DJ Dangerous

You see, I've seen your workbench thread, so there is hope for you when it comes to weathering... Fancy doing some weathering in the sun for me???

Maybe I can trade some sun holidays for some nice weathering, so!

So there is hope, for one day!

Do any 1950's Laminate coaches exist in good condition today, for survey purposes?

For me, it'll be another thirty years before I retire from work and start weathering, and that's quite a long time to be looking at shiny stock, thinking "Ah sure only another 29 years and 350 days and I'll start weathering this" ... That's why I think that light factory weathering of some models is a nice option. Those who wan't super-detailed can always weather it much more. After running 073 and 085, the other 071's are just missing something, in comparison.

I'm curious about factory weathering. I notice that Murphy Models released weathered 141's and 071's, but not 201's nor 121's. Is there any reasoning behind that? 073 and 085 are by far my favourite MM 071's, but were they poor sellers or something? IRM thus far haven't released any weathered stock, but maybe with the advent of Noel's favourite PW yellow stock hitting the rails, weathered options may be attractive to some folk? From a buyers perspective, what do people prefer? Personally, and in particular for brighter stock (if somebody some day releases silver Laminates for example), I much prefer stock that's lightly weathered from the factory. Hardcore weatherers can still super-weather the stock even further, and the light factory weathering adds a level of realism to the layouts of the Simpletons like me.

Yeah, that B&I ferry must be a huge project.

Wanted: Extremely Patient Angel Investor with a few hundred grand for tin vans and GSV's...

I think that the downside to the van is that there'd only be one per rake, whereas with the other coaches, you could have four, six, eight or whatever per rake, yet the manufacturer would only need two different moulds to shift those eight coaches. So with a van, one sale per rake per mould, and with the coaches, four sales per rake per mould. Not knocking the vans in any way, i understand the importance of them, just looking at it from a practical point of view. A van might end up costing €150 whereas the coaches might only cost €60. All guess-work, yes, but probably close enough to the mark.

So that summarises quite concisely what modellers could realistically hope for, while at the same time a manufacturer could aim to launch two different coach models in two different liveries without having too much cash tied up for too long?

Any videos of the 121 models running today?

Like this one? https://www.britmodeller.com/forums/index.php?/topic/234944273-an-124-ruslan-in-172-scale-modelsvit-kit-finished/

Don't be silly, it's the B&I ferry first.

Yeah, but those Bachmann green coaches only pop up every now and then, usually for silly money. The grey Bubbles will compliment my mini-rake of single-stripe Cravens.

That's my fault, but there's nothing else out there to run with a grey 121!

Awesome, thank you!

So A46 and A55 would be the two for that particular era?

So the 121's were delivered in grey in December 1960 and January 1961, and lasted at least five odd years before being painted black? Then the 141's were delivered in black in December1962? So a black 141 and a grey 121 running at the same time would have been prototypical? What livery would the A's have had between 1962 and 1966?

Would they then be IRMM coaches instead of IRM or MM?

If Arran were able to introduce a date filter on his site, eg start date and end date, that would make things even easier.

Sadly, most of the RTR stock that you have listed is not current. Tara's, Cravens, Fertilizer wagons, Container Liners, Ballasts etc are NOT available. Private sellers will pop up with things from time to time, usually asking for three times the real value, but as there are no guarantees, they can't be considered "current". Even the Super Train Mk2D's that are available have no EGV's available to match, so they're only borderline current stock. From an RTR perspective, we NEED new coaching stock released for the A's and 121's. That's kind of where this thread was aimed.

The pallet is probably destined for Murphy Models, who'll break it down and ship to distributors.

So all four IR models chosen by IRM ran very late indeed! Excellent choices!

Is that because everything sells too quickly nowadays?