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That's a great shot in Supertrain. Many looked like this in the late 60s prior to re-engining. Incidentally an example of the ETH that was discussed above on the buffer beam. Have to agree and be grateful that someone had to foresight to see them preserved. Again, from Brian Flanigan

NIiiiicccee, John. That interior is fantastic. No change of you doing a resin mould of that interior to go with your coaches, I suppose? Superb job! You should try lighting the coach with an LED strip, would really show off the detail

On the baby GMs the MU connection seemed to be a simple affair with a single cable between locomotives (all by the same manufacturer of course). I saw the MU working you referred to with the Black & yellow B233 in multiple with a 181. It had not occurred to me that such MUs occurred, over 2000hp with the more powerful 201 in charge. There must be at least 4 hoses on the 201s bufferbeams, possibly one for GMs, AECs etc, (hence my confusion regarding their purpose)? When re-engined they would have been almost as strong an an A class had been, and much better equipped for heavy freight then when originally put into traffic

One peculiarity for modellers of the C class is that 206 was the first to receive its GM engine in 1969 and B206 was repainted with the waist level band rather than the low band in all other B201s when re-engined (233 and 234 which had been re-engined earlier with Maybach engines, of course) I'd definitely like to see a photo of that if the member or anyone has one

Looking good. Thanks for posting

Great information John and Jon and very interesting. I also noticed that the C class locomotives at one point were equipped only for a vacuum braked train with little to see on the bufferbeam apart from the occasional Electric Train Heating connection as you described above. At other times (and this seems to be later in in their careers mostly in B'n'T) they seem to have multiple hoses right and left on the bufferbeam consistent with air braking and reservoirs etc. I wonder if the C were equipped with train air brakes when they received their new engines which brought them from only 550hp to about 1100hp. Also present on B233 in Black with yellow ends which had been re-engined with the 1200hp Maybach I haven't seen this on the A class (except of course 029sa which was the only one with airbrakes)

That's amazing, Anthony! Beautiful work stock and layout Incidentally, Rebekah got back to me in her usual prompt fashion and they're researching new motors for anything not delivered yet including the 'U'. I'm happy to wait for this loco. Great video! Really enjoyed that.

Leslie, replied to your email. K

Possibly a Monday morning in Italy? (it probably happened on other days of the week too) All the snails should have the left hand wing uppermost rather than on the bottom. All of these look wrong. The (correct) flying snail would be the same on both sides as the coaches ran in both directions. However, on tenders the upper wing of the snail always pointed forward to the locomotive. All of these snails would only be correct in only one position own this set, and that is in the RIGHT hand side of the tender

Were you planning to use the excess strip or just cut it to the length required for one coach? The only downside I see is the size of the 3xAA batteries which is bulky. Might certainly have an application in lighting buildings or platforms where the box could be concealed though

It would probably be cheaper (and not too hard but a little time commitment required) to lay a closed foam underlay for noise reduction and ballast the track using PVA glue when you have decided on a final layout. Playing around with the design for a while may be helpful to ensure it continues to stimulate your interest and enjoyment first.

I decided to start a new thread rather than continue to discuss the C Class on the very informative thread started by jhb on the A Class Metrovicks here; Liveries, headlights and wipers were discussed here http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/5384-Symphony-in-quot-A-quot-July-1975-Drogheda/page6 I realize that not every one may have a copy of the excellent but now somewhat rare® book by Barry Carse on Irish Metro-Vick Diesels (Colourpoint, 1996) but for those that do or know, can you please comment the following; There is a silver connection on the yellow bufferbeam of C203 in black livery in November 1968 (p36). This is described to be for train heating with certain coaches 1) Waas this peculiar to C203 alone or did other C/201 class locomotives have this connection? 2) Did C class locomotives supply HEP to the train? 3) Electric or steam heating? 4) Which 'certain coaches' did it supply heating to? Thanks, K

Yes, quite correct. It's 1981 in Supertrain and 233 had its GM engine installed the previous year. No porthole rear on the RHS. Just the three:) I doubt that 234 has on a fourth either

Apparently the then new Park Royal coaches were turned out in 'silver' for a time. Michael Baker's book appears to show a pair of "10' 2" wide unpainted suburban Park Royals" on a Dublin suburban working from Dun Laoghaire in 1956 (Railways Past & present Dublin p34)

You can't post on the site from that phone, Dave. Needs an upgrade;)

Do you happen to know when that photo was taken and if possible would you post it? I thought I had found photos of both 233 and 234 from different sources. In both cases they were in B'n'T livery (which all the other C received after being re-engined with GM engines) and numbered 233 and 234 without the prefix (post 1972). However in both cases these still had their Maybach engines as they did not receive their GM engines until much later than other C's (1980 and 1979 respectively)

Surprising that OOworks haven't yet acted on these threads to rebalance their 'U' for better running. Might get a Stay alive chip whenever I get mine, not a squeak yet. I might shot an email to Rod & Rebekah

Irishrailwayman did a quick tutorial on the the basic method about 4 days ago plus you can use the polystyrene cutters on the thread today if you go that route;)

THat's exactly what I mean. Thanks, Leslie

Are these collections digitized and accessible?

Where did you get Windows 10, Noel? It has become progressively harder to find a full standalone copy of a Windows OS, not just the 'Upgrade" This has been a stumbling block for me, the lack of a track planner for Mac OS. I have a new iMac so I probably need to invest in a Fusion or parallels also.

A few photos would be nice if anyone has some

Not sure how quickly that battery will discharge but a rechargeable would work, I guess, if it dies pretty quickly. Pretty neat!

Oh, understood. Someone I was under the impression there was something else other than what was on the front of the power car. Doh! I presume the gangways just abutted each other when the cars were linked? I'm not sure what prevented these being used with other gangways (sorry I know little of the different gangways that were used)

Which livery? Original IE, Full face IE, Enterprise original , E revised, IC Green etc