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No harm in that except that the existing threads on DCC should probably be placed there:dig:

OK, Rich. We understand that there are models everyone desires, I would love all of the above in rtr too but to keep this on thread for a locomotive that you'd be willing to pay up front for, what would you like to see?

Glenderg, can you please explain your reasons for your psychiatric diagnosis and why a D or E would be a more reasonable choice? Any model that would be potentially chosen would need to have wide appeal, so everyone is hankering after a D or E class? Remember, not everyone will kit build for whatever reasons, and it may be that, (say) an A would not appeal to those modelers who've already built one. It was suggested on this thread due to the twitter on the site regarding the lack of an excellent A class model in terms of running chracteristics as well as an accurate detailed bodyshell. May be we should do a poll on what people are actually after in their hearts, "' if only they would make a ......". Maybe one of two choices for what they would want (i.e. put money up front for, right now if needed), tally the results and see if any one model on there has maybe 500 wishers

Thanks for support, BK

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Yes I think these are all very good points. Of course these two ideas do not need to be mutually exclusive but for all of those waiting for the 121 to come into production that might realistically help speed it along. Incidentally those of you have your finger on the pulse, can you hypothesize why sales have slowed down. I was not aware of this since I have been purchasing lots and stuff recently,my main problem being lack of availability of the items that I need.

Thanks, war bonnet. If anyone else has any interest in this, please get on this thread or forever hold your peace about availability of more good quality Irish outline models

We could do a straw poll on the site jut to gauge interest " if you're undecided/not prepared to put your money up front, DO NOT pledge any interest". We would have to decide on a model, so far an A seems to be generating most interest. I think the idea of having several liveries as suggested makes it possible as the appeal would be wider. And of course someone who is knowledgeable enough to review the CAD very closely prior to tooling etc. Maybe the CAD could be put-on the site (or a separate site for the project) for crowd approval so help ensure QA to everyone's liking. I like the idea of doing it through PM too if that's possible. Also this would also be a technically a "not-for-profit" model so actually it should cost less than a standard rtr model.

Good morning everybody. I think this has all been discussed before in another thread. I would also pay upfront for a model. The thing is I might take two or more models eventually but it will be difficult to pledge for more than one model upfront untill the quality of the motor and quality of the body shell could be seen. I suspect that the reason some people will not want to pay cash up front is because the product is on scene and it is really issue of the policy. Paperwork into model shop and see the model in front of them their wallets tend to loosen up. I'm definitely In the market for an A class, likely several if it was the same quality as MM.

Suddenly a lot more to do ……and enjoy:-bd

Anyone know how they were 'controlled', in the sense that why weren't electronically linked in any way? The third jeep seems to be trying a little harder than the two before it with some significant wheelslip although i'm sure they engineer throttled back and controlled that...

Nice little shed. Not sure if it's prototypical of something in Irish outline but maybe we can get some replies on that?

Been selling for forty years because they were AVAILABLE for 40 years. Yup, we've been through the tooling and mould argument too. One should rarely have a glut of product on the market and NEVER be sold out. It's called not knowing your business...

If you have a loco that is a equipped with a decoder socket, it might be worth swapping one out for a sound decoder to see if you're hooked

Shssssh! Don't mention longer runs on this site. You'll have a plethora reminding you of the economies of scale, the rising costs in China and that its a minority hobby that you just have to pay up for!

I don't know about these wagons, but I had the misfortune of purchasing some Lima HO coaches on eBay advertised as OO. They're noticeably different, by my calculations maybe 30% change in volume or more depending on how you look at the math. Basically they'd be about 14% smaller in each dimension (cubed)…. but the eye can be deceived in many things…….

I was wondering about that. They're going at a fair clip. I though the frame rate was different for a minute, created the illusion of increased speed like in the early B&W movies

What a shame, the money to invest during the Celtic Tiger and no insight for the (now, missed) opportunity:mad:

Ben, you're on a roll today. Another great clip. Really enjoyed that one. Interesting that, prior to cessation of cattle transport by rail, the cattle were still manually 'enticed' to travel rather than being corralled in to the vans, the doors being at predictable distances from each other. Ahh, the Irish way, yet it still seems to be in use fro humans on Japanese rail system. Superb comment

BK is right, but some of the thread has been devoted to how well the decoder will do this. It seems some sound decoders emulate what is happening with the loco well:trains: whereas others don't respond that quickly to what the locomotive is doing (you don't want the sound of a train at low speed if you have already accelerated halfway down the track, nor the squeal of brakes AFTER you've stopped) Other points raised concern manual notching of the engine (the ability of the operator to ask the sound chip to output the engine at high revs .i.e. high tractive effort, even when it is at low speed, e.g the loco is trying to start moving with a heavy train behind, or conversely is at high speed but you want the sound to diminish as it is coasting down a grade) More esoteric points concern the accuracy of the sounds produced for any particular loco, best listen to the gurus on here who have more finely tuned ears than me:disco:.

Shame about the quality, the technology of the time! Interesting look at life only 50 years ago. Interesting mix of As/steam, freight and coaching stock, some Park Royals and laminates, I think.

Looking forward to it, Noel!

I have a number of these coaches from the Bachmann set and coaches sold separately including a number of duplicate running numbers (one of which was in the wrong box when purchased). I'd like to renumber them and was wondering if anybobody knows where I can get transfers to renumber them (green numbers on the eau de nil band) Thanks in advance

Always interested in cheaper when you get a chance to post:tumbsup:

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