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The Fry models cannot be sold off, Fingal Co Co are the custodians but the collection belongs to the Irish People. I would say that the models fit for display will be used in the new facility, the un-fit will be held in storage, possibly never to be seen again unless the Council decide to put more money in to restore them for display!! Hi Colin A fantastic idea, one that I had many discussions about, but alas, if you take the current situation on the Fry Models;- A number of years ago in discussion with 'Irish model/ heritage railway fans' and on this thread- if you look back, we asked them to lend support on the Fry Model Cause, of which many said they would get involved. But in the end very little support was given and at the time when we had public comment during the planning process only one 'Irish model/ heritage railway fans' took the time to do so. On that basis I feel your idea would not have enough support in this country! sadly Ireland's Pendon will have to be at the Casino in Malahide- for now!...... Eoin

Yes, and again sadly the proposed facility will display a very small part of the overall collection. Fry also had a monster loco in the 5 or 7.25inch gauge scale! it now resides in the tourist office on Suffolk Street- that should have been included in the plan!! Eoin

and D O'Toole Table;- Kinvara Train Man & Kieran the Soldier Man will be there also.

Some photos of items available at the Christmas Fair this coming Sunday;- S Ryan Table;- D Bracken Table;- P McHugh Table;- ECMtrains table;-

Hi snapper That's called a 'Hold n Fold' tool, looks like ken has inverted the top clamp and used a round bar held by the clamp to do the fold over- Eileen's Emporium stock them and they come in different sizes. Eoin

Hi jhb The spud motor lends it's self to conversion pretty easily, just replace the axles with longer ones, replace the pick-ups, and also the wheels need to be replace as the spud has stepped axles ends- down to 1.5mm! Here are a few photos of the spud set up for a 21mm DART;- Eoin

Yes, these are patterns for making the moulds. Cast white metal sides will be available when the process is complete. Eoin

It is very disappointing to hear the announcement that the running model will now be in Gauge OO scale, it was inevitable I suppose with the way the County Council design team ignored the scale of the Fry Layout and chose a facility & extension not compatible with what would be required. A large Gauge OO layout will be a delight to have but will in no way personify, compare or pay homage to the Fry Layout. This may not matter to the general public, but in my opinion, and others, dilutes and seriously diminishes the impact and essence of what the Fry Model is, or from now on- used to be. There is a belief on the part of the design team that the Gauge O models cannot be restored to running condition (the original Fry Models are restricted from running) or new stock prepared on the basis of the cost- 1.5 million Euro was left by Mr Gaffney, which is now probably over 2 million Euro on deposit, for the restoration of the Fry Model and housing the exhibit in the Casino, of which the majority of this money the Council has decided is going on the building and interior display systems and a very small proportion of the bequeath is going on conservation of the models and the building of the Gauge OO layout. In my opinion this is wrong and has come about because of the lack of understanding of what the Fry Model is, it's scale, and the fact that there was no 'Qualified' person on the design team to represent the Fry Model and to promote the restoration of the models and keep the running layout at Gauge O scale. Also ensuring an adequate proportion of the funds went towards the exhibits restoration and additions in the future. I have not seen the interior design for this project, but on reviewing previous work the appointed interior design company has done- it's minimalistic, with very modern feel, a design company that will spend far more money on interior finishes, display cabinets and display systems than the Council has decided to spend on the actual exhibits. There is also additional money being put into the building project by the Council on behalf of the Irish people! I made several attempts to offer assistance to the Action Team for the Fry Model, and to the County Council, but my assistance was flatly refused and ignored. I did make submission during the planning process and was successful in having a few alterations done to the design- but the main point of 'Scale' was ignored. An opportunity lost, it could have been so much better, though it would have required a larger budget and a lot more visionary thinking and planning on the part of the design team to achieve it. It is great to see the project proceed, although in diminished form. Eoin

I have a difference of opinion on this matter, but it would be wrong to take up issue on this thread as it relates to the Gauge OO layout of which I'm sure Dave will provide a superb layout as per his brief from the design team. I and a few others campaigned for retention of a Gauge O Layout for the new facility but it fell on deaf ears- the councillors are more interested in the kudos of the project than getting an understanding of the scale difference and the significance of the Fry Model Layout display and what it could be into the future. I suggest further debate on the Gauge O matter be carried out on this thread;- Eoin

