Colin R Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 Hi Guys I am looking for any drawings or details about the locomotives or Rolling stock from the Cork and Muskerry Railway, I have the Oakwood press book by Stanley Jenkins about the lline, but the details about the rolling stock is a bit vague any help in finding out more detail would be welcome. Colin Rainsbury Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkyP Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 I've got dimensioned drawings of the Cork & Muskerry loco 'Blarney' (circa 1919 as I recall) if it's any use I'll dig them out and post up a scan or picture, if I can work out how ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin R Posted July 9, 2019 Author Share Posted July 9, 2019 Yes please I do have one from the Railway Modeller of Blarney, but any other drawing is welcome as sometimes different drawings show up details which are not alway shown on other drawings. Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkyP Posted July 9, 2019 Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) No worries, possibly best to pm copies .. as I suspect someone or other will get arsey about copyright !... I'll try and get a viewable pic or two and send em in a message if that's ok... Just sent in p.m. Edited July 9, 2019 by PorkyP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkyP Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) This is a great little bit of fillum of the line that gives a flavour of it , the railway action doesn't start till about 1min in btw... the staff uniform is very smart back then too! Edited July 10, 2019 by PorkyP 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Galteemore Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Wonderful stuff -thanks for posting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkyP Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 (edited) I think it was Mitchell & Kenyon footage, they did some amazing stuff in the early 1900s kind of period, well worth looking at, I think the BFI has them archived, and a lot are probably on you tube, there's one I saw, a journey from the top deck of a tram , which was fascinating, I must check em out again and see if they did any more on the railways.. Just found the tram footage, it's Belfast 1901 apparently.. Edited July 10, 2019 by PorkyP 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorkyP Posted July 10, 2019 Share Posted July 10, 2019 Oops..but it does show some nice detail of carriage ends and roofs etc ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 From Mr Dean in case you're not aware of this Flickr album 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 Colin GSR diagrams (outline only very little detail) of C&M locos were published a recent edition of New Irish Lines. I can scan a copy of the diagrams if its of help. Apparently the authors have been unable to locate a diagram of the original locos as rebuilt into 4-4-0Ts or the C&L 4-4-0Ts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_McLeod Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Are there any pictures of St Ann's station near Tower, at the entrance to the Hydro farm? I'm interested because I lived on the Hydro site 2000 to 2002. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Colin_McLeod said: Are there any pictures of St Ann's station near Tower, at the entrance to the Hydro farm? I'm interested because I lived on the Hydro site 2000 to 2002. A brief spell on the Google machine found this. A camera shy location on a railway that not a lot has been published about, apart from the aforementioned Oakwood books. Photo doesn't have a source or credit, sites claiming photