Kirley Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 1. What PLASSER & THEURER stock do IE & NIR have? 2. What models are available? 3. Are they all HO and do they look out of scale when used along with OO scale? Any guidance would be appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 700 - Track Recording Car 703 - regulator 704 - regulator 705 - scrapped 706 - scrapped 707 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Kildare 708 - regulator 710 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy 711 - withdrawn, at Ennis 713 - preserved, at Downpatrick 714 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy 716 - sleeper positioner??? 721 - Inspection Car 722 - Inspection Car 723 - Inspection Car 726 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Limerick Junction (hedge cutter) 729 - scrapped 730 - scrapped 733 - scrapped 734 - rebuilt as sandite vehicle 735 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise 736 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise 737 - scrapped 738 - tamper 739 - tamper 740 - tamper 741 - tamper 742 - tamper 743 - tamper 750 - tamper 776 - relaying gantries 778 - relaying gantries 790 - MPV 800 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Depot, Portlaoise (rail grinder) My list. Probably incomplete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Noel Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 . . .Are they all HO and do they look out of scale when used along with OO scale? The only models I am aware of are HO and look they looked out of scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 http://www.britanniapacific.co.uk Not strictly Irish but several can be made to work and all OO I have an NIR APT. Will find the link to the Italian brass kit maker.. Otherwise poke Glenderg. He makes a few yello bits Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Are there any drawings of the older tampers ? Make an interesting if rather complex scratch building project Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 http://www.britanniapacific.co.uk Not strictly Irish but several can be made to work and all OO I have an NIR APT. Will find the link to the Italian brass kit maker.. Otherwise poke Glenderg. He makes a few yello bits Found your link Stephen; http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/2129-NIR-Plasser-K-355-APT The Tamper on the britanniapacific Site, is it similar to Tampers on this Island? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I must update that thread to add the photos of the finished kit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 A man with a shovel back in the day. And he wasn't even wearing yellow socks..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 A man with a shovel back in the day. And he wasn't even wearing yellow socks..... I was friendly with a plate layer as a teenager, he used to be a farm worker that I knew, We walked many miles on the line , chatting, They developed a great gait, being able to swing the special wedge sledge in one hand as he walked by without breaking his stride .over the other shoulder he carried a fishplate spanner. no shovel though , that required a bunch of lads ! but compared to a tamper ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Kieran, You'll need to register here to get full details. Not automated, but worth the wait. http://www.ontrackplant.com/sightings-of/ireland or http://www.ontrackplant.com/sightings-of/northern-ireland Not many are 00, the bachmann tamper in particular looking well below even H0 scale to be fair. More like 1:100 almost compared with a 1:76 model. The brittania pacific model is really very close to the Irish prototype, but the roof needs some revision, along with the addition of pneumatic hoses etc, a job you'd tackle with ease. It's the best resin casting I've ever come across, really is top of the line production. If I can dig out photos of the one I irish-ised, I'll post them later. http://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/shop/track_machines_tampers_overhead_catenery_infrastructure/clockwork_ideas_and_tamping_machines/plasser_08_16_c80rt_c100_rt_tamping_machine.php The other ones available are the Veissman tamper - really looks superb, closest to an Irish vehicle is 742 (don't hold me to that, I'll check later. 742 at Kildare PW, 4/4/15 by Kieran Marshall, on Flickr Lastly, if some of the younger members on here want to see what and early "Netscape" type website from about 20 years ago looks like, its Linea Models in Italy. http://www.lineamodel.it/benvenuti_in_lineamodel.htm the kits are top of the range H0, but pricey. the APT model is is €500. They have other per way stuff, but that site is giving me a headache. HTH. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ttc0169 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm delighted with my Viessmann model Kieran, Although it's HO scale as can be seen from this photo it is always used during a perway possession of the track so there are never OO gauge trains nearby when it's working. Richie is correct in saying that its closest match would be IE tamper 742. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Richie is correct in saying that its closest match would be IE tamper 742. Cheers Noel! She looks stunning on the layout btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 jhb171achill Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Having seen it working, it's an amazing beast in action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 The brittania pacific model is really very close to the Irish prototype, but the roof needs some revision, along with the addition of pneumatic hoses etc, a job you'd tackle with ease. It's the best resin casting I've ever come across, really is top of the line production. If I can dig out photos of the one I irish-ised, I'll post them later. http://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/shop/track_machines_tampers_overhead_catenery_infrastructure/clockwork_ideas_and_tamping_machines/plasser_08_16_c80rt_c100_rt_tamping_machine.php R. Thanks Richie, on the DCKits site they mention 2 models, the Plasser 08-16 C80RT and C100-RT Tamping Machine. Which one is closest to one to the Irish prototype? