GSR 800

A T1 class 4-4-2t was proposed in 1915 at Dundalk for the GNR. Supposed to be a superheated(as built) version of the T class with a superheated boiler the same as that of the U class these locos would have had a tractive effort of 17708 lbs.5 were ordered in 1916 but the shortage of material due to the war delayed construction and lead to them being cancelled in 1919.

Thanks mate. Don't trouble yourself over them. How did you wire the terminus?

Could they use the Mullingar athlone line on emergencies? It's in pretty bad shape after the yard. Their axle load could seriously damage the track. But that's only my opinion.

another great bit of modelling,lighting and all! Looks great running around your layout,well done:-bd

Hi guys I want to know how to wire up sidings and a terminus up to the controllers. There seems to be a few methods with feeders,block wiring etc. going on hols soon so I want to get a bit done before I go.

Ok thanks mate. GVS is looking great:) your top 2 pics aren't showing

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Hi hunslet,if it doesn't cause you any trouble could you post a pic of the terminus throat please?

Definitely,it can cause serious lung damage. One of the few cons of MDF

I have MDF on my layout,I believe it is waterproof,that's what the builder said. Very durable stuff although the shed did need a good vacuuming after(due to the dust) but it seems more sturdy than the rest of the shed!

What's the max amount of coaches?

Could 2 201s pull a large train (eg. 14 -18 coaches for some reason) with a gent behind or the new non stop express or would it be unnecessary? Also how long would the new express rake be?

Would it be worth it though? I mean a good bit of shunting involved and for what? i get what you are saying and maybe if you put a camera a the front of the dot to show up on a screen on the 201(a bit eccentric maybe) and it might work.another idea(but a costly one) to have 2 201s at the front and back. Could they make the Phoenix park tunnel any bigger? Maybe a Belfast Dublin cork route could be worked out as in the 50s with the enterprise. I get that it would take a long time for the train to make the whole journey.

Yep

Well now I am just confused

Apologies Garfield I meant the control cars:facepalm:

Ok I am basing this on a guess the 201s are more powerful than the mk4 DVTs.I get that maintenance would be large but why on earth don't they have more 201s on the main line? It seems to be the most idiotic thing to leave them to rot after they cost I don't know how much but I can take a guess it had a lot of zeros! At least all the money wouldn't be going to waste. they say there is not enough work for them but their are plenty of mk4 DVTs and 22ks running On the mainline. I think that a smaller version of the 201s maybe about the size of a 141 would have been a better idea than those massive machines.

Food on planes and trains are certainly a thing of the past I don't particularly hate the food but me being a tea lover was horrified by its taste. I find the 22ks as a realible service,I have never experienced spainish heat inside however maybe a tiny bit more leg room (only a few inches!) would hardly go to waist. I am not a regular commuter but I think the 26ks have a good enough interior but wil be needing a bit of an overhaul within a few years. I have rarely been on mk4s so I can't say much about them. All I can really say is I like their liveries!

Also I think Irish rail could advertise a bit better. Two people asleep in uncomfortable looking seats and having an imaginary conversation doesn't make me want to board a train. I never said golden age but it was a time when there were fairly new locos and they could still just by the skin on their teeth compete with road transport up until the late 80s when the main roads were a full working service. Certainly their were a lot that could be improved but a lot still has to be done. That's all for now,

And yet on the other side of the channel they have trains doing 100 average regularly? I get the Irish system is not built for that but it just seems daft that we have not been brought up to speed the way we should have. Yes Noel as you said we could have got a bit more from the mk3s and I think an entire DMU fleet idea(which seems to be what's happening ) is daft. Also Irish rail could still have a large freight service if they were willing to keep to a large schedule. CIEs best few years were the 80s and 90s good passenger and freight services and a seemingly modern look on things.

I think Irish rail have sort of rushed this into service. Yes I think it is a good idea and have thought it through but only in the short term,to get it into service ASAP but have not thought about comfort. If they had left it another year and saved up so they would have enough to slightly modify the mk4s to meet high standards. Non stop expresses are usually the premier route with comfort reliability and a sense of safety, which I think Irish rail could do if they really wanted to. Also 2hrs 15? Weren't the 800s recorded doing that? Surely even with the speed restrictions we could bring it down to 2hrs? Although I am not sure as I am not a civil engineer

Hi Jim welcome to the forum.you sound like someone I know also called Jim. I can't really help you out with your question but I will give it a shot. Wouldn't it be logical to refuel and service the loco before washing as it may get oil etc on it although knowing CIE they are not known for doing stuff the way everyone else does. I'm probably wrong but someone will tell you. There are a good few boffins in this forum

Aye Garfield,they be like sirens,luring ya up to the glass case till you can't move from it until you pay up!

Thanks Broithe;)

Could you show some pics of this amazing cleaning machine?