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  1. jhb171achill
    It would appear that it was almost definitely 2 + 2, from what I can decipher in the Catacombs. Blue upholstery a one stage, and possibly brown originally.
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    Ah....I see. Can't be sure of numbers but at least one was in orange initially and another in yellow. Roofs of both were black. Chassis on the orange one was body colour. I'm not sure whether the yellow one had a yellow chassis or not - it might have been black. Lettering etc. as shown.
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    Rich, I will consult senior's notes to see what it was like originally, ie on the D & B. What I know myself is confined to the external appearance, namely the livery; a very dark green (lower) and white (upper). Lettering was in shaded gold. Roof probably grey. Internal seating was almost certainly dual direction reversible tram-style seating. I'll try to find out what material the seats were covered in.
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    Leo Do you mean brake vans? All grey until mid sixties. Then, the duckets start getting black areas above and below them, and yellow and black stripes on the protruding bit. This is about the time the roundel is replacing the snail. Brown always had the black bits and stripes, and obviously snails were long gone when brown starts, about 1970. The odd grey van could be seen until about 1973/4.
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    Rich, are you planning to make it in D & B style, CDRJC self propelled, or later (final) state as a CDR trailer?
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    Excellent work! Great layout.
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    That's what I would have thought...
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    Exactly. We hear that today they're putting 3 wagons on instead of 2, and it's running twice a month instead of once. And that's news?????? (Forgive my cynicism........hmm)
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    I would strongly advise a visit. If I recall correctly, it's bus style 2 + 2.
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    Haviong seen them in the flesh (plastic?) at Stillorgan recently (in the company of some very dodgy folks!) I would agree - the standard of detailing is way beyond what any picture suggests.
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    Exactly - black ironwork was also seen on quite a few British wagons, but not here. Naturally, Hornby stuff, in imitating BR, will often have black chassis but as mentioned this is wrong for Ireland. Further to the question above, yes, it was about 1970 that brown started to appear. The only wagons never painted brown were the corrugated opens, not until they were "double stacked" latterly for beet.
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    A note for those modelling the black'n'tan 1960s. No brown wagons. Brown only appeared from about 1970. Needless to say, in brown or grey livery, NO black underframes, ever! ''Tis akin to painting 171 or even an ICR tartan and pink, and no more accurate......
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    Incidentally, you'll notice from the original post that the leading car, in CIE green, still has a GNR navy blue and cream gangway cover.
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    Things like that were extremely rare, in fact exceptional. But they did happen! I only ever saw evidence of combinations like this maybe 2 or 3 times - a bit like the elusive double heading of NIR Hunslets or GMs. Rare, but possible.
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    New laminate coaches and tin vans turned out around 1955-8 were initially unpainted. However, they weathered very badly almost immediately, so by 1959 they were being painted green like everything else. Coaches started being painted black'n'tan in early 1963, after a few experimental ones in '62.
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    The Derry goods tended to be hauled by 70 class or multiple MPD cars. I never heard of GNR cars doing that....? For obvious reasons, MED cars wouldn't have been there either....
  17. jhb171achill
    I'd need to check but I'm pretty certain that all Park Royals entered service in green.
  18. jhb171achill
    I remember seeing a pair of BnT 141s double heading a Westport - Dublin train about 1975, both still in the older livery. Obviously, this involved a white stripe right round. The loco was so filthy - a rare thing then - that the lower orange part on the cabside was completely invisible. A photo would have shown an apparently black loco with just the white bit above. With an A or a C class, the white bit was a sitting target to be covered by filth and gunge!
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    Both AEC and BUT sets could end up trailing all sorts of interesting stuff behind them. I saw a picture of a two car set at one stage (I think on the DSER) with an 1880s six-wheeler behind it!
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    Extremely well deserved, gentlemen.
  21. jhb171achill
    Hope it keeps you seriously busy, Leslie!
  22. jhb171achill
    Thanks for turning up, Wanderer! Also good to meet Weshty of SSM...
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    A masterclass in how to do scenery...
  24. jhb171achill
    I love that full train 70 class set!
  25. jhb171achill
    Looks astounding despite barely being started!!!!!
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