Hi Horsetan I really only took on the cylinder parts, valve gear, coupler rods, and bake system- though the firebox is something I will discuss with the client and we will see if something needs to be done? Eoin

Hi Ken Thanks for offer of help but alas the loco work is complete and it's gone back to it's crew. Having done this work on 674 I really like this loco design and would very much appreciate any drawing information you wish to impart, I may build one for myself. Your build is looking great- both of them Eoin

Looks great KT, you've been busy Eoin

I should have put the wheels on the rail! Eoin

That's the problem- no walls left in my place! Eoin

Here is a new project for 2019, a Class 800 Gauge 1 built by Brendan Kelly, it's in the workshop for cylinder parts, valve gear, coupler rods, and bake system work. I couldn't resist posting up some photos- it's a beast You'll have to wait until after Christmas to see more.......... Eoin

Hi Paul Building Gauge 1 models is not much different to building any other gauge, except its bigger, a bit easier to handle the parts and more expensive... What are you thinking? Have you a kit? Is it plastic or brass? More info required Eoin

Hi David You only need to use a peened rivet if your chassis is sprung or compensated, your chassis is fixed so I would solder the back of the rivet and the join ensuring the rods are straight first- you may need to file the back of it down after soldering, depending on the clearance to the wheel! Eoin

Soldered the bogie side pattern details today, here are a few photos of the completed work;- They need a bit more cleaning up, some filling and painting and we're ready to make the moulds. The shock and torsion bar will not be moulded, these will be installed after the frames are cast for better detailing of the finished units. The new 8' bogie units and other parts ordered from Dart Castings 3 weeks back have gone astray in the post! so procedures on the laminate kit build has ground to a halt...... Eoin

That's handy!! Eoin

Sad news in the Model DART Workshop- following a slight altercation with the Guinness DART at the Raheny Show, the long running display DART25 retired to the workshop refusing to drive in the forward direction. In the shop on the rolling road it refused to run at all and protested with bellows of smoke and that distinctive whiff of burning, the motor was removed and a post-mortem was carried out at 8.00 this evening;- If you are anyway squeamish now is the time to look away On opening up a small piece of copper fell on the bench! on removal of the brush nuts and close inspection of the brushes- one had a sizeable chunk missing! and spying through the hole one could see where the copper came from- the rim of the commutator (just above the arrow in the pic). We can deduce from this inspection the cause of the failure- the crash into Guinness DART jolted the motor causing one of the worn brushes, loose on its spring, catching the rim of the commutator and chipping the piece off and a piece off the brush in question. This motor has been on the go since 2013, it would run each month at shows, sometimes twice a month for the duration of the show, not to mention when run at home. It has done a fair amount of mileage and probably would have kept going had it not had that bang? It's not dead yet- spares!! Eoin

Hi jhb As far as I know that's it's colour, it's now just the chassis and new bits that require painting. If your free in the morning there is an open time in the MRSI club from 11.00 to 2.00, the Gauge O Guild meeting is on at the same time and the above loco I'm sure will be run, also the T2 from my other post, and other Gauge O stuff...... Eoin

A Kelly/Hamil Gauge O 0-6-2 Tank Loco was in the workshop for coupling rods, wheel weights, and break gear upgrades;- On arrival After the survey & research was carried out a drawing was prepared to cnc the main parts from .5mm nickel silver and Tufnol for the shoes. All done and cleaned up The coupling rods are made up of 3 laminates, a jig was prepared to hold the laminates as they were sweat soldered together. Aluminium rods to appropriate size were inset on the jig board, the parts were covered with 180deg solder, then clamped in the jig, fluxed n heated until all laminations sat flush and soldered throughout. One done and the other doing Rods complete and crankpin bearings being fitted Break gear prepared and ready to go on the chassis A new NS wiper pickup system was installed to recess the boards and give clearance for the break rod gear- the chassis is a bit deeper than it should be and with the original pickup system would have pushed the break gear down pretty close to track level! First run- with a bit of tweaking! Body back on Running well and now off to the owners paint shop....... Eoin

Hi CM Yes, I'll put you on the list Eoin

Hi David That's the 'Dribble Bib' when one gets modelling excited! - but as you say it could double up for recycling spilled Guinness...... Eoin

Hi David I'm ready for this build;- Eoin