Plasser & theurer

[Kirley]

1. What PLASSER & THEURER stock do IE & NIR have?

2. What models are available?

3. Are they all HO and do they look out of scale when used along with OO scale?

 

Any guidance would be appreciated.

[BosKonay]

700 - Track Recording Car

703 - regulator

704 - regulator

705 - scrapped

706 - scrapped

707 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Kildare

708 - regulator

710 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy

711 - withdrawn, at Ennis

713 - preserved, at Downpatrick

714 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy

716 - sleeper positioner???

721 - Inspection Car

722 - Inspection Car

723 - Inspection Car

726 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Limerick Junction (hedge cutter)

729 - scrapped

730 - scrapped

733 - scrapped

734 - rebuilt as sandite vehicle

735 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise

736 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise

737 - scrapped

738 - tamper

739 - tamper

740 - tamper

741 - tamper

742 - tamper

743 - tamper

750 - tamper

776 - relaying gantries

778 - relaying gantries

790 - MPV

800 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Depot, Portlaoise (rail grinder)

 

 

My list. Probably incomplete.

[Noel]

. . .Are they all HO and do they look out of scale when used along with OO scale?

 

The only models I am aware of are HO and look they looked out of scale.

[BosKonay]

http://www.britanniapacific.co.uk

 

Not strictly Irish but several can be made to work and all OO

 

I have an NIR APT. Will find the link to the Italian brass kit maker..

 

Otherwise poke Glenderg. He makes a few yello bits

[Junctionmad]

Are there any drawings of the older tampers ? Make an interesting if rather complex scratch building project

 

Dave

[Kirley]

http://www.britanniapacific.co.uk

 

Not strictly Irish but several can be made to work and all OO

 

I have an NIR APT. Will find the link to the Italian brass kit maker..

 

Otherwise poke Glenderg. He makes a few yello bits

 

Found your link Stephen;

http://irishrailwaymodeller.com/showthread.php/2129-NIR-Plasser-K-355-APT

 

The Tamper on the britanniapacific Site, is it similar to Tampers on this Island?

[BosKonay]

I must update that thread to add the photos of the finished kit!

[jhb171achill]

A man with a shovel back in the day. And he wasn't even wearing yellow socks.....

[Junctionmad]

A man with a shovel back in the day. And he wasn't even wearing yellow socks.....

 

I was friendly with a plate layer as a teenager, he used to be a farm worker that I knew, We walked many miles on the line , chatting, They developed a great gait, being able to swing the special wedge sledge in one hand as he walked by without breaking his stride .over the other shoulder he carried a fishplate spanner.

 

no shovel though , that required a bunch of lads !

 

but compared to a tamper .......

[Glenderg]

Kieran,

 

You'll need to register here to get full details. Not automated, but worth the wait.

 

http://www.ontrackplant.com/sightings-of/ireland or http://www.ontrackplant.com/sightings-of/northern-ireland

 

Not many are 00, the bachmann tamper in particular looking well below even H0 scale to be fair. More like 1:100 almost compared with a 1:76 model.

 

The brittania pacific model is really very close to the Irish prototype, but the roof needs some revision, along with the addition of pneumatic hoses etc, a job you'd tackle with ease. It's the best resin casting I've ever come across, really is top of the line production. If I can dig out photos of the one I irish-ised, I'll post them later.

 

http://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/shop/track_machines_tampers_overhead_catenery_infrastructure/clockwork_ideas_and_tamping_machines/plasser_08_16_c80rt_c100_rt_tamping_machine.php

 

The other ones available are the Veissman tamper - really looks superb, closest to an Irish vehicle is 742 (don't hold me to that, I'll check later.

 

 

742 at Kildare PW, 4/4/15 by Kieran Marshall, on Flickr

 

Lastly, if some of the younger members on here want to see what and early "Netscape" type website from about 20 years ago looks like, its Linea Models in Italy.

 

http://www.lineamodel.it/benvenuti_in_lineamodel.htm

 

the kits are top of the range H0, but pricey. the APT model is is €500. They have other per way stuff, but that site is giving me a headache.

 

HTH.

 

R.

[ttc0169]

I'm delighted with my Viessmann model Kieran,

Although it's HO scale as can be seen from this photo it is always used during a perway possession of the track so there are never OO gauge trains nearby when it's working.

 

 

 

Richie is correct in saying that its closest match would be IE tamper 742.

[Glenderg]

Richie is correct in saying that its closest match would be IE tamper 742.

 

Cheers Noel! She looks stunning on the layout btw.

[jhb171achill]

Having seen it working, it's an amazing beast in action.

[Kirley]

The brittania pacific model is really very close to the Irish prototype, but the roof needs some revision, along with the addition of pneumatic hoses etc, a job you'd tackle with ease. It's the best resin casting I've ever come across, really is top of the line production. If I can dig out photos of the one I irish-ised, I'll post them later.

