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Sure the Supertrain MK2 Version 2s have to hit the shelves before the 121s, along with the interm 201 livery and Cravens 1509. Long, long way to go for the 121s.

There was one or two Cravens in the CIE livery right up to 1995. One was even part of the ITG Yankee railtour that was double headed by the two NIR 201s. So a Gen van in the later IR livery can cover running from 1987 to 1995 with the CIE livery Cravens. Then you have the old CIE livery GSV what would cover from the 1960s right up till when the last GSV was painted in the IR livery sometime in the early 90s.

Yeah,I don't see the reason for the common user livery on 231 and 233 but I do really like it. The locos just need the above mentioned additions to be fully Enterprise ready. The livery is basically the Enterprise livery without the swirls almost like 8209 when it went around for a few months in the half finished livery. No reason they could have put them in Mk4 livery and used the logos like the 071s have, no colour at all. I find it odd what they did to the common Enterprise fleet livery wise. 206-209 stayed as is, Enterprise to Enterprise. 230 is basically a write off/full rebuild required. 227 and 228 went from Mk4 livery to Enterprise. 231 went Mk4 to CUL and 233 went from Enterprise to CUL. None of the Enterprise locos have any branding or logos applied to them or either do the CUL locos. Would almost have made as much sense painting 231 and 233 in the 071 livery.

It's the same with ICR sets 1-6. They are fully equipped to work on the NIR network as needed and as such they have the new logos applied but they are in grey scale with the tri colour removed.

I tried to buy one that I spotted at the Blackrock show last year and seller said "Sorry no, I'm holding it for someone else and there is loads of interest for it" Then take it off the table and stop teasing people. I was willing to pay 50 over the odds for it as it was brand new, perfect box, never run.

Not according to the Royal Mail and An Post and that's what matters.

Wow, looks great. You're tempting me now.

210 is on sale in Marks for cheaper. €155 delivered.

It was the first MM 201 to sell out Noel. It's very hard to come by. I've only found 2 examples over the past 4 years of looking for it and bought one as a collectors item never to be run because of it's rarity. If you do see a clean boxed example expect to pay over the RRP for it. Only pity is that Murphy released it in the awful revised yellow face livery and not the original.

Was only thinking that to myself over the weekend. Might try and sell some of my North American stuff at the October show to fund more Irish purchases. Don't know how hard it will be to sell on though.

I bought the set for those wondering. Tony PM'ed me on post 8 of this thread. Don't know where that fit's in with others PMs but I never PM'ed him till he contacted me so no off thread dealing was done. I believe mods can check members PMs if anyone thinks there was out of sorts.

Very tasty, the livery scales down well thankfully. Love it.

I'd be one of those. I'm more of a collector, runner. I know I have no model building ability, the only thing I'd even consider to attempt would be one of the SSM 42ft flats, I won't even talk about actually trying to paint. Massive piece of work here BTW.

Hi Tony, I'll offer €450 cash and collected if these are still for sale.

The Mk3 EGVs have alot to power. Lights, aircon, the bogie air suspension system, the pneumatic doors and the kitchen coaches. The electrical system is very unique. The Mk3A set had a different system again an only the modified Mk3 EGVs could power the 3As.

They could have easially got a second if they wanted. Out of the 15 EGVs IE and NIR got their pick of 4 for the Enterprise, 7601 was put aside in Dundalk for Belmond while IE took another from Waterford for the PWD at some stage. That's 6 out of the 15 that was secured from the scrap list.

Something about a creek and paddle comes to mind.

Is 7122 left at Northwall going anywhere or are they going to store it somewhere more secure. I've read that it will be used for parts but how can one coach act as a donor for 10. It's amazed me up till now that they never secured a second EGV as a backup. There is a backup Enterprise EGV and the RPSI have secured 2 Mk1 GSVs and Dutch vans.

216 seems to be acting up alright since it's Belmond repaint. It was ok on the green machine freight runs.

That explains why I saw 233 at Connolly loco shed this morning so. I suspect that was 233's first trip up north since it's overhaul and repaint. The fact they swapped out 216 at Dundalk I suspect 216's TPWS is not active and there was no second driver available to be present in the cab.

Any news or word from the man himself regarding the all new and improved Supertrain Mk2s? The last update on the Murphy site has a rough due date of mid summer and that was posted back in the new year.

He does some nice GCA Tanktainers that are not listed on his site but feature on the rolling banner. I asked him about them about 2 months back and sold be the last 6 he had, they look well and are very regular on the IWT over the past 6 or so years. Some Dana tanktainers would be good for modeling DFDS liners, always to be found lately in the pocket wagons.

The Freightliners were in use during the 80s and very early 90s. Those Transamerican spiders I have never seen on any Irish train ever. Some BLS and Bruhn spiders would nice for modern IWT liners.

It's actually 080 or 077 you'd want to renumber and remove the logos and white stripe. As the supertrains would not work as 071 now is in IE orange now supertrain orange and has LEDs. Given 500 battleship grey 071s sold out in a few months a 252 unit run of the 40th aniversery 071 would fly.

It would be worth it for a run of 252 units. Both of the grey 071 releases of 252 each have more or less sold out everywhere and they were released last.