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I think ernie Brack has at least one if not several on Flickr. I'll post a link if I find it. Unfortunately there are not that many pictures floating about of the bubble since the orange livery since the livery was earlier, and changed to the ivory within not that many years and less availability of color film. Most of the 'ivory'/covered in cement Mixed with ivory livery I think this is belong to @jhb171achill and has been previously posted on the site

Very interesting photos. The last 7 (I think they're all the same plough van?) seems to be the GS&WR plough which seems to have been in mostly 'original' condition with horizontal boards until '99. It looks like was finally repaneled in metal sheet 2000 ish. I can't recall if it was renumbered into the 252XX series after that but it'd obviously keeping its original GSWR plate. Richie did a nice series of photos @Glendergon one of these, iirc about 2 years ago, ... one ended up in Downpatrick, so must look that up. In action by Joe St. Leger in Midleton

Nope, I'm MIXING my white and orange bubbles as per prototype at a certain point in CIE era

Having seen the various MGWR on Rails through North Kerry, I’m still tempted...

Barytes and Mogul zinc rakes if you’re stuck for ideas? (To be fair I’ve just finally got to read through @jhb171achill Rails thro’ North Kerry and what magnificent pictures of specialist wagons not seen anywhere but on Irish rails, great lineside too) Of course we’ll need the barytes to have the opening doors to allow the JCB to bulldoze the ore Now sales are visible on the IRM site I’d say the orange bubbles have done pretty well considering they were launched last, ivory bubbles having sold out in the order they were presented on the website A through D. E, F packs will sell out I’m sure. Really looking forward to B&I liners, and Bell of course. Well done IRM!

Funny, I looked at the website today but didn’t see anything! Good to see these. Unfortunately, had to respray the last rake and committed to other purchases right now. Might pop down to Marks in Cork tomorrow to see if they have them though. Any update on the 121s, I wonder?

Thanks, Steven. Patrick, I saw the chat window but I wasn’t sure the chat was actually live at that late hour and got the impression you’d respond to the email it requested. First time I’d used it. Sorry about that.

Is the discount pricing only available if you’ve previously ordered something other than the CIE plough? The full price was showing in my cart for any combo of three (including at least one CIE) the other night. Tried to ‘Chat’ but no response email seems to have received to date? Thank you K

What’s date in July?-

I might also be interested in a short rake of these but what exactly is being offered? Worsley typically does scratch building aids, not complete brass kits like JM Designs or SSM. Perhaps an estimate for what ever is being proposed would be helpful? This must be possible in order to estimate a minimum quantity to break even? A photo @jhb171achill might stimulate some further interest making pricing even better? Thanks K

Sounds like the same problem of modeling mesh grilles on Baby GMs etc, mechanical and manufacturing tolerances etc.

Very interesting to see the fertilizer wagons in that film with mesh doors. It seems like they must’ve entered the service cfor some period of time to be called Long Kesh wagons.

Nice! Very pragmatic. Thank you!!

It’s probably genuine, you may have got a copy of the Southern Hemisphere edition.

Crikey! No one to run a presumably profitable enterprise? Or was the factory in ill health rather than the owner? Fortunately, I don’t really purchase these products just MM, IRM, JMD and a few others

On walkabout in Ireland, looks like I found internet on the correct day! Great news so I’ll preorder what I committed to on the other thread. May I purchase any three packs (to include at least one CIE) or only one of each style? Thanks! K

Thanks, Jonathan. I’m on the Enerald isle at the mo’ but this is a trip to be postponed to next visit, I guess.

I don't suppose this is open yet correct?

I'm not sure what happened here or what narrative was mis interpreted exactly. I maybe didn't realize how niche the CIE plough would be as a model. It's not just the number of prototypes but also the number of modelers potentially interested in running or displaying models from that period. I know there were only a few ploughs and I understand that no one wants to buy a rake of them which is why I stated regarding laminates ..."even if brakes, mails, PTOs were not viable to be produced with them". If you guys are seriously intending to consider this earlier at some point then I'm very pleased to hear that. I didn't think that might be viable based on the number of modelers, models being produced much later when the cost will be higher etc. I stand corrected as you'll know the economics of this.. Anyway, these were just my thoughts, and weren't meant to derogate in any way. K

Yup! Anything produced from this era I would buy since my only other resource would be to buy from another manufacturer who has been heavily criticized by modelers and manufacturers alike at various times. If a high quality laminate 1449-, 1429- or Park Royals appeared I would buy a rake maybe 10 of each, even if brakes, mails, PTOs were not viable to be produced with them, (Jon, I know they didn't run in rakes). They'd look superb among other stock. One or two would have to be resprayed if necessary into a silver livery such as a 1429-. AEC railcars, I would see myself buying three or four pretty much like I have each of the MM 141 in B'n'T and Supertrain plus spares to renumber to more of the class. Again I'd be interested in earlier liveried A classes if/when they are produced. However, if we're having a discussion on at the viability of a CIE plough van, I don;t know if this would ever be realized. It's a shame more limited runs can't be produced like the 111 class locos. Maybe Accurascale sales can be used to subsidize greater variety in the tiny market for Irish models or it's back to resin models, I suppose.

One thing about the timing of this is that some modelers may be on vacation and not see this thread. IRM would have the stats on traffic through the website right now, of course

I am astounded (and very happy) to see this thread. I had supposed that since the average age at IRM Towers is little lower than the average age of the 'typical' modeler that there might be a tendency to a more modern era in production. I purchased 24 ballasts, that remain unused in their boxes, (blasphemy, I know, sorry lads!), not because I am attempted to emulate Wrenneire but principally because I wanted to do my part to get IRM off the ground and not have it fail at the first fence. I just prefer an older period to model, maybe to do with the stock that I remember from my youth in Ireland, although based on a lot of discussion on the site, even earlier periods into the 1950s also, a period that definitely predates me. I had at least intended to convert one rake of twelve ballasts to dolomites at some point. It's unfortunate that each run of wagons has to sell before another can be produced since the models are then no longer available for purchase to new modelers, or on view in a model shop to stimulate interest for potential new modelers. The production of new models in an earlier era may allow 'excess' models to recirculate to new modelers at reasonable cost on the secondary market, which is what would happen to mine if the option of CIE ballasts became available, I suspect. I'm also waiting on CIE ferts, blue Taras, CIE ... "Stay on topic!", Fran interjects I haven't purchased any ploughs so far. Like iarnrod, I will VERY happily commit to a pair of CIE ploughs and a second set of ploughs from one of the eras to support this effort. Sincere thanks for trying to cater to your CIE era supporters. Kevin

Hi Fran, Sorry that wasn’t clearly scripted. I meant that the ploughs didn’t come in CIE style/livery and the orange bubbles cane after the ivory and with only six individual numbers, bauxite Tara’s and more recent version of the Ferts wound seem to indicate a preference for IRM models to be more contemporary. than some modelers K

That’s really very very nice, Richie, as it’s hard to appreciate those center beams on many of the photographs. Richie, I know you have an affinity for some of the rarer and esoteric items that ran on Irish rails, so many of us who are modeling an earlier period are hoping to be included with options e.g. buffers as mentioned earlier@Glenderg. Also earlier liveries/styles which didn’t happen (maybe won’t?) with the plough vans and orange bubbles (but at least we can renunber beyond the six individual numbers supplied) @Warbonnet

Yes. Agree with that . It looks good