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A CIE van but a GSWR stove; on the face of it a mismatch, but as can be seen the railway companies often used outside contractors to buy stoves, just like with signalling components. Therefore, especially in 00 scale, there's no reason to think that a CIE one was substantially - if at all - different. Certainly, any I recall were like that. This level of detail makes this van an absolute must! Maybe increase my order to four or five! For those interested, or as nerd-like obsessed as me, like much in Cultra the exterior livery is wrong in many ways! Do you still pay a decent rate for informers?

There’s a CIE van at Whitehead, but I’m not sure if it still has a stove..... anyone? Plus the NCC one at Downpatrick?

Wouldn't like to be wherever that box was!

Don't you love the spotless coupling! I think that's the plough van that was used in the H blocks in 1980........................ or is that too controversial?

I had it on under my socks..........I promise. But my PTS is now out of date, but don't tell them!

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3. From 1933 a new livery appeared which would eventually cover all stock - a much lighter maroon actually the same as (British) LMS maroon. The Belfast & Co Down seemed to use the same shade, or one virtually indistinguishable.

Our friend Cyril Fry had his models display all three GSR liveries. 1. Dark “crimson lake”, which was a Guinness-like very dark crimsony maroon, so dark it looked almost like a dark brown with a reddish tint. This is very well reproduced on Downpatrick’s ex-GSWR coach 836 (though ignore the cream panels!) After 1925, all carriages both broad and narrow gauge were gradually repainted thus, though Senior recalled a passenger brake to be found around Inchicore bearing an older GSWR livery well into the ‘30s. This was essentially the old GSWR colour applied to everything but without the GSR’s sometime upper cream panels. 2. From the late 1920s, SOME stock was repainted brown and cream, with panels painted and lined as shown below. Most coaches, however, had the upper panels completely cream up to roof level. A thin black line below the windows separated the two. Two thin black lines were just above window level and just below roof level, against the cream background. Despite Fry’s model in this livery being a six-wheeler, I have found no evidence to show anything other than main line bogie stock plus a single example of a six-wheel passenger brake (used in main line trains!) ever carrying this. Anecdotal evidence is that it was a “main line livery” with the majority of all stock (including 6-wheelers, secondary vehicles and narrow gauge) all remaining the dark “lake” colour.

Museum open to the public tomorrow, 7th July. Open from now on (tsunamis, viruses, power cuts and plagues of locusts permitting) six days a week (closed Mondays).

For a major company, details of MGWR liveries for vans and goods vehicles are surprisingly scarce. Some sources suggest guards vans as being standard wagon grey, albeit a much darker shade than in GSR times. It is likely that this WAS the case in later years. However, other sources suggest a “sand” colour. From what I gather, this may be either plain wrong, or possibly confined to maintenance vehicles like plough vans (not used in normal traffic). Many sources suggest green for goods brakes, or brake vans which contain some passenger accommodation. It occurred to me last night that Cyril Fry might be a source of info on this, and here it is. Not everything that Fry did is correct livery-wise, though most is. I am inclined to believe, however, that there’s no reason to think this is inaccurate - a very dark green, darker even than the UTA shade: The plain brown interior, much like loco cab interior, will be noted.

Filth is VERY certainly the thing in the Crossley era - I often wondered if that's why many A and C classes ended up with only the white flash above front cab windows, and no side white band and no "tan" at all! Your weathering looks superb - just like the real thing.

Looking for up to two each of the 4 wheeled HV and the 4 wheeled LV. PM me if you have one available?

Actually, it does. Certainly non-standard / Could it be a one-off?

I’d love to see that yoke in steam! Sadly, my understanding is that it needs very major work including an entire new boiler and probably firebox too.

That's the one, Broithe! Thank you! (Mods.... want to move it or leave it?)

Recently there were posts somewhere about signals, which I can’t find; so - mods - feel free to move this. Attached is a sketch from Senior’s papers of GNR & NCC “somersault” signal dimensions.

A peculiar looking beast indeed! The only chance I can think of is if anyone took ciné of 106 on the last-ever run of them, an IRRS special about February or March in - I think - 1978. I was on it, and managed a cab run (in a CROWDED cab; "health'n'safety", and the poor driver's nerves, be damned!) from Lansdowne Road to Dalkey. I did not have a high-end camera then, and the pics I took are nothing different to those taken by many others with better cameras. Perhaps someone like Walter McGrath or Tony Price was on that trip? If so, and IF they took "moving" images, they will now be with the IRRS. Some old clips of trains on the north Wexford line and the Mallow - Waterford may show them - they were regulars on the latter until the 121s largely displaced them. There are bits of wobbly colour film on youtube here and there covering that.

I understand that he broke the locomotive with his nail that day.....

That really is a lovely layout. Congratulations to the Past Avenue crew!

It's one of Fry's - when I saw this post today I was in the museum and I was actually standing beside the cabinet containing that model when I read it! Very few of his models actually do show rust - and on this one, it is only evident in that one spot.

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Superb!!!

Maybe NIR forgot it too when they repainted the turquoise band over the bumblebee stripes?

Hard to tell in artificial light, but the grey's not bad.... I think there would be a grey band above window level too - the blue right up to the cantrail seems to have appeared when the turquoise band replaced the "bumblebee" mid-waist lining. Very nice job you've done.

I would normally think long and hard before parting with sums much bigger than that for a loco, but I would certainly buy a couple and I am certain that many more here would too. But would he sell 5000? That would be the issue. I think irrespective of whether a re-run ever happens or not, PM owes nobody anything! His models so far have been ground-breaking.