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 I'm delighted with my Viessmann model Kieran,Although it's HO scale as can be seen from this photo it is always used during a perway possession of the track so there are never OO gauge trains nearby when it's working. Richie is correct in saying that its closest match would be IE tamper 742. Thanks Noel, it's some beast! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Thanks Richie, on the DCKits site they mention 2 models, the Plasser 08-16 C80RT and C100-RT Tamping Machine. Which one is closest to one to the Irish prototype? The only difference between the two is a ballast cleaning plough, minor details, that come etched which you can use, or not. Plasser 08-16 C80RT is the one. I'll dig out some photos for you. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Kieran, Here are some prototype photos of 750 (not mine, First is Fred Dean's, forgot to note copyright holders of the other three) And after I did some butchery to the Brittania Pacific model. I may have over-egged it on the decal front..... Richie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted February 3, 2016 Author Share Posted February 3, 2016 Thanks Richie, nice job on the 07-16 Tamper. It seems only the next series, 08-16 Tamper is available in kit form now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Glenderg Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 Thanks Richie, nice job on the 07-16 Tamper. It seems only the next series, 08-16 Tamper is available in kit form now. Sorry Kieran, that's a pity, but I just notice that if you filled in one of the gangway crosswalk openings, you'd have vehicle IE 742, or as close as. It appears to be the same designation. Defo going to invest in a kit. R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Couple of videos of the Veisseman in action on Amiens St [video=youtube;WNn-USD0WTk] Shes small but not as bad as the Bachmann tamper - which is massively underscale (even for HO) Edited February 4, 2016 by BosKonay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Noel Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Couple of videos of the Veisseman in action on Amiens St [video=youtube;WNn-USD0WTk] Shes small but not as bad as the Bachmann tamper - which is massively underscale (even for HO) Wow that's just mad brilliant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thanks for sharing Stephen, she's an under scale all singing, all dancing beast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 BosKonay Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Thanks for sharing Stephen, she's an under scale all singing, all dancing beast. Oh she is that - well worth the investment tho, in play value alone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ttc0169 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Oh she is that - well worth the investment tho' date=' in play value alone [/quote'] I'll second that Stephen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 enniscorthyman Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Very nice machine. Very impressed when I got a look at Noels on the old Tara junction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 700 - Track Recording Car703 - regulator 704 - regulator 705 - scrapped 706 - scrapped 707 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Kildare 708 - regulator 710 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy 711 - withdrawn, at Ennis 713 - preserved, at Downpatrick 714 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy 716 - sleeper positioner??? 721 - Inspection Car 722 - Inspection Car 723 - Inspection Car 726 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Limerick Junction (hedge cutter) 729 - scrapped 730 - scrapped 733 - scrapped 734 - rebuilt as sandite vehicle 735 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise 736 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise 737 - scrapped 738 - tamper 739 - tamper 740 - tamper 741 - tamper 742 - tamper 743 - tamper 750 - tamper 776 - relaying gantries 778 - relaying gantries 790 - MPV 800 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Depot, Portlaoise (rail grinder) My list. Probably incomplete. What ones were around mid 70s to esrly 80s ??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Kirley Posted February 5, 2016 Author Share Posted February 5, 2016 What ones were around mid 70s to esrly 80s ??? The only list I can find is from 2004 extract from Traction & Travel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Junctionmad Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 yes my memory is of the 07 series tampers, that didn't have the continous roof and trailed a rail mounted stability truck when in use Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 Blaine Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 The only list I can find is from 2004 extract from Traction & Travel 710-714 are withdrawn, some are at DCDR 737 is withdrawn,possibly scrapped 728/780 are out of use at Limerick Junction (observed in summer 2015) 770 is only used within Portlaoise PW depot 800 is scrapped Few additions to stock too, notably 751 and 781 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0 ttc0169 Posted February 6, 2016 Share Posted February 6, 2016 Add tamper 744 to that also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Kirley
1. What PLASSER & THEURER stock do IE & NIR have?
2. What models are available?
3. Are they all HO and do they look out of scale when used along with OO scale?
Any guidance would be appreciated.
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