-
Posts
4,734 -
Joined
-
Last visited
-
Days Won
118
Content Type
Profiles
Forums
Resource Library
Events
Gallery
Blogs
Store
Community Map
Everything posted by Mayner
-
Interesting contrast between the C&L in GSR days with reasonably clean locos well maintained stock and infrastructure and run down CIE condition. It looks like Leyden's Coal Screens and loading plant may have been built on the foundations of the Arigna Iron Works dating from the early 1800s with later additions in concrete and corrugated sheet Some of the buildings were roofless by the mid-late 50s with the roof sheets but not framing removed from the large concrete building on the right and the 'lean to building beneath the ropeway.
-
Narrow Gauge in the Rockies not quite
Mayner replied to Mayner's topic in US / Canadian Railway Modelling
Its coming around to that time of year again days becoming shorter/cooler before leaf fall and winter more inclined to run trains than during the summer. Weather was good wasn't busy and I decided to run some trains Friday afternoon usual pattern a Way Freight or Pick up Goods to Jackson City the principal Town (railway depot/yard) on the line and a Stock Special to Arboles a small country Depot in the middle of no-where. 464 is on shed at Jackson City having worked in on the previous days freight. Almost drought conditions since before Christmas apart from the tail end of a tropical Cyclone in February which brought flooding and brought down trees, some damage to the Jackson County. The 'metal' fill in the Loco Yard has become nicely consolidated trying to avoid gluing, as glued ballast/paving tends to break up after 2-3 years. 348 arrived at Arboles with the Stock Special. Probably should change the name to Arbol as only one of the trees planted is thriving. The Caboose was uncoupled from the rear of the train before pushing the Stock Cars into the Siding for loading and re-coupling the caboose. Smaller stock yards tended to have 1-2 loading chutes and the loco would have to stay on the train and position the cars for loading which could be a slow process. The DRGW tended to use these small 2-8-0s for stock and freight trains on lightly laid branch lines until abandoned during the late 1940s -mid 1950. Close up of the Accucraft Kuckle couplers. Which are basically a scaled down version of the prototype, uncoupling is by raising a pin with a lifting bars on the freight car, caboose or loco. Departing Arboles tender first. 464 waits to take over from 346 at Jackson City. The stock train is too heavy for the small 2-8-0 on the 4% grade to the staging in the Garage 464 awaits to depart with the Stock Train as 463 arrives with a Way Freight (West) and 348 makes up 463s train (East) for departure. Nearly Tea Time! 463 has drawn her train into the clear to allow 464 to depart with the Stock Special. The next move was for 463 to either reverse or draw forward clear of the yard to allow 348 to position her cars on the Departure Road (at left of 464). Unfortunately rain was forecast, it was getting dark, and we had to abandon the session for another day! 463 pushed her train back to the staging, 464 returned picked up the cars that 348 had positioned and departed (in the dark) with 348 banking the train. Natural Weathering. I tend to allow dust to accumulate of freight car roofs as its very time consuming to remove. The Stock Train was caught in a sudden shower yesterday and I allowed to dry naturally with a reasonable effect. 348 was dried in the traditional manner with an oily rag! -
Suspended timber floor or concrete slab depending on era built. New Ross had a timber floor, possibly brick or concrete foundations/rising walls. Corrugated or weather board on timber framing. Interiors lined with tongued and grooved boarding or possibly wallpaper on hessian on rough cut boards. Timber frame with corrugated iron roofing and either timber weatherboard or corrugated iron cladding was and to a degree still is the standard for of construction in New Zealand, its an extremely resilient form of construction with many building from the 19th and early 20th Century still in use to this day, our house is just under 100 years old corrugated iron roof, original timber wall cladding, joinery and framing all hardwood with some modern upgrading. It might be worth contacting IE Chief Civil Engineers Office who may have drawings of some of the buildings signal cabins at stations on the Wexford Line were upgraded during the 1990s. Its possible Thompsons or Carlow Museum may have information on corrugated iron buildings supplied to railways, Thompson's have been in business since the early 1900, Keenan's of Bagnallstown was another major Co Carlow based structural steelwork/corrugated building supplier.
