DJ Dangerous Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Just wondering about suspicious looking profiles on the forum. One or two are obviously members with duplicates, but some look like maybe bots or something. This is just one example, but the bot type ones all look the same. What's their agenda? https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/profile/2501-svetlxvv/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 I deal with some of this sort of thing on another forum. There is an interesting trick a few spammers have. They will make an innocuous post, then return a few days later and edit in a spam link. I have a daily ritual of going past the current suspects, to see if they have returned since their 'innocent' post. Usually, a return will be for an edit - then I kill them. It's nice to let them waste their time. As you say, the names often have a 'style' to them. this helps, but it is not proof, until they reveal themselves. A lot of them are probably the same person. Other suspicious moves are filling in the birthday as Jan 1st or today's date (although some people will do this genuinely for 'privacy' reasons - and choosing a slightly posh English name. If they do post, English is not always their first language, so a tactic used is to copy an old post from earlier in a thread and repost those words, so it 'looks real'. They will often post in a thread from the distant past, so that the edited in link will be relevant to the subject. Another thing they do is to sign up twice, or more, and then 'respond' to themselves. Probably 90% of the time, they sign up, don't post anything and never return. There are also genuine people who sign up and read the forum, but never feel it necessary to make an input. IP addresses can be a clue, but again, not conclusive. My other forum currently has 192 'people' online - 10 are real individual members, the other 182 are bots, some of them identify themselves honestly, Bing, etc., they're just harvesting stuff for search purposes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 Likewise with this forum, there may be ten or twenty members online, the rest guests. That's not to suggest any malice, the forum is quite often featured in my search results online when not logged in, and I imagine the same for many others. Interesting trick on the editing of the posts. Probably won't get away with it here because no matter what gets posted, no more how innocuous, it'll get spammed with off topic stuff on tin vans and chiropractors and "when I was young" posts... I must wrack my brain for some more profiles like these. Usually no activity and too many consonants / double consonants in the name, and usually only one of them logged in at any one time. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 Not sure the agenda, other than bots, since every single member joining is manually moderated, so it's pretty pointless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted July 13, 2023 Author Share Posted July 13, 2023 Romance scams? Pick out the lonelist, most pathetic poster, then PM them. "Hi, I'm double-d Svetlana, blah blah blah" ... Or use the PM facility for nefarious purposes, unrelated to the forum, like planning an assasination? Like the London rioters ten or fifteen years ago used BBM to avoid detection. Or as @Broithe says, the plan is to post, then edit in a malicious link, but they see it's pointless with us off-topic-ers and don't bother. Or just to see members forum signatures and harvest personal info? I dunno, just looking for logic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 (edited) I presume a lot of them are what I call 'pretend marketing' and want to show widespread penetration of the links. It's just a bit weak... Some of it is clearly malicious, with intentions to harvest data once a link has been clicked. My other forum is named after the town where it started as a local forum - most of what goes on is local, some is national, some is even international and there is an astronomy thread for the aliens to join in, although I have not seen an IP off the planet yet. Anyway, this does mean that we do get genuine mistakes, with the British habit of renaming places all round the world and lazily not picking a new name, so we get people innocently wanting you to use their motor repair services in Australia or hairdressers in Virginia, for example. And it is also the name of a breed of dog, so we get a few of them from all over the place (the owners, not the dogs, as far as I know), they could stay, as we also have 'real' owners, but they rarely do, if they're from 'outside'. We do, as with this forum, have genuine members outside the obvious area and I can see the IP addresses used, so somebody new, posting from Vietnam or the Philippines, etc, would be looked at suspiciously, but they could just be on holiday. I like there to be a clear contravention before I kill them. Spammers is just one problem - we have had some seriously weird real people - feuds have developed to the point of police intervention several times. Threats have included physical violence, bombings and arson. We have had people whose 'sport' is to pick fights. Some spammers will put their links in their profiles and signatures, too. There is another 'clever' thing that I've seen a few times when an edit has occurred. I call them "white links". The poster will edit in the link at the end of the post, but change the text colour to white, so that it doesn't show in the post, but it will be found by the cursor, should that hover over it. Whether that is to maybe get an innocent person to click the hidden link out of vague interest, or to 'show' that it has been posted somewhere and survived, I don't know. It all seems a bit quieter here, but that may be down to @BosKonay doing a sweep most mornings..? Edited July 13, 2023 by Broithe 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branchline121 Posted July 14, 2023 Share Posted July 14, 2023 Scary stuff nonetheless that spammers could penetrate forums as niche as this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted July 15, 2023 Share Posted July 15, 2023 They can try but they don’t get in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted July 15, 2023 Author Share Posted July 15, 2023 30 minutes ago, BosKonay said: They can try but they don’t get in. You hear them knockin'... