a surprise in tooling for us, who knows? If @BosKonay doesn’t unequivocally deny that, it’s certainly a possibility, as nobody likes trolling us more than him.

Lovely, @Colin_McLeod! What RAL shades did you use for the NIR "Morocco" maroon and "Caribbean" blue? P.S.: Thanks to @Robert Shrives for the names of the colours!

Wondering if one could do a Frankenstein between the Bachmann N and Rapido K? The Bachmann N is on the RMW Mazak Rot / Zinc Pest list…

Slight update to the lifetime warranty process posted on RMWeb:

Slight update to the lifetime warranty process posted on RMWeb:

Slight update to the lifetime warranty process posted on RmWeb:

Finishing in three and a half hours, current bid €250, plus €25 postage, plus import fees: https://www.ebay.es/itm/277355536261