-
The West Cork and West Clare and other Tod Andrews closures appears to have been based on projections that CIE would loose less money, or possibly make a profit (in terms of operating and capital costs) if the passenger and goods traffic was transferred from rail to CIE road passenger and freight services. The 'improvements' tended to be more Bureaucracy and Incompetence with the left hand not knowing what the right hand was doing rather than cooking the books. The Policy Makers that decided on closure or a change in operating policy failing to inform Way and Works or Mechanical Engineering of a decision. Good examples were CIE ordering the G611 Class and the Western Region ordering the Class 14 "Teddy Bear" locomotives for Branch Line & Trip Working when they were largely redundant with Branch Line closures and changes in freight operation in both Ireland and the UK. In a lot of cases the work or project was already budgeted for a particular project and could not be used for a more relevant alternate project, very much a case spend it or loose it and keep staff employed until they could be re-deployed, retired or became eligible for redundancy. Sometimes it was cheaper to keep someone on the books (doing nothing) until they retired if they were unwilling to voluntary transfer to another role than offer and pay redundancy, during the 1980s my father (a fitter) was refused redundancy because of his long service while younger staff and some of his apprentices were offered and took redundancy. I ran into the same problem as a Head of Department on a UK Heritage railway although less than a mile long we had the same management structures and siloed mentality as British Rail. Some "improvements" such as the 'relaying' of parts of the Burma Road, Youghal Branch and other lines was actually the P.W. Department replacing good quality rail and track panels with worn material before closure for use on other lines, for many years CIEs track maintenance on secondary lines was based on patching using material cascaded from the mainlines and recovered from branches/closed lines. The Mechanical Engineers Departments tend to do the same using stocked locos and rolling stock as a source of spare parts before they are officially withdrawn and scrapped, hence long lines of stopped 001s at Inchacore, redundant 4w wagons at North Wall and long lines of stopped Class 31 Locos at Totton before they were actually withdrawn
-
I haven't any personal experience with Kato track, the photo looks spot on for American track and looks a lot more realistic than Peco Code 80 or 55 N gauge track. With the realistic track and standard and details of 3251 I almost want to resume where I left off my American N Scale modelling buy some Kato track and keep my stock of Peco for staging and hidden track I know of one large layout in Auckland which uses Kato track, the owner is the former owner of a model shop and importer of American and Japanese railway models prefers Kato to other system
-
Ken Fair play! especially producing kits for an unsung railway like the DWWR/DSER. I have used PPD for over 10 years and they consistently turned out high quality work and resolve problems when they occur. I have basically ceased design and manufacture of etched kits because of the lack of demand and I am focusing on models for my own personal use. Have you looked at a jewelry or precious metal supplier producing lost wax castings direct from a 3D model as opposed to resin casting? The lost wax castings for my 52 Class kit were produce from 3D printed masters as I did not realise that my supplier could produce the wax moulds by 3D printing https://morrisandwatson.com/3d-printing/ Unfortunately I haven't figured out how to form or 'loft' a 3D flare or skirt for a dome or chimney for the 52 Class I also use lost wax castings, when its necessary to produce duplicate or multiple patterns of producing whitemetal or pewter castings of components like springs or axleboxes. Lost wax casting worked out quite reasonable in cost, its possible that businesses in the Ireland and the UK are offering similar services to Morris and Watson.
-
I originally planned (2010)to produce the Tin Vans JMD using a cast resin body (from a 3D printed master) before going down the etched kit route. One of the main draw backs was high production costs due to the short mould life (<20 repeats per mould?) and labour intensive nature of the casting and clean up process. 12 years later I quickly found out that resin casting was not an option for producing the CIE 20T Goods Brake van. The local (New Zealand) companies that once carried out resin casting have either gone out of business or shifted to resin printing.
-
Leslie You made me reach for my copies of Locomotive & Rolling Stock of CIE and NIR. It looks like like you have sold more 54 Double Beets and 177 less 20' Skeletal Flats than CIE actually built. 300 Flats is not bad by any standards for a resin casting. I still have to get round to building my 'stash' of PW wagons, but haven't been able to find the time since I gave up my 'day job' several years ago.
