A 3d printed 800 class for 00 (and a WLWR goods loco)

[Mayner]

12 hours ago, Horsetan said:

1000+ isn't small, when you remember that Bachmann batches are 502/504 at a time.

A small batch would be more like 250 plus spares (if such support is being made available).

1000 was the minimum batch size when I  received quotes in 2020-21 from Accurascale and a number of the Chinese factories for rtr plastic injection molded models. One of the Chinese OEM factories also produces brass rtr models with a minimum order quantity of 500 units in a quote for a 4mm steam outline loco

The minimum batch size of 1000 allows for tooling and livery variations, from memory 250 was the minimum number for a particular livery or number variations.

Although the minimum batch size was 1000 I would have needed to sell over 2500 at a similar price point to other Irish outline rtr models of a similar nature in order to reach break even point. 

Kader (Bachmann) significantly increased its minimum order quantity for OEM models following its take over and closure of Sanda Kan (manufacturer for Hornby, Walters and other prominent Model Railway/Railroad brands around 15 years ago. This in turn lead to the emergency of the current generation of Chinese specialist OEM model railway manufacturers, some managed by former Sanda Kan staff to fill the gap/opportunity created by Kader.

Its possible that Kader may have reduced its minimum order quantities in order to compete with this new generation of manufacturers.

Its unlikely that Kader would have been exactly happy with major former customers like Hornby and Walters successfully finding alternative manufacturers and a new generation of disruptor manufacturers like Rapido and Accurascale emerging eating into its Bachmann US and Bachmann UK market share

Edited October 28 by Mayner

[GSR 800]

Received the 800 last Friday, been working on her since!

Good bit more detail and painting to do, lining needs to be added to the cab sides and tender, window frames need to be put in, number and nameplates need to be fitted.

Here's how she looks so far

Edited November 8 by GSR 800

[gibbo675]

Hi Killian,

Just like my railway, unusual handmade prototypes running on track with no ballast !

Gibbo

[Galteemore]

That’s stunning. You can create a very convincing 800 by chopping around an LMS 4-6-0 but this is another level. Perfectly captured the ‘face’. Hope you are very pleased. BTW station has a nice Sligo look about it  

Edited November 8 by Galteemore

[GSR 800]

1 hour ago, Galteemore said:

That’s stunning. You can create a very convincing 800 by chopping around an LMS 4-6-0 but this is another level. Perfectly captured the ‘face’. Hope you are very pleased. BTW station has a nice Sligo look about it  

Hi Galteemore,

Very happy with her, Killian has truly outdone himself with a wonderful 3d print. I am delaying having to paint the cab and all it's many dials and gauges!

Killian is selling the 3d 800 loco and tender body for a very reasonable price

The station is an idea for a more central Dublin terminus for the MGWR somewhere around Abbey Street, and the roof is based off Waterloo. This will be part of a larger layout with Mullingar.

 

[Colin R]

That looks really nice do we know if it would run on 21 mm gauge?

[Killian Keane]

Utterly humbling to see what people are able to do with the prints I supply

Colin - there should be enough room between the inside faces of the splashers to build to 21mm, but I imagine people building to that standard would prefer the SSM kit

[GSR 800]

2 hours ago, Colin R said:

That looks really nice do we know if it would run on 21 mm gauge?

 

7 minutes ago, Killian Keane said:

Utterly humbling to see what people are able to do with the prints I supply

Colin - there should be enough room between the inside faces of the splashers to build to 21mm, but I imagine people building to that standard would prefer the SSM kit

Agreed, with the amount of work you'd have to do to the hornby chassis you may as well go for the full kit at that point.

 

[Colin R]

Hi Killian

It would be very hard not to use the SSM kit, but I would suggest that as the model railway world moves on to 3D printing, it just goes to show what is possible.

I have seen some really fantastic  composite kits which have brass detail overlays and white metal / lost wax fittings on a 3D print body. I think it was the late Roy Link who tested the waters with that concept. Also we should not forget that at the time 3D printing was not that good compared today as better ployimers etc become available better details can be added.

It then becomes the area of the skilled painter to do justice to the print.

Please continue to produce these loco shells they are increadible  

Colin

Edited November 8 by Colin R

[GSR 800]

5 hours ago, Colin R said:

Hi Killian

It would be very hard not to use the SSM kit, but I would suggest that as the model railway world moves on to 3D printing, it just goes to show what is possible.

I have seen some really fantastic  composite kits which have brass detail overlays and white metal / lost wax fittings on a 3D print body. I think it was the late Roy Link who tested the waters with that concept. Also we should not forget that at the time 3D printing was not that good compared today as better ployimers etc become available better details can be added.

It then becomes the area of the skilled painter to do justice to the print.

Please continue to produce these loco shells they are increadible  

Colin

Hi Colin,

I agree thoroughly, the 3d printing space opens up a world of opportunity. I have added separately fitted handrails, smokebox wheel spindle, safety valves, sprung buffers, and a brass coupling hook along with various other bits and bobs to the 3d printed body. I think brass fittings give any model a nice 'pop'

It has advanced rapidly indeed

 

[GSR 800]

800 is almost complete. Window frames, name and numberplate added along with the long process of lining. Whistle, Tender chassis and cab interior remain to be finished. Gloss varnish worked nicely to clear the 3d printed window frames. She runs quite nicely on the 6x4 test track, clearing its tight curves with ease.

The green paint is from vinny byrnes, RBS381 Mid Brunswick green in gloss. Took a while to find the right match but I think this is pretty much bang on to my eye.

Edited November 16 by GSR 800

[Galteemore]

Simply beautiful. The 3d work underlying it is very impressive, but you have made all that detail come alive through such diligent finishing work. Stunning loco.

[murphaph]

Fabulous end result! 

[jhb171achill]

On 16/11/2024 at 7:27 AM, GSR 800 said:

800 is almost complete. Window frames, name and numberplate added along with the long process of lining. Whistle, Tender chassis and cab interior remain to be finished. Gloss varnish worked nicely to clear the 3d printed window frames. She runs quite nicely on the 6x4 test track, clearing its tight curves with ease.

The green paint is from vinny byrnes, RBS381 Mid Brunswick green in gloss. Took a while to find the right match but I think this is pretty much bang on to my eye.

That is absolutely magnificent. The finish and lining are exquisite. Fantastic job!

[Westcorkrailway]

On 16/11/2024 at 7:27 AM, GSR 800 said:

800 is almost complete. Window frames, name and numberplate added along with the long process of lining. Whistle, Tender chassis and cab interior remain to be finished. Gloss varnish worked nicely to clear the 3d printed window frames. She runs quite nicely on the 6x4 test track, clearing its tight curves with ease.

The green paint is from vinny byrnes, RBS381 Mid Brunswick green in gloss. Took a while to find the right match but I think this is pretty much bang on to my eye.

Where is this loco stored….asking for a freind