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NICE! Where was her her own loco?

Can't comment on the sign but it fits the bill (literally) RAILWAYS CLAUSES CONSOLIDATION ACT 1845 CHAPTER XX. 75. If any person omit to shut and fasten any gate set up at either side of the railway for the accommodation of the owners or occupiers of the adjoining lands as soon as he and the carriage, cattle, or other animals under his care have passed through the same, he shall forfeit for every such offence any sum not exceeding forty shillings.

Side Corridor composites 2124-2129 (3F, 4T) were the last of the CIE coaching stock to be built on the 60' chassis. The 2130- series composites (1952) were built on the newer 61'6" under frames which became the standard length for almost everything after that time. It's remarkable that the 638A coach was repurposed so many times over 60 years.

Are there any models of the British hoppers for conversion I wonder?

Scenic observations in one direction and gricing after the locomotive has run around?

That's GNR(I) , I think?

Ah, sure that's a fantastic shot. There seem to be few shots on how ballast (or more importantly coal) was loaded onto wagons or tenders. Love those old ballast wagons. They look like the GNR ones but apparently not. So it that a GSWR/GSR/CIE brake wagon or does it have a plough? Thanks for posting that, Patrick.

Are these designs available somewhere? I have always thought it would good to have access to a resource where modelers would be able to see a series of designs for railway cabins etc and could styles modified to fit various size cabins that belonged to MGWR, WLWR etc

If you don't get one on the site, they come up from time to time on eBay. There was on last week but probably sold now. You can sell txt others on to the more modern enthusiast. I'm assured the IE period is more popular with modelers (though I'm not sure why...)

Might be interested in a full kit.. Like that Es more than the Gs to be honest.

I don't think that the new larger LED marker lights were added until some time in the 90s. The tablet catchers for automated retrieval of the token were out of use decades before but the catchers remained on the locos for a considerable number of years thereafter. If you want to model that CIE era I'd swap the locos. ,There were only three small marker lights originally replaced by four larger LEDS with an additional red in the IE era and preservation thereafter

NO Railway Crossing barriers needed either, so nothing to replace when someone wants to beat the train with only a couple of tons of car

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Are there any track plans/drawings available for prototypical Irish crossings anywhere. I understand there are 6-8 basic points and crossovers in common usage (plus there are others I'm sure)

I was browsing online and there are templates to help built points out there but I haven't found one for 21mm gauge as yet. I'd be happy if even a even a single rtr prototypical (or short fictitious point, like Hornby/Bachmann etc. which are much shorter than prototypical points, like 1st and 2nd radius curves, in general) and 21mm gauge flexitrack. One could built quite a bit with that and work from there. Still looking for someone interested in producing that as are you all. I'm sure

IFM do a 1429- and 1449 - series iirc. They will do then intermittently or maybe to order? Easy to put together but if you want to avoid spraying them and all that then maybe worth the extra money. Sometimes sells the on eBay (helix0_8). Look on Noels threads, he has some of his laminates iirc. I need some too as no-one else does them rtr as far as I know or I'b be buying a rake or three. I forgot that Silverfox do some rtr. this is their rendition of the 1356-71 series CIE built 61'6" Irish coaches of 1953/4 which sat on GSR type bogies. Not entirely sure how well this matches the prototype in length, definitely not width/shape but passes the duck test. Looks better in the B'n'T livery which would suit your era better. Not easy to find a shot on flickr for comparison. NLI is another resource but it's unlikely to the labelled as such. http://silverfoxmodels.co.uk/ir-ie-open-3rd-coach/ I came across a decent shot of one of the exGNR diners but not 402

EDIT: DC kits used to do a 4-wheel heating van in CIE livery (I thought Noel had posted them at one point @Noel )which was not strictly accurate but good on a 2 foot rule. I don’t see it in the website on my mobile device. Link to DC kits https://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/index.php?route=product/category&path=155 JM designs used to have a brass kit of the 4w 'Hooded' Parcel Van and the 4w Heating Van but I doubt they are presently available unless you find one lying about in someone’s attic. @Mayner I think SSM have a BOGIE brake that might suit built earlier by the GSR but lasted into the 70s iirc but not sure that it would heave been on your train or nothttp://www.studio-scale-models.com/BredV.shtml @Weshty and Irish Freight Models intermittently build or have easy plastic kits for some ‘laminates’/brakes. https://www.facebook.com/pg/Irish-Freight-Models-1252098201500518/photos/?tab=album&album_id=1366603860049951&__xts__[0]=68.ARBL_xP4su1WI19LdrcfjOJ4490qOXWx0Fc2LyYlA76Mvd42UyUgSSlQUcwokPwtCcKxKaEA5-tQQfNkYERbwasge9c5CnC708eOXDHDG1fM3ECLDTsSDdmGlaJwPRYid55ojvJ0PuXX1017BEPqAaobqiQjKQ6BtwDSKYQswc3UXQVpoCnhCg&__tn__=-UC-R Ex-Northern don’t know. I’ll post s few links when I get home

THat's the way mine is going right now, Dave. Have you been able to collect on it yet?

