jhb171achill

I absolutely love this layout. Seeing the scenes on it makes me think that there's a photo in there somewhere that Barry and I forgot to put in the last book!!!!!

Ah! Interesting stuff, thanks Tony.

Carriage door open? UTA livery on coach.....enthusiast trip??

You mean made available, Tony? Here is an excellent place. There is much here in the way of modellers resources. Scan, put in here, and retain originals?

Excellent, Tony, many thanks! A treat for those of us who like to just browse photos! But also of great benefit to modellers. Various views down the Market branch would be interesting.

aAAARRRGGGHHH I'll just have to help myself.

Stick a pint on for me there, Roxy.

Happy Christmas and New Year to all here! Here's to 2017 and beyond....!

Click seemed to follow Bullied wherever he went, though I think I heard one time that officially, strictly speaking, he wasn't actually an assistant! When I was researching in the National Railway Museum (UK) in York a few years ago, I came across a treasure trove of his photos of blow-by-blow step-by-step construction of the turf burner. A fascinating archive, showing every stage if its construction and good close ups of many of its internal gubbins, and the bogies, before it was all put together to create the greatest white elephant ever to run on Irish rails! I heard one time that Bullied did not take kindly to criticism, and when it was pointed out to him that the completed thing did not perform as expected - as he claimed it would - his retort to the men in Inchicore was "Well, FIX it!"

Reminds me of Ronnie Barker's "four candles" / "fork handles"!

Generally, the UTA applied a single line along the waist of one inch straw coloured line thinly edged both sides in red to loco hauled coaches. No railcars ever had this lining. They were plain green. But a few loco hauled coaches didn't have lining either. Incidentally, this is not to be confused with the yellow (not straw) and separate red lines used by the RPSI. This was purposely designed (by meself, if truth be told) to look UTA-esque but not be exact, as none of the RPSI's Whitehead set ever ran in UTA livery.

Hahahahaha!!!! Excellent! The late Sullivan Boomer, of the RPSI, and I used to have a great laugh about something that happened some years ago with a computer auto-correct. At the time, he and I were directors of the RPSI and as such we were in constant contact. I got a new computer and went to email him. The computer told me that his name was Sultan Bomber.....

Welcome, modelrailwayman!

Fascinating as always! Happy Christmas to all drivers, maintenance men, fitters, and station staff at Tara Junction!

I love the BR blue era.

Watching that.......wow. I could watch it for ever. Superb layout, so realistic!

Worth going just to see that, irishrailwayman. Though I'm sure there will be other amazing stuff there too. The way technology is going, in a few years we'll be able to have the whole range of stuf that we can get in 00, only in N. And 3D printing will facilitate a lot of it. Someone of my vintage will remember times not that long ago when it looked as if the writing was on the wall for model railways as a hobby, just like stamp and matchbox collecting has all but vanished. Modern technology has brought about a very welcome growing interest. Look at the numbers of people who read tis forum, even if they haven't got layouts. In all reality, when I moved here all my old 00 stuff was sold. I retain a single MM 141, but it's in its box. I have a lot of 009 continental stuff awaiting a time when I can get it all put together again, but to be honest when I see some of the recent releases, I've been doodling to see if there's ANY way I could fit even a terminus / fiddle yard into a modern town house. Doing the lot in N gauge would change the goalposts completely and the 009 would be up for sale and swopped for Provincial N gauge "H" vans, N gauge MM 141s, and N gauge Cravens! Sorry, leslie, not trying to give you attacks of the Screaming Fits, Multiple Conniptions and Heeby Geebys.... I look forward to whatever appears on your layout in Irish outline! What's Irish for Cynwyd?

En route to limerick, by the looks of it..... and is 143 on the evening Rosslare after that?

That looks outstanding - superb scenery!

I was looking at some 1950s and 60s pics last night and by coincidence came across one of B127 which I suspect was about 1963. It had grey buffer beams, so obviously the red was added between then and '65. It had hit a level crossing gate. Maybe they touched up the paint after that and put red on it.

There's a man with a red suit and a sleigh saying "C'mon! I still have to pack!!"

I haven't got comprehensive livery details per livery but what I can say is this: 1. At least one LMS "transplant" simply had its new NCC number roughly painted over its old LMS one, but otherwise ran briefly in rather tired looking LMS livery until repainted UTA green. I don't know its identity but I've seen a picture of it. 2. NCC livery per se had distinct differences from LMS livery in Britain. Leaving aside detail differences on locomotives and wagons for now, and sticking to carriages, in post-war times most NCC coaches newly painted (and there weren't that many!) had no lining if they were of older designs. This also applied to narrow gauge stock. 3. In later NCC period in general, there was no LMS crest applied. Some earlier stock shows no sign of crests either. 4. Lettering was always "LMS NCC" rather than just "LMS" as on British examples. 5. Obviously, standard LMS shade maroon was always used, and where lining was applied it conformed to normal English LMS patterns. 6. It is probable that most of the stuff brought in after the war from England, therefore, was plain maroon with LMS NCC markings and number in standard NCC style, and no lining. I cannot say that there weren't exeptions - there may have been - but before a couple of years had passed, they were being repainted into UTA green as fast as they could anyhow. Hope that's helpful.

Absolutely right, Randall. And in the modelling world, an otherwise excellent model can be spoiled appearance wise for want of basic detail like that. B127 and I think one other B121 had red buffer beams briefly, and thus could accurately be reproduced with either grey or red. It is very much to your credit that you are taking such time and effort over your dad's collection.

For a child of that age, that is a truly excellent idea. That sort of idea is what got me interested in railways over fifty years ago, when I was given a circle of track with a push-along toy engine made by Senior. It had a wooden body painted light grey with drawn-on windows and recalling it now, I reckon it was meant to be a very rudimentary form of one of those brand new grey diesel things made by General Motors, with a cab at one end.....

D R O O L !!!!! Congrats to Leslie, Railtek, the layout.... the standard of Irish stuff is getting SERIOUSLY better every tear. the "H" van has been probably the most glaringly obvious omission. No amount of BR vans of all shapes and sizes look right behind an Irish locomotive! Absolutely superb stuff all round.