 

http://www.dckits-devideos.co.uk/shop/track_machines_tampers_overhead_catenery_infrastructure/clockwork_ideas_and_tamping_machines/plasser_08_16_c80rt_c100_rt_tamping_machine.php

 

 

R.

 

Thanks Richie, on the DCKits site they mention 2 models, the Plasser 08-16 C80RT and C100-RT Tamping Machine. Which one is closest to one to the Irish prototype?

[Kirley]

I'm delighted with my Viessmann model Kieran,

Although it's HO scale as can be seen from this photo it is always used during a perway possession of the track so there are never OO gauge trains nearby when it's working.

 

Richie is correct in saying that its closest match would be IE tamper 742.

 

 

Thanks Noel, it's some beast!

[Glenderg]

Thanks Richie, on the DCKits site they mention 2 models, the Plasser 08-16 C80RT and C100-RT Tamping Machine. Which one is closest to one to the Irish prototype?

 

The only difference between the two is a ballast cleaning plough, minor details, that come etched which you can use, or not. Plasser 08-16 C80RT is the one. I'll dig out some photos for you.

 

R.

[Glenderg]

Kieran,

 

Here are some prototype photos of 750 (not mine, First is Fred Dean's, forgot to note copyright holders of the other three)

 

 

 

 

 

And after I did some butchery to the Brittania Pacific model. I may have over-egged it on the decal front.....

 

 

 

 

Richie.

[Kirley]

Thanks Richie, nice job on the 07-16 Tamper. It seems only the next series, 08-16 Tamper is available in kit form now.

[Glenderg]

Thanks Richie, nice job on the 07-16 Tamper. It seems only the next series, 08-16 Tamper is available in kit form now.

 

Sorry Kieran, that's a pity, but I just notice that if you filled in one of the gangway crosswalk openings, you'd have vehicle IE 742, or as close as. It appears to be the same designation. Defo going to invest in a kit.

 

R.

[BosKonay]

Couple of videos of the Veisseman in action on Amiens St

 

 

[video=youtube;WNn-USD0WTk]

 

Shes small but not as bad as the Bachmann tamper - which is massively underscale (even for HO)

Edited February 4, 2016 by BosKonay

[Noel]

Couple of videos of the Veisseman in action on Amiens St

 

 

[video=youtube;WNn-USD0WTk]

 

Shes small but not as bad as the Bachmann tamper - which is massively underscale (even for HO)

 

Wow that's just mad brilliant.

[Kirley]

Thanks for sharing Stephen, she's an under scale all singing, all dancing beast.

[BosKonay]

Thanks for sharing Stephen, she's an under scale all singing, all dancing beast.

 

Oh she is that - well worth the investment tho, in play value alone

[ttc0169]

Oh she is that - well worth the investment tho' date=' in play value alone [/quote']

 

I'll second that Stephen.

[enniscorthyman]

Very nice machine.

Very impressed when I got a look at

Noels on the old Tara junction.

[Junctionmad]

700 - Track Recording Car

703 - regulator

704 - regulator

705 - scrapped

706 - scrapped

707 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Kildare

708 - regulator

710 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy

711 - withdrawn, at Ennis

713 - preserved, at Downpatrick

714 - withdrawn, at Enniscorthy

716 - sleeper positioner???

721 - Inspection Car

722 - Inspection Car

723 - Inspection Car

726 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at Limerick Junction (hedge cutter)

729 - scrapped

730 - scrapped

733 - scrapped

734 - rebuilt as sandite vehicle

735 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise

736 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Deot, Portlaoise

737 - scrapped

738 - tamper

739 - tamper

740 - tamper

741 - tamper

742 - tamper

743 - tamper

750 - tamper

776 - relaying gantries

778 - relaying gantries

790 - MPV

800 - withdrawn, awaiting scrapping at PW Depot, Portlaoise (rail grinder)

 

 

My list. Probably incomplete.

 

What ones were around mid 70s to esrly 80s ???

[Kirley]

What ones were around mid 70s to esrly 80s ???

 

The only list I can find is from 2004 extract from Traction & Travel

 

[Junctionmad]

yes my memory is of the 07 series tampers, that didn't have the continous roof and trailed a rail mounted stability truck when in use

[Blaine]

The only list I can find is from 2004 extract from Traction & Travel

 

710-714 are withdrawn, some are at DCDR

737 is withdrawn,possibly scrapped

728/780 are out of use at Limerick Junction (observed in summer 2015)

770 is only used within Portlaoise PW depot

800 is scrapped

 

Few additions to stock too, notably 751 and 781

[ttc0169]

 

Add tamper 744 to that also.