Westcorkrailway

One of the books i saved from being thrown in the local libraries bin! Along with some other rare books like colm creedons cmdr book. Irish railways in colour 1 and 2 are very good for colour pictures of the late 50s early 60s.

Toss in some blue and cream coaches for the craic!

Oh man, could not have worded it better myself!

This is taken at thr DNGR with engines ready for scrap. That loco inbetween could easily pass of as one of the cbsc tanks. Id swear there one of the same

I suppose its a case of like the amount of photos and paintings doctored by stalin for propaganda purposes. No matter what happens these photos are going to be colourised anyway and places like the NLI and IRRS will (more then likely) always exist as a valuable source of information and colour photos that make sense Besides if somone does propper research into the topics. They will eventually find the correct answers If West Cork Railway Colourised survives the next 50 years. Ill be able to tell people whats accurate and whats not... if these really do become a problem which i dont think they will At least in this one taken in a time where colour cameras were hardly used it (might) be easy to distinguish it as colourised

Interesting.......

Lucky for us right now.....95 percent of cases its SO obvious whats colourised and whats not. And on mine anyway there is a little painbrush icon to show that it is colourised....unfortunatly instagram squares that off sometimes.....which is a b*llox to be fair. Colourising has become a hugetrend. When I started may of last year "old ireland in colour" had about a thousand followers. Now they have a book with 1 million in sales! 2020 really kicked it off. Some of them half decent and some of them just look coffee stained! The pure number of them means it will be impossible to re mark these up. These sacrifice historical accuracy for accessibility. Which while it makes it easier for youngsters like myself to research it. It might throw peiple off. However considering that all my photos are on the internet in a black and white version and i beleive that in 40 years AI will improve to where i can improve these images to a much better standerds and hopefully make the art of colorising a lot more ethical. Hopefully in the future people will still be into reading and hence realise that AEC railcars were green....Along with other issues. The policy for all ye future historians out there is....."if it looks too brown......dont trust it" But look at the photos below and draw your own conclusions Origional B/W roger joanes Colourised of the exact same photo A VERY simular view in colour. Only this C is supposed to be silver!

Ahh eventually the AI will catch up. If there was a version where you could tell the AI that say this portion is green ect. It loves painting platforms, ballast, and any spec if vegetation in green......But railcars....never! On my page we call it "the curse of the Red Railcar" so orange it looks like its been either been left outside for 40 years or in supertrain livery!

I have that book and he has done a great job alright. But as is even some of thr best colourisation teams with hours of work and propper editing and what end up with the same result as my 5 minute job when it comes to the locos themselves. This is a brilliant pic but i dont think any lines in kerry had blue coaches The train isn't great in the S&SLR Pic. But it wasn't very imaginative in the original B/W photo either. The earlier the black and white photography. The worse the colourisation struggles it seems We see this here in this early picture of timoleague......there is something very hazy about it.

Now here is one done by "Old Ireland In Colour" who while don't have experience in railways (they didn't know the buffer beam was supposed to be red initially) Are considered the top colourisation pages in Ireland. Despite having access to proper tools to modify some of the colours using photoshop that "Brown" vibe still remains off them

The thing that holds this photo back is the sky. If a blue sky was picked up on even half these photos it would make then 200 times better. Many times will it be a dull day or completly white as seen here

Here we see another problem with colourisation. Platform surfaces weren't smooth in the time if black and white photography. So the AI will think the rough texture is grass. Particularly in the foreground you can see how green this platform is

Continuation of another thread about 00 works locomotive. There are generally mixed feelings about this method of adding colour to black and white photos. Usually centering around (when it comes to railways anyway) Locomotive prototypes being butchered and put into the wrong colour as i said before.... The point if colorising is not for precise colours. It is rather to spark the imagination of somone as to give them a better idea of what it was like if they werent there and see B/W photos much harder to understand. Some cheap colorising programmes are awful and make everything into browns and ocasional greens. My one does the odd very convincing one (typically if the sky is done correctly done). Ballast and platforms often come out with green simetimes but that be altered sometimes and the worst offender of all when looking at railway related colourisation's is loco's and Rolling stock which often looks completely wrong. -A good colourisation. No locomotive, beutiful sky and some might even mistake it as real colour photography at a glance. -When Colourisation goes bad. A bullied railcar wears orange like its 1985! The station looks dull, C class looks like a dirty silver C class when in that pic it should be green.

Might make a thread on it later. Its an interesting conversation and definitely has a huge future

The point if colorising is not for precise colours. It is rather to spark the imagination of somone as to give them a better idea of what it was like if they werent there and see B/W photos much harder to understand. Some cheap colorising programmes are awful and make everything into browns and ocasional greens. My one does the odd very convincing one (typically if the sky is done correctly done). Ballast and platforms often come out with green simetimes but that be altered sometimes and the worst offender of all when looking at railway related colourisation's is loco's and Rolling stock which often looks completely wrong. A good colourisation. No locomotive, beutiful sky and some might even mistake it as real colour photography at a glance. When Colourisation goes bad. A bullied railcar wears orange like its 1985! The station looks dull, C class looks like a dirty silver C class when in that pic it should be green.

Colorising pictures of the West Cork railway is kinda my thing https://m.facebook.com/westcorkrailwaycolorized/

Hopefully. Maybe a more universal or recognisable locomotive would be key. (As would something not withdrawn before the 2nd world war) because the CBCSR is niche market. Of course while I'd love something like T&C locos St.Mologa and Argadeen. 00 works have done a west cork loco now theyll probobly try do some other railways in ireland.

I got that book along with about 30 other railway books in a local library clear-out for peanuts! Not to mention some goodies in some of the books!

Era.....just plank GNR over it like CIE did with GSR in this pic!!!

If i ever get around to the bandon tank (by the way if you know anyone who would be willing to contract to making the kit pm me) it will be in black as is number 90. Didnt wear it for very long but i like the livery. I was looking at the 00 works model ages ago but because how early it was withdrawn i was put off......however the pre grouping livery is making me have second thaughts Picture of Kinsale station circa 1900. CBSCR white pannels are eveident

Oh...... Looks lovely and its an easy fix thank god

Ive only seen pictures of the 472's working on the quays, or working the clonakilty branch in the GSR days. If i got this loco i would probably get the pre grouping variant and buy maybe 2 6 wheel coaches in CBSCR maroon i belive it was. And just shoe horn it in with 1950s locos on the odd running session just to have a pre grouping loco example. GSR grey doesn't sit well with me on that model! Lets just hope no one buys it before i inevitably want to impulse buy it! Whenever i get round to actually laying the track ill PM for those timetables.

CBSCR Livery does look very tempting. However it would be something id only get for the sake of getting one as i have VERY limited funds. GSR version would be more prototypical for my layout but i don't think i like it all to much. Definitely a few fictitious things deffinetly carrdiges for a start.....maybe if i focus on crossbarry the kinsale branch will be open ect. This loco would be one of those things and it is beautiful (in pre grouping livery). Despite it being completely prototypical to West Cork exclusively. I can't just "snap" one up!

Thats.....better abeit the market for that loco is extraordinarily small. I might get one in the FAR future as it fits as well into my layout as a 141.

Speaking of narrow guage and West Cork, Check out Schull by Mark Dunlea. Unbelivable layout and as he has access to a 3d printer (he creates shells for number 90) he was able to print one of the S&SLR tanks