-
Interesting seeing Collrolled Steel Framing being used in Ireland, though I 'built' the Four Storey 150 Bed Hotel with the stuff in Dublin during the mid 90s and its still standing. Looks like an excellent layout room high standard of dimensional stability with insulated wall and roof panels. Rolled steel framing which is becoming popular in this part of the world because of its light weight and dimensional stability compared to timber framing. The only odd thing to my mind was the traditional block rising walls and ground bearing floor slab, the majority of lightweight buildings in this part of the world are built on an insulated raft slab on a compacted sand pad.
-
The MGWR built few branch lines (Edenderry, Clara, Killeshandara) after it completed its trunk routes from Dublin to Galway and Sligo. The majority of MGWR Branch and secondary Main Lines were promoted and built by locally owned companies and worked by the Midland. The "worked" lines were built to MGWR standards in terms of civil engineering, buildings and structures, trackwork and signalling with stone station buildings, standard MGWR 2 road engine sheds and coal stages rather than the more economic construction favored by other companies. Interestingly Killeshandra had a small single road shed with integral water tower at the rear of the building, like a reversed version of Tetbury but with the water tower on one side of the roof. I think a Strandhill branch was more likely to be based by a loco based at Sligo, even the Midland would have been pushing it to demand a 2 road loco shed for a station only 5 miles from a major Loco Depot, but a shed for a single loco might have been justified in the days when locomotive crews were allocated to specific locos which more or less became part of the family Its likely a Sligo-Strandhill railway would have been financed and built by local interests in the 1870s and later taken over by the Midland in a similar manner to the Ballaghadereen Branch when the Strandhill company ran out of money/went bankrupt. There would have better chance of success for a Strandhill Railway from the 1880s onwards Baronial Guarantees on capital and potential Government Grants made it easier to raise capital to finance and build a railway. The presence of the SLNCR, WLWR/SLNCR in Sligo would have made negotiating a favorable operating agreement a lot easier, the MGWR was likely to be less insistent on imposing its standards with actual competition in the market. Modest cut stone buildings such as Ballaghadereen or Killeshandra would fit in for a branch line worked by the Midland before the arrival of the SLNCR or WLWR on the scene who would have been less fussed about station architecture and large loco depots. Westport Quay is a bit of an oddball in terms of MGWR terminal stations with a very humble plastered or possibly whitewashed station building and no goods shed. The Great Northern and Western (Athlone-Westport Quay and Ballina) station buildings became increasingly spartan as the line progressed Westwards, plain rectangular single storey cut stone buildings (originally without a platform canopy) at all stations from Castlerea to Westport Quay and Ballina in place of the ornate Gothic station buildings at Roscommon, Donamon and Ballymoe The WLWR developed its own distinct style for smaller stations on the Limerick Sligo line with 'Cottage Style" station building with stones quoins and plastered walls, stone goods sheds water towers and other structures. Tubbercurry appears to have had a single road loco shed in WLWR days but appears to have been demolished long before closure. On the other hand the GSWR and SLNCR would have no qualms with steep grades or corrugated iron buildings, so Cahirciveen could be literally lifted from Cahirciveen to County Sligo!
-
Possibly an ERG (Bournemouth) wagon. Clear Plastic (acetate?) body on die-cast chassis https://www.binnsroad.co.uk/railways/erg/index.html ERG was a component an kit supplier/manufacturer, introducing plastic Rex kits in the 50s/60s, the owner appears to have retired/gone out of business in the early 1970s, may have sold the stock to Beatties and other retailers. The model shop in Monk Place Phibsboro stocked the kits, I remember looking at an open wagon with a clear plastic body and a metal chassis but it was beyond my budget at the time.
