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I'm not doing this at all but I think there should be a sticky for how to do that! Great explanation for those who have never done it!

I'm absolutely with you on that one. I just wish we would get semi-reliable data on the demand. If the model was good the collectors usually take a rake of them (I have some tendencies in that direction too). How would we advertise such an offering to the IT-reluctant punters/get the prepay?

If you know how to get this started, you'd have my backing for a independent or MM-associated 121 depending on how advanced the prep for that is, or an A or C (multiple).

I know it seems irksome that people have different desires but this was initiated to see if there any potential for any model. Granted I think it has to boil down to what people want most of or it would not be economically viable

I had posted a request for a flat "No" if people didn't want to, in order to give a better feel for the mood of the populace. Kinda like a general election in Ireland, 25% voter turnout! It looks like we pretty stuck with about 80 interested modelers albeit some did want to potentially buy more the one model

Are the really only 108 modelers who frequent the site during the period of one week or so?

D I know that some others like the more modern livery where the white lining shows off the black and orange to effect but I really like the Supertrain livery. There's something plain but strong about it at the same time

Not sure about that one, Seamus. We didn't see that on the recent stats. BosKonay should know?

Agree with you both. He has a proven track record. It natural for people to be hesitant with change, but once beneficial engenders a lot of new trust. If there's anyone or a limited group on the site capable of taking this forward, I'm prepared to back at least one or more models and several have expressed that. The problem is see with MM is not the quality of the product but the timeline for delivery which is generally sequential clearing out one model before being out the next. I understand why this us but it means that produced desirable past items are not readily available to purchase nor the awaited models like the presently awaited 121.

So you're saying that the smallest amount that could be invested for a manufacturer to start something is STG150,000, correct? and all the number are based off of that?

Beautiful seeing the series form the chassis, to body shell, painted and on the track. Very nice

Let it pan out, GD. This poll is open for another 5 days. Some of the modelers do not frequent this site on a daily basis like you and I. That being said, if they don't visit before then end of the poll, they're unlikely to support this project either. Either way, this has been set in motion and will provide some data on what has been discussed on several threads before. Even if not another modeler voted yes to this, it means that there is a group who would likely also put money up for a rake of 6-7 of a desirable smaller model such as a bubble or beet or Tara at 30-35eu per wagon=210eu per punter with a production run of 300-350 wagons……

Interesting! This is a point I had been meaning to ask, i.e. whether the motors were geared and sufficiently wound to achieve they top speed of the real locomotive. For instance 141 might be scaled to top out at 70 mph but a 071 would be differently geared or have additional copper wound on the engine core to enable a scale top speed of 90 mph Noel, you ran the locomotive without load which might limit its speed even further:confused: That being said, I do not know how much load a rake of coaches or freight would provide (if much at all, especially on the level) since they'd be the correct scale size but not necessarily the correct scale mass/weight

Oh, Lord help us!

Nice job, BK. Not sure how much work that was but that's a great resource:tumbsup:

I think many are waiting on the 121 (including me). I think nobody would seriously want to crowd-fund another 121 unless PM declared his had been shelved indefinitely, in which case the crowd might want to approach PM to go ahead as the funded model. I guess I am hoping for the 121 as soon as it can come out and another model to boot (I suspect many who have "chosen" the A on here may be thinking along these lines)

I don't think anyone on here intends this to be an insult to Paddy Murphy. You could easily argue that many of us would not be modeling Irish outline save for the hugely increased interest due to MM models. This was intended to potentially add some more diversity or has been discussed earlier, could be used to bring to the MM 121 onto the market sooner, which might then make way for an other model either through MM or crowd-funded, possibly A class, or whatever.

Yes, Rich. I agree you'd need the whole rake. Problem with D&M is the price so if people are having a potential problem here, well that's a harder pill to swallow. If its your modeling period and you have to have them that's one thing. Personally, I think they're beautiful but I cannot justify spending that much on them

Oops, been skewing that statistic a little GD as I viewed the new comments that were posted pretty regularly. But yes, have seen all the usual suspects on the thread but that's not a lot of people. Based on BK's? recent stats there are hundreds of people on this site. I'm presuming (Mod, correct me if I'm wrong) but only members can vote on this poll? I notice when I'm on the site that there are several members but many more guests at any one time. They may be modelers that do not happen to be members or casual passers-by, I'm not sure. I'd need to refer back to those stats on that thread. This is not a general election for another rainbow coalition:rolleyes: If you want to have the possibility of a new model you've got to vote, folks. Even if its no, please still let us know that you're not up for this. You don't have to post any comments. So far with 21 possibles, we'd only have to buy 25 models each so I'm still optimistic

Why would that many run together? Was it for safety? i.e. there would be one train on the line rather than six separate locomotives? Each still had to be operated independently?

Nice post, GD. I hear all your points and agree that there must be a huge amount of work to be put in to ensure that the model is somethng that people will be happy with in the end. Personally I don't really like the D/E but that being siad I might well buy one if they became available even if I hadn't put money upfront for it and if excess was available. I know some of the issues raised about the SF A class was the slow running characteristics over points etc. and wonder if a DCC with a stay alive would be capable of delivering that or not in the D/E. I presume your doing these with 3-D printing? But yes, we would need a few more than you could produce. With regard to the four things you list I think that some of them are already met in terms of the financial backing being the upfront payments and you would deliver the models to the prepaid buyers unless you're producing excess. It goes without say that the manufacturer would be very important and probably your first point is the most important of all. Cast your vote on the poll with your suggestions for the D/E and who knows...... PS nice looking cab there

I think that is what is happening with these posts to gauge interest? People are suggesting two or three on here and hopefully there will be some predominant items recurrently mentioned, which I guess would be what we potentially run with if it went ahead

Kiernan, I love this layout. VERY very nice!

What I'd prepay for and relative level of interest in each model A class (one, probably more) C class (one) 121 (at least two if not produced by MM) 800 Class steam (three, since it is a difficult kit I couldn't model yet)

anyone know who does these for CD?