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I'm sure you'll have seen the basic description and specs on Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BNCR_Class_N BNCR Class N Type and origin Power type Steam Builder Sharp, Stewart & Co., Manchester (No. 42) NCC, York Road Works, Belfast (No. 16) Build date 1874 (No. 42) 1914 (No. 16) Total produced 2 Specifications Configuration: • Whyte 0-4-0ST • UIC B n2t Gauge 5 ft 3 in (1,600 mm) Driver dia. 4 ft 0 ⁄8 in (1.222 m) Wheelbase 7 ft 9 in (2.36 m) Length 25 ft 3 ⁄8 in (7.70 m) Width 8 ft 4 in (2.54 m) Height 11 ft 11 in (3.63 m) Axle load 13.80 long tons (14.02 t)+ 17.25 long tons (17.53 t) Loco weight 31.05 long tons (31.55 t) Fuel type Coal Fuel capacity 15 long cwt (760 kg) Water cap 600 imp gal (2,700 l; 720 US gal) Boiler pressure 130 psi (896 kPa) Heating surface 661.12 sq ft (61.420 m) • Tubes 590.88 sq ft (54.895 m) • Firebox 70.24 sq ft (6.526 m) Cylinders Two Cylinder size 16 in × 22 in (406 mm × 559 mm) Valve gear Stephenson Loco brake No.42: Hand brake No.16: Steam brake Train brakes None Performance figures Tractive effort 12,707 lbf (56.5 kN) Factor of adh. 5.47 Career Operators BNCR NCC UTA Numbers 16, 42 Nicknames No.16: Donkey Scrapped No.16: 1951 No.42: 1925 The Five Foot Three reference might yield some assistance. I don't have a copy but someone else might ... Scott, W.T. (January 1968). "The Shunting Tanks of York Road". Five Foot Three. 4: 2–10
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Last time I looked the order book was still open on these
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Turns out I do have a copy but the locos are all more recent.You're right, there are not many photos of GNR(I) 2-4-0s. EM Patterson's 1962 book on the GNR(I) has a H class 2-4-0 on the bottom of page X pictorial section. It would be interesting to know the number of your G class loco or see the photo as some of these may have been rebuilt to 4-4-0s and the GNR seems to renumber things seemingly with out any real logic at times
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I prefer the darker shade. Most of these were seen in older black & white photos where they were darker or appeared dark. Lovely kit. Leslie. I'll be needing a pair I would say. Leslie, I think you numbered yours 8588 (below, at Youghal)
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Irish Standard for Clearances to Structures Modelling Dimensions
DiveController replied to eugenepfox's topic in General Chat
Er, if you has stated you had all this info to hand, I'd probably not have bothered to spend time searching for information I thought you might need -
Tony, are you able to post the picture you have of the locomotive? Most likely detailed in Norman Johnston's book on steam locos of the GNR I would have thought but not sure that I have a copy...
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Irish Standard for Clearances to Structures Modelling Dimensions
DiveController replied to eugenepfox's topic in General Chat
Have to agree with Broithe. You can certainly have prototypical distances between your widest model and line side structures provided the is no curve within one model length of the start/end of any line side structure. If there is, then the model will be angled towards that structure on the approach to it and you going to need larger clearances. If you have a very large layout with prototypical curves (doubt few or anyone has this luxury on a model layout) you'll be fine. If not you'll want to run your 201 locomotives and MK3/4 stock round slowly to ensure you have sufficient clearances and then then allow a bit if there is any wobble due to speed/imperfect track. The same can be said for the loading gauge remaining within tunnel entrances etc -
Irish Standard for Clearances to Structures Modelling Dimensions
DiveController replied to eugenepfox's topic in General Chat
Not sure if this is helpful maybe appendix 3 which you could convert to imperial feet and then scale to 4mm About 304.8 mm to a foot http://www.irishrail.ie/media/ie_2018_network_statement_(final_version).pdf This seems to be the standard going forward not sure if it is historically prototypical -
Why did you add that weight?
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The GSWR 10 ton is long overdue!
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I not sure if I am understanding you but once JM Designs churns out the CIE/GSR 650 Class 2-4-0 MGWR Ks kit, John has a 52 Class 4-4-0 and maybe a further Midland locos in the pipeline. Were you planning to leave deposit with him on these? That reminds me.... overlays!
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Belmond - Haul only or push pull?
DiveController replied to Noel's topic in What's happening on the network?
NICE! Where was her her own loco? -
Correct restoration of Railwayana (Lineside Signs)
DiveController replied to DiveController's question in Questions & Answers
Can't comment on the sign but it fits the bill (literally) RAILWAYS CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION ACT 1845 CHAPTER XX. 75. If any person omit to shut and fasten any gate set up at either side of the railway for the accommodation of the owners or occupiers of the adjoining lands as soon as he and the carriage, cattle, or other animals under his care have passed through the same, he shall forfeit for every such offence any sum not exceeding forty shillings. -
Side Corridor composites 2124-2129 (3F, 4T) were the last of the CIE coaching stock to be built on the 60' chassis. The 2130- series composites (1952) were built on the newer 61'6" under frames which became the standard length for almost everything after that time. It's remarkable that the 638A coach was repurposed so many times over 60 years.
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Loading ballast at Lisduff
DiveController replied to Garfield's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
Are there any models of the British hoppers for conversion I wonder? -
Belmond - Haul only or push pull?
DiveController replied to Noel's topic in What's happening on the network?
Scenic observations in one direction and gricing after the locomotive has run around? -
That's GNR(I) , I think?
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Loading ballast at Lisduff
DiveController replied to Garfield's topic in Photos & Videos of the Prototype
Ah, sure that's a fantastic shot. There seem to be few shots on how ballast (or more importantly coal) was loaded onto wagons or tenders. Love those old ballast wagons. They look like the GNR ones but apparently not. So it that a GSWR/GSR/CIE brake wagon or does it have a plough? Thanks for posting that, Patrick. -
Are these designs available somewhere? I have always thought it would good to have access to a resource where modelers would be able to see a series of designs for railway cabins etc and could styles modified to fit various size cabins that belonged to MGWR, WLWR etc
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If you don't get one on the site, they come up from time to time on eBay. There was on last week but probably sold now. You can sell txt others on to the more modern enthusiast. I'm assured the IE period is more popular with modelers (though I'm not sure why...)
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Might be interested in a full kit.. Like that Es more than the Gs to be honest.
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I don't think that the new larger LED marker lights were added until some time in the 90s. The tablet catchers for automated retrieval of the token were out of use decades before but the catchers remained on the locos for a considerable number of years thereafter. If you want to model that CIE era I'd swap the locos. ,There were only three small marker lights originally replaced by four larger LEDS with an additional red in the IE era and preservation thereafter
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Narrow Gauge in the Rockies not quite
DiveController replied to Mayner's topic in US / Canadian Railway Modelling
NO Railway Crossing barriers needed either, so nothing to replace when someone wants to beat the train with only a couple of tons of car -
Scratch built Irish CIE wagons for sale
DiveController replied to David's topic in For Sale or Wanted
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