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This is a very unfortunate incident as the driver appears to approach the crossing at relatively low speed and keeps going very slowly onto the crossing before being clipped by the first train. Whenever I see this and I do, it is usually some idiot in a pimped out coupe or a light truck maneuvering between the barriers. Unless the clip has been slowed down I suspect ice was a factor contributing to the judgement error. The first train turns the tractor unit to the left directly into the path of the second train. Unfortunately only seven seconds or less elapse before the impact with the HST which demolishes the truck derailing the first train. There is substantial risk for the driver of the second train which does slow hopefully due to preemptive braking. I am sorry for everyone involved here but if is any good comes out if this, it would be that some other drivers would see this and make more conservative driving decisions. If I had my way this I'd a similar video would be part of drivers education!

Well, if they didn't like driving the 121s engine first they'd really not have liked that GM version with the cab centrally!

Nice job, my man! Jeez you're building the kit and I'd be looking for the RTR

Don't forget to have a Guiness to hand. It's an essential lubricant to help you ease everything apart;)

As long as they stump up the cash!!

Interesting article, not sure why he did not gain prominence in Ireland. This was an amazing feat just several years after the Great Famine when that work was probably very welcome.

I'm not doing this at all but I think there should be a sticky for how to do that! Great explanation for those who have never done it!

I'm absolutely with you on that one. I just wish we would get semi-reliable data on the demand. If the model was good the collectors usually take a rake of them (I have some tendencies in that direction too). How would we advertise such an offering to the IT-reluctant punters/get the prepay?

If you know how to get this started, you'd have my backing for a independent or MM-associated 121 depending on how advanced the prep for that is, or an A or C (multiple).

I know it seems irksome that people have different desires but this was initiated to see if there any potential for any model. Granted I think it has to boil down to what people want most of or it would not be economically viable

I had posted a request for a flat "No" if people didn't want to, in order to give a better feel for the mood of the populace. Kinda like a general election in Ireland, 25% voter turnout! It looks like we pretty stuck with about 80 interested modelers albeit some did want to potentially buy more the one model

Are the really only 108 modelers who frequent the site during the period of one week or so?

D I know that some others like the more modern livery where the white lining shows off the black and orange to effect but I really like the Supertrain livery. There's something plain but strong about it at the same time

Not sure about that one, Seamus. We didn't see that on the recent stats. BosKonay should know?

Agree with you both. He has a proven track record. It natural for people to be hesitant with change, but once beneficial engenders a lot of new trust. If there's anyone or a limited group on the site capable of taking this forward, I'm prepared to back at least one or more models and several have expressed that. The problem is see with MM is not the quality of the product but the timeline for delivery which is generally sequential clearing out one model before being out the next. I understand why this us but it means that produced desirable past items are not readily available to purchase nor the awaited models like the presently awaited 121.

So you're saying that the smallest amount that could be invested for a manufacturer to start something is STG150,000, correct? and all the number are based off of that?

Beautiful seeing the series form the chassis, to body shell, painted and on the track. Very nice

Let it pan out, GD. This poll is open for another 5 days. Some of the modelers do not frequent this site on a daily basis like you and I. That being said, if they don't visit before then end of the poll, they're unlikely to support this project either. Either way, this has been set in motion and will provide some data on what has been discussed on several threads before. Even if not another modeler voted yes to this, it means that there is a group who would likely also put money up for a rake of 6-7 of a desirable smaller model such as a bubble or beet or Tara at 30-35eu per wagon=210eu per punter with a production run of 300-350 wagons……

Interesting! This is a point I had been meaning to ask, i.e. whether the motors were geared and sufficiently wound to achieve they top speed of the real locomotive. For instance 141 might be scaled to top out at 70 mph but a 071 would be differently geared or have additional copper wound on the engine core to enable a scale top speed of 90 mph Noel, you ran the locomotive without load which might limit its speed even further:confused: That being said, I do not know how much load a rake of coaches or freight would provide (if much at all, especially on the level) since they'd be the correct scale size but not necessarily the correct scale mass/weight

Oh, Lord help us!

Nice job, BK. Not sure how much work that was but that's a great resource:tumbsup:

I think many are waiting on the 121 (including me). I think nobody would seriously want to crowd-fund another 121 unless PM declared his had been shelved indefinitely, in which case the crowd might want to approach PM to go ahead as the funded model. I guess I am hoping for the 121 as soon as it can come out and another model to boot (I suspect many who have "chosen" the A on here may be thinking along these lines)

I don't think anyone on here intends this to be an insult to Paddy Murphy. You could easily argue that many of us would not be modeling Irish outline save for the hugely increased interest due to MM models. This was intended to potentially add some more diversity or has been discussed earlier, could be used to bring to the MM 121 onto the market sooner, which might then make way for an other model either through MM or crowd-funded, possibly A class, or whatever.

Yes, Rich. I agree you'd need the whole rake. Problem with D&M is the price so if people are having a potential problem here, well that's a harder pill to swallow. If its your modeling period and you have to have them that's one thing. Personally, I think they're beautiful but I cannot justify spending that much on them

Oops, been skewing that statistic a little GD as I viewed the new comments that were posted pretty regularly. But yes, have seen all the usual suspects on the thread but that's not a lot of people. Based on BK's? recent stats there are hundreds of people on this site. I'm presuming (Mod, correct me if I'm wrong) but only members can vote on this poll? I notice when I'm on the site that there are several members but many more guests at any one time. They may be modelers that do not happen to be members or casual passers-by, I'm not sure. I'd need to refer back to those stats on that thread. This is not a general election for another rainbow coalition:rolleyes: If you want to have the possibility of a new model you've got to vote, folks. Even if its no, please still let us know that you're not up for this. You don't have to post any comments. So far with 21 possibles, we'd only have to buy 25 models each so I'm still optimistic