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spudfan Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 You mean to say that you are not all young, single, good looking females here? I thought we were communicating in code. My day is ruined now. Whoever heard of grown men talking about model trains on the internet? 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted July 18, 2023 Author Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 minutes ago, spudfan said: You mean to say that you are not all young, single, good looking females here? I thought we were communicating in code. My day is ruined now. Whoever heard of grown men talking about model trains on the internet? That's motorboating that you're thinking of. We don't go in for any backdoor shenanigans, here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted July 21, 2023 Share Posted July 21, 2023 (edited) Amusingly, and demonstrating how the web really is an actual web, the famed Andy York, who is, by geographical coincidence, a member of my other forum, tipped me off about a dodgy new member, who seemed to be very similar to someone who had caused issues over on RMweb. His suspicions turned out to be correct and a death warrant was executed, before any harm could be done. In a way, it's a bit reassuring, it was our first visitor of a risqué nature, all the others have been just inept 'marketing' for streaming sites and IT equipment purveyors in far-off lands. I had wondered if we just weren't attractive enough?. Edited July 21, 2023 by Broithe 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERW1 Posted February 12 Share Posted February 12 On 13/7/2023 at 2:47 PM, BosKonay said: Not sure the agenda, other than bots, since every single member joining is manually moderated, so it's pretty pointless Is that why I got a “1 month later” notification for one month since setting up my account, the same day my account was verified? Like, within 3 hours of each other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted March 26 Author Share Posted March 26 Slightly off-topic but the closest match I could find... Who the Hell has been stalking my profile here on the forum??? 3 1 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ironroad Posted March 27 Share Posted March 27 Wow, and there are only 1,597 members. Suggests a lot of head scratching as to who this guy is. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted March 27 Author Share Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Ironroad said: Wow, and there are only 1,597 members. Suggests a lot of head scratching as to who this guy is. I don't know whether it's fame or infamy... But I love it! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darius43 Posted March 28 Share Posted March 28 Infamy, Infamy. They’ve all got it infamy. Cheers Darius 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 12 hours ago, Darius43 said: Infamy, Infamy. They’ve all got it infamy. Cheers Darius Rest in peace, aul' Kenneth Williams! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishrailways52 Posted April 18 Share Posted April 18 On 26/3/2024 at 10:37 PM, DJ Dangerous said: Slightly off-topic but the closest match I could find... Who the Hell has been stalking my profile here on the forum??? probably when you changed your profile picture. one minioute. super Quin sosages where what people knew. then all of a sudden. who is this lad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted April 19 Author Share Posted April 19 On 18/4/2024 at 10:10 PM, irishrailways52 said: probably when you changed your profile picture. one minioute. super Quin sosages where what people knew. then all of a sudden. who is this lad. So nobody likes Superquinn sausages enough??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERW1 Posted May 11 Share Posted May 11 Talking to @Metrovik today and he said he was very much thrown when the it was changed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 On 26/3/2024 at 10:37 PM, DJ Dangerous said: Slightly off-topic but the closest match I could find... Who the Hell has been stalking my profile here on the forum??? Me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERW1 Posted May 25 Share Posted May 25 JHB, don't forget about that court case... max 3 profile visits per hour, per member. We don't want a repeat of the RMWeb incident... (mutters darkly) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted May 26 Author Share Posted May 26 On 11/5/2024 at 7:46 PM, LNERW1 said: Talking to @Metrovik today and he said he was very much thrown when the it was changed. I have an even better one ready but need to re-size and polish it up a bit, first, forum is missing automatic re-sizing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 On 25/5/2024 at 9:27 AM, LNERW1 said: .... We don't want a repeat of the RMWeb incident... (mutters darkly) "Entire lives, irreparably damaged!!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LNERW1 Posted June 5 Share Posted June 5 It wasn’t JHB’s fault, now- the courts were biased! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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