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@Gordon If I understood correctly you're a retailer thinking of opening/re-opening a model shop to include railway models in Waterford? Expressions of support do not necessarily guarantee you long-term business stability. AS has been said above, model railways alone is unlikely to succeed as a business venture and you probably need quite diverse merchandise to attract sufficient customers to make it a viable proposition; plastic models, railways, Irish railways, RC planes & boats, doll houses etc. You might contact the IRM boys to see whether you both wish to sell any other their products which are growing in popularity. YO should be able to conduct a poll on her and see what level of support you get from Waterford locals, those somewhat further afield, internet sales (if you can compete with the larger retailers). Tuppence etc

Some earlier CIE containers in the background at Broadstone in 1960, reminiscent of British railways BD type container but bearing the flying snail stenciled on horizontal wooden boards

It's possible that the triple stack cages did go on 'lurries' to Carlow.....

Actually that's the number 2 cab depicted so technically that's not a head code. Would appreciate a view of F3CK on the leading cab when time permits please

You can just make our 'ROAD RAIL MERCHANDISE SERVICES" in red on the lower part of the container and doors

@Georgeconna Sorry to hear all that George! Just by way of prevention, bad things coming in threes and all that, microwaves have a HIGH voltage capacitor that will need to be discharged other than by plugging it out! Careful fixing it please, we'd almost be as shocked as you would!

The even older logo in flanges photo above is from the 70s I would think. Also seen on the containers in this thread

Incidentally, does anyone know when the logo change from the plus to the ampersand (B+I to B&I) (seems yo be very late 80s from what I can decipher) The other Cu na Mara just out of interest before I get too far off topic..

It is simply beyond me how cameras can be effectively mounted on roads and motorist penalized by mail and this cannot be achieved at LCs. Bonkers!

Very Cool @Galteemore Wish we had more reference to earlier in the Irish railway scene on the forum

Actually I think the shade of orange is wrong, ... the green too actually .....

It's still hard to believe that the iPhone has been around for just over a decade. I was asked by the probably 20 year old in 'customer service' for an email address; " .......@mac.com", I replied. "How do you spell that?" "Ahem, I beg your pardon, young man, I meant @icloud.com" I guess age like all things is relative

It's the one that you want (the one that you want ) Flu, 'flu, 'flu (honey)

There's also an older CIE container unless that is the side of a Scammell mechanical horse, which it might be (between the legs of the crane behind the B+I). and another B+I or Freightliner in the red livery on the top left (unfortunately partly obscured also)

+1

Its a long time since I looked at these but one of the others has a more sandy/beige/yellow stone but I don't recall exactly

Likely crossing the Rory O' More bridge near Guinness brewery in Dublin ("Robert Daglish Junr. St. Helens Foundry Lancashire")

Same could be said for certain railway models, split decision always on this forum though. Same has happened during genuine natural disasters with people selling $1 bottles of water for $20-40 in a developed and 'civilized' society. Honor, humanity and shame in all in short supply.

It's identical but the stone color and doors might be different...

Drew McDonald et al. book "A Decade of Steam: on CIE in the 1950s" (1974) written 25 years before that official history also refers to the emblem as being 'popularly' known as The Flying Snail

Unfortunately all those lovely pic that used to be on the archive have gone due to Tinypics and Photobucket

More right rudder!! .....come to think of it you didn't actually see it take off, right?

That might not be strictly accurate. The Ammonia trains were hauled by predominantly by A and later 201s but have been also hauled by 141s, 121 pairs, 141/121 pair and 071s 082 Kent Station Cork 2001 082 in Kent with a NET Ammonia set bound for the NET plant on Great Island

Former more usually referred to as the "set of points" logo rather than 4 rails. I'm sure you meant to say 1994-2010 as you referenced in your post prior to that This would seem to make a lot of sense; the idea of a wheel and some variation on a set of wings to indicate strength or speed which is present in so many airline and car manufacturer logos. I never though of the Flying Snail as derogatory but perhaps being a little younger than some but not many on the forum and without the knowledge of the 'flying wheel', that thought never occurred to me until you brought it up. As Old Blarney says it may have been derogatory to some extent in the same way that the Irish in general tend to derogate many things sometimes humorous and maybe sometimes not. I think that criticism of a rather slow system in general may be fair but the Ireland of 70 years ago was also very much a different place at a different pace. The railway served many functions that fostering community, social networks and a sense of unity and nationalism, many of which seem to have declined somewhat in recent decades To that end, regardless of the logos description in the vernacular I think the railway was treasured overall and that embodiment was the flying snail. Now I shudder to think what offense we may have caused in (nick)naming the 'broken wheel' logo And despite a decade and a half of a 'Celtic Tiger' economy never will ....

An Avro Anson EI-AGW (privately owned) for anyone interested in that aircraft that would have accompanied our railway prototypes