-
A lot was tied up with money & politics in particular the Irish Question or "killing Home Rule with kindness". The Balfour Government spent a lot of money in the 1890s building Light Railways and other Public Works in poorer areas to keep the Liberals and Irish Parliamentary Party out of Government. The Glenties and Killybegs Branches appear to have been locally promoted lines largely financed by Government Grants with £1000 in Baronial Guaranteed capital. There appear to have been proposals to extend the Glenties branch line to Ardara into the 1920s it would have been difficult to raise the capital locally or justify further Government Grants particularly under a Liberal Government that had secured Irish Parliamentary Party support. The WLWR line North of Tuam and GSWR "Kerry Branches" are further examples of railways funded by Government Grants The Clifden and Burtonport Lines were definite Government schemes took as direct a route as possible through remote country to their destination and avoided coastal populated areas the actual "Congested Districts" the railways were intended to support. In more prosperous inland counties railways were mainly financed by local capital sometimes with a Baronial Guarantee the 19th Century equivalent of a modern private public partnership where the ratepayers sometimes guaranteed a 5% dividend on capital and were responsible for making up operational losses, which lead to a lot of ratepayer resentment towards companies like the Cavan & Leitrim where extensions to Rooskey and the Arigna mines were blocked by ratepayer opposition. Another factor was that the railways were territorial, the GNR(I) Carrickmacross Branch blocked the MGWR extending northbound from Kingscourt to Armagh and potentially Cookstown and over the BNCR to Portrush. The SLNCR existed as an independent railway (buffer state?) to allow the GNR to compete with the MGWR/GSR/CIE for traffic from Sligo and the West of Ireland without invading each others territory, one of the explanations for the gap in the rail system between Sligo & Bundoran. In a lot of places the railways were content for drovers and carters to deliver to a railhead rather than finance or build a branch line, the MGWR had a depot and carter in Loughrea for many years before the local gentry raised the capital to build the Loughrea and Attymon Light Railway.
-
There were several narrow gauge Roadside Tramway and Light Railway schemes linking the villages and towns across the plains of North Galway and Central Roscommon to the Broad Gauge at Dromad, Roscommon and Woodlawn stations. The Roscommon Central Light Railway (Dromad-Strokestown-Roscommon with a branch from Strokestown to Carrick on Shannon------The Longford and Strokestown Tramway-----The Roscommon and Mount Bellew Steam Tramway-----The Woodlawn, Mount Bellew and Mount Talbot Tramway. The Roscommon Central promoters appear to have been serious the Light Railway application to the Privy Council failing on a technicality despite having appointed a contractor, Grand Jury support for a Baronial Guarantee. Dromad-Roscommon-Mountbellew was incorporated in various Ulster and Connaght Light Railway schemes for a continuous 3' gauge railway from Newry to Galway city and Connemara.
-
I think the Class 66 EMD Model JT42CUR introduced 1998 have a later (more reliable) version of the EMD 710 engine and more significantly are heavier with 'self steering bogies' https://writebetter.io/examples/radial+self-steering+bogies/ . Self Steering Bogies were introduced during the mid late 1990s on American high horsepower freight locos such as the EMD SD70Mac and EG Dash 9-44CW to reduce wear and adhesion on curves a single SD70 or Dash 9-44 was expected to do the work of 1-2 earlier 6 axle locos such as SD40-2. The 201s are EMD Model JT42 HCW JT---Twin cab 42---EMD loco type H--head end power C- 6 axle version W Standard to 5'6" gauge The CUR suffix on the Class 66 JT42CUR likely to be C-6 axle version U meter to 5'6" gauge bogies R---Radial bogie?
-
Its an interesting topic, while many of Rice's schemes were fictitious or freelance in concept, the majority of the responses have looked to the prototype for examples. A lot depends of what you want out of a layout and the available space, its sometimes its easier to fit a OO gauge double tracked main layout into a smaller space than a finescale single tracked terminus. One concept could be a compact Cyril Freezer style double tracked layout with two stations (one a through terminus of Junction) and short 3-4 coach trains based on Irish Main Line practice, each line with its distinct architectural style and character Pre-DART Dublin suburban with a simplified model of Dunlaoire, Seapoint or Blackrock or pre-CTC Cork Line with its distinct sky signals and double pole runs Hazlehatch, or Sallins as center of interest and Straffan, the Midland with the Royal Canal on the climb from North Wall to Clonsilla, Cork-Cobh with its riverside running, wet cuttings bridges and small halts had more in common with a rustic branch line than a busy suburban. The might of been are almost countless from the early Railway Mania schemes to build Trunk Lines from Dublin to Valencia, Dublin to Enniskillen, rival Dublin-Belfast schemes, to the last days of Empire with the "All Red Route" from the United Kingdom to Canada and perhaps overland to the East via Belmullet to the more humble such as the Mullingar and Ballymahon Tramway, plans to revive and extend the Parsonstown and Portumna to Loughrea and an extension of the Dublin and Blessington to Holywood and across the Wicklow Gap to Glendalough and Rathdrum.