Anybody have any news on whether there are any new Peco Bullhead points due for release?

This is a GS&WR one which I believe to be genuine although the red oxide seems to be scarce underneath. However white lead was often used as a paint pigment/antioxidant agent in pain between the 1930s-1960s in particular. The GSWR precedes this but 'modern' pains have been around since the 1860s so who knows? The problem is that it initially looked like this and I stripped off what seems to be a much more current latex type white paint, an attempt to restore the sign no dount. The red, green and white stripped easily with a power washer (I got tired of the wire brush) to reveal a much tougher and more adherent white paint coat seeing the first photo above. I'm not sure if this is a color applied to the sign or a white lead undercoat which would likely bond chemically to the iron resulting in durability and conferring rust resistance. As @jhb171achill states above these were white on black background in the GW&WR era but I'm not sure how long the signs persisted before being replaced. Not likely in the GSR period, I would have thought, did they last through CIE days? And if so were they repainted at some point and into what colors? If there are any photos out there where these can been seen as line side features I'd love to see them

Thanks for the prompt reply, Fran. I can completely understand that a retool could necessitate a price increase. I'm new to 21mm gauge and trying to work out how much work would be involved particularly for a larger layout. Surprised by how much additional work would have to go into re gauging the rolling stock. I expected this to be extensive with the older Limas but thought it would involve little work for newer rolling stock. I'm glad to see several 21mm modelers replied to the thread with great advice but I think it does highlight how difficult it is to model in the true Irish gauge. There has been intermittent criticism of Irish modelers for failing to properly represent their prototypical railways which is somewhat harsh given the challenges involved. I'm going to drop some P4 (or maybe even EM standard) wheel sets into the bubbles just to look at the clearances (if I can source them as John points pout above). @Brendan8056 I may PM you regarding wheel sets in a ballast wagon in case a retool proves not to be commercially feasible going forward. PS @WarbonnetFran, I won't be withdrawing my order for three plough sets and very appreciative of you guys doing the CIE plough in particular. Looking forward to the ferts though!! Ah come on, Jim's like the comic relief when it get all hot and fiery around here .... which isn't infrequent Good advice, and many thanks for the ballast photos, enormously helpful

Knowing your era & focus, Tony, I think we all thought the same as soon as you mentioned 171. Still it'll add variety and I'm sure most of us have an occasional duckling on the shelf. I have one British sound loco (still an intended donor, ... maybe) and one Canadian diesel although everything else is Irish. Black CIE 141 and 181s do come round and if the mood take you you can always swap or or buy and sell on the 171. It is a decent price and you'll get that or more which will buy you a Black and Tan as the mood suits you.

So the CIE ballasts will come with an identical chassis to the IE versions and require modification as above in Brendan's post above? I don't mind doing the CIE ploughs as it's only two vans but a long ballast rake to be modified a above is a whole different deal @Garfield

That looks really well but a lot of work for a rake of 12 or more. Beautiful job, though. I'd plan on P4 wheel sets if I did this, I think to cut down on the time/labor. Thanks a lot for sharing this and the excellent pictures. That's been really helpful! @Brendan8056 The bubble conversion look easier thankfully. Again I have a rake of 12 orange bubbles to potentially convert and another 9 ivory livery to mix in with them for a later timeframe. The axle boxes certainly need a lot of thinning and P4 wheel sets may help make this easier and cut down on time even if it is a little costlier. Patrick, thanks for weighing in on the thread. That explanation was very helpful and important for people to understand why there are difficulties in created a truly 21mm compatible product. If I understand you correctly the proposed CIE ballasts, blue and bauxite Taras and other Project 42 wagons such as the fertilizer wagons should be compatible for drop in P4 wheel sets, correct? @Garfield I am planning on buying rakes of these

Jeez! Really nice. Life is busier, that's for sure and not necessarily a good thing, I'm afraid. Lovely modeling. Irish steam is definitely underrepresented. Is the layout still extant?