Mayner Posted October 28 Posted October 28 (edited) 12 hours ago, Horsetan said: 1000+ isn't small, when you remember that Bachmann batches are 502/504 at a time. A small batch would be more like 250 plus spares (if such support is being made available). 1000 was the minimum batch size when I received quotes in 2020-21 from Accurascale and a number of the Chinese factories for rtr plastic injection molded models. One of the Chinese OEM factories also produces brass rtr models with a minimum order quantity of 500 units in a quote for a 4mm steam outline loco The minimum batch size of 1000 allows for tooling and livery variations, from memory 250 was the minimum number for a particular livery or number variations. Although the minimum batch size was 1000 I would have needed to sell over 2500 at a similar price point to other Irish outline rtr models of a similar nature in order to reach break even point. Kader (Bachmann) significantly increased its minimum order quantity for OEM models following its take over and closure of Sanda Kan (manufacturer for Hornby, Walters and other prominent Model Railway/Railroad brands around 15 years ago. This in turn lead to the emergency of the current generation of Chinese specialist OEM model railway manufacturers, some managed by former Sanda Kan staff to fill the gap/opportunity created by Kader. Its possible that Kader may have reduced its minimum order quantities in order to compete with this new generation of manufacturers. Its unlikely that Kader would have been exactly happy with major former customers like Hornby and Walters successfully finding alternative manufacturers and a new generation of disruptor manufacturers like Rapido and Accurascale emerging eating into its Bachmann US and Bachmann UK market share Edited October 28 by Mayner Quote
GSR 800 Posted Friday at 10:36 Posted Friday at 10:36 (edited) Received the 800 last Friday, been working on her since! Good bit more detail and painting to do, lining needs to be added to the cab sides and tender, window frames need to be put in, number and nameplates need to be fitted. Here's how she looks so far Edited Friday at 10:45 by GSR 800 11 6 Quote
gibbo675 Posted Friday at 12:14 Posted Friday at 12:14 Hi Killian, Just like my railway, unusual handmade prototypes running on track with no ballast ! Gibbo Quote
Galteemore Posted Friday at 12:22 Posted Friday at 12:22 (edited) That’s stunning. You can create a very convincing 800 by chopping around an LMS 4-6-0 but this is another level. Perfectly captured the ‘face’. Hope you are very pleased. BTW station has a nice Sligo look about it Edited Friday at 12:24 by Galteemore 3 Quote
GSR 800 Posted Friday at 13:44 Posted Friday at 13:44 1 hour ago, Galteemore said: That’s stunning. You can create a very convincing 800 by chopping around an LMS 4-6-0 but this is another level. Perfectly captured the ‘face’. Hope you are very pleased. BTW station has a nice Sligo look about it Hi Galteemore, Very happy with her, Killian has truly outdone himself with a wonderful 3d print. I am delaying having to paint the cab and all it's many dials and gauges! Killian is selling the 3d 800 loco and tender body for a very reasonable price The station is an idea for a more central Dublin terminus for the MGWR somewhere around Abbey Street, and the roof is based off Waterloo. This will be part of a larger layout with Mullingar. 1 Quote
Colin R Posted Friday at 14:21 Posted Friday at 14:21 That looks really nice do we know if it would run on 21 mm gauge? Quote
Killian Keane Posted Friday at 17:05 Author Posted Friday at 17:05 Utterly humbling to see what people are able to do with the prints I supply Colin - there should be enough room between the inside faces of the splashers to build to 21mm, but I imagine people building to that standard would prefer the SSM kit 2 Quote
GSR 800 Posted Friday at 17:14 Posted Friday at 17:14 2 hours ago, Colin R said: That looks really nice do we know if it would run on 21 mm gauge? 7 minutes ago, Killian Keane said: Utterly humbling to see what people are able to do with the prints I supply Colin - there should be enough room between the inside faces of the splashers to build to 21mm, but I imagine people building to that standard would prefer the SSM kit Agreed, with the amount of work you'd have to do to the hornby chassis you may as well go for the full kit at that point. 2 Quote
Colin R Posted Friday at 17:36 Posted Friday at 17:36 (edited) Hi Killian It would be very hard not to use the SSM kit, but I would suggest that as the model railway world moves on to 3D printing, it just goes to show what is possible. I have seen some really fantastic composite kits which have brass detail overlays and white metal / lost wax fittings on a 3D print body. I think it was the late Roy Link who tested the waters with that concept. Also we should not forget that at the time 3D printing was not that good compared today as better ployimers etc become available better details can be added. It then becomes the area of the skilled painter to do justice to the print. Please continue to produce these loco shells they are increadible Colin Edited Friday at 17:38 by Colin R 5 1 Quote
GSR 800 Posted Friday at 22:58 Posted Friday at 22:58 5 hours ago, Colin R said: Hi Killian It would be very hard not to use the SSM kit, but I would suggest that as the model railway world moves on to 3D printing, it just goes to show what is possible. I have seen some really fantastic composite kits which have brass detail overlays and white metal / lost wax fittings on a 3D print body. I think it was the late Roy Link who tested the waters with that concept. Also we should not forget that at the time 3D printing was not that good compared today as better ployimers etc become available better details can be added. It then becomes the area of the skilled painter to do justice to the print. Please continue to produce these loco shells they are increadible Colin Hi Colin, I agree thoroughly, the 3d printing space opens up a world of opportunity. I have added separately fitted handrails, smokebox wheel spindle, safety valves, sprung buffers, and a brass coupling hook along with various other bits and bobs to the 3d printed body. I think brass fittings give any model a nice 'pop' It has advanced rapidly indeed 1 Quote
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