-
GNR built coaches that passed to the UTA?
Mayner replied to Lambeg man's question in Questions & Answers
Masonite is a US trade name for Tempered Hardboard, which would have fitted in with wartime & GNR(I) economy measures. Michael Baker described the relatively poor condition of the bodywork on recently withdrawn ex-GNR coaches in an early 1970s magazine article or book on CIE. The GNR(I) appears to have used softwood framing in combination with hardboard paneling during and possibly following the War which would have lead to the relatively short life of modern GNR coaching stock. Its possible the GSR re-paneled a pair of C&L Narrow Gauge coaches with a similar material in the late 1930s, the re-paneled bodies were not fit for the Leitrim weather the material was described as compressed cardboard. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masonite. -
I have been using battery RC on the garden railway for several years, the main advantage is reliability in operation no problems with poor power conductivity outdoors and eliminating the need for wiring. The main issues issue are the "Cottage Industry" nature of railway battery RC manufacture since Aristocraft ceased manufacture in 2013 and relatively short battery life. Aristocraft manufactured the "Crest" battery RC system which was basically the "standard" with a range of transmitters, receivers, batteries and switchgear for American outline battery RC. The 'cottage industry" manufacturers are basically at the mercy of the component manufacturers, which can be challenging if you are trying to standardise on transmitter (Throttle/Hand Held controller) and receivers. (decoders in DCC Terms). I began using RCS an Australian https://www.rcs-rc.com/ manufacture about 7 years ago and currently have 8 battery powered RC locos with 6 different receiver types and 5 Transmitters of 4 different types as earlier transmitter and receivers became obsolete and were no longer available. I use twin 7.2V 1600mh/a NiMH racing car battery packs in locos which were generally good for 1 hour running when fully charged, but have had to replace battery packs after 2-3 years as they batterys struggle to hold a charge or get a train home. I am likely to stick with Analog track power for my kit and scratch built 4mm Irish locos when they are not on the workbench or in the display case
-
PRE-GROUPING AND GSR COACHES IN THE CIE ERA FOR MODELLERS
Mayner replied to jhb171achill's topic in General Chat
The most striking things is the introduction of the Irish Pullman cars so soon after the end of the Civil War and formation of the GSR and the involvement of the Free State Government (Tourism), Pullman Company, Railways and Shipping companies to promote tourism in the newly established Irish Free State. Its possible that MGWR and GSWR senior management may have been involved in the project in the lead up to the Amalgamation and 1924 establishment of the GSR With the GSR Chairman and several Senior Officers (financial and operating) were drawn from the MGWR the Pullman Cars almost appear to be a Midland rather than a GSWR initiative which fitted in with the Midland's almost Patrician approach with a high standard of 1st Class Passenger accommodation on trains like the Galway Mails and rather spartan 3rd Class accommodation. The GSWR and the GSR also operated a "Tourist Train" made up of modern (GSWR) side corridor bogies coaches hauled by highly polished 400 Class 4-6-0s. While "modern" GSWR/early GSR coaches with low running boards and individual compartment doors look antiquated compared to flush sided Stanier and Bredin coaches, they are not dissimilar to contemporary Midland and LMS coaches which were considered pretty much state of the art during the early 1920s. -
Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive
Mayner replied to Glenderg's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
The big skyscape and the neat intensively worked farms definitely has a Dutch, north German look to it. I was struck by the intense nature of dairy farming and prosperity along the fertile coastal strip between Kilkee and Lahinch in contrast to North Clare when I visited Ireland in 2018 not as I remembered it as a teenager on holidays in the 70s. Though it was good to see Moyasta other remains of a railway that had become barely relevant by the 1950s -
I always liked Cahirciveen mainly because of its compact nature and scenic location with a lot of trackwork crammed in between the level crossing and the high ground at the Valencia end of the station. I am surprised that Jim Harrison or Iain Rice did not come up with a West Country, Welsh, Scottish version's. Cahirciveen certainly had elements of Tor Point or Craig about it with the station hemmed in between the sea wall with the town as a scenic background, the line to Valencia Harbour could be treated as staging or a fictitious goods only "Harbour Branch". I suppose I could do a Rice and use Cahirciveen as the inspiration for an EM or P4 light railway station and harbour branch some place in South West Scotland, the Llýn Peninsula or remote part of the East Anglian coast. .
-
I spent a year in Scotland about 30 years ago and spent most of my spare time exploring the country and railway system including the West Highland, including travelling from Glasgow to Forth William and Mallaig by rail and driving from Stirling. Its quite an experience making the journey at this time of year, I once took a day trip from Stirling to Crianlarich out by Callander and home via Lough Tay and Perth to "see the snow" people were out skiing in the valley below Lough Tay, I managed to home safely just before a sudden thaw that disrupted road and rail communication in the Central Lowlands knocking out the Stirling-Perth Main Line for the best part of When I lived in London some work colleagues would take the "Sleeper" on a Friday evening to Rannoch Station for a weekend in the great outdoors before returning to work refreshed on a Monday morning Its nice to see that the Bridge of Orchy station and the trains appear to be relatively unchanged from 1993!
-
Ernies Massive Irish 1930's to 2005 Photo Archive
Mayner replied to Glenderg's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
The "Disreputable Wagon" is probably an ex GSWR or ex GNR replacement for recently withdrawn ex MGWR Meat Vans used for 'perishable" traffic, its possible the fitted "Green H Vans" replaced pre-amalgamation stock for this traffic. There is a 1964 H C Casserley photo of B149 leading the UP Night Mail through Ballysodare the train is made up of a Black & Tan 4w Heating and Luggage Van, what appears to be an ex-GSWR Bogie Coach and Bogie Mail Van in late 1950s green followed by three fitted H Vans (no goods brake). Ex-MGWR Meat Vans appear to have been use possibly for fish traffic from Sligo and Ballina into the mid/late 1950s 655 is probably acting as station pilot making up or breaking down a Mail Train. There are similar 1956 (F W Shuttleworth) photos of 659 shunting the Sligo Mail which included a MGWR 6w Mail Van & Meat Van dating from the 1880s sandwiched between a pair of recently introduced Bullied 4w Passenger Vans. The Shuttleworth photos inspired me to produce kits of CIE & MGWR non-passenger stock. -
For many years Studio Scale Models have produced high quality kits of both the GSWR & MGWR Convertible wagons. SSM also produce the timber underframe version of the GSWR/GSR/GNR(I)/CIE open wagon MGWR Standard Covered Wagon on left GSWR version on right. These kits are reasonably simple to assemble using superglue or epoxy for modellers who have not mastered soldering
-
Great collection, a great example of what could be achieved with MTK and DC kits and scratchbuilding in plasticard, that Bombay EMU is definitely fits into the something completely different category I have a soft spot for the older Southern Region EMUs & DEMUs from weekend day trips around London during the late 80s the sheer variety of stock and level of intensity of operation was an eye opener for someone who thought the lines out of Connolly Station were busy
-
Just the two photos in my 17th Feb post, the modern addition appears to have been built in what used to be a walled garden. Its nice to see that the original farm yard and buildings appear largely un-altered. Longford County Council should have the planning/building consent application including drawings for the new extension and alterations to the existing buildings. The model was intended to be part of a 'view blocker" to a fiddle yard, the rear of the building is freelance and has since been butchered into two low relief buildings on Keadue my Irish 3' Gauge layout Inspired by "Gilligan's" I built the model about 30 years ago using Wills Scenic materials, but still need to complete 'bed in' the models on the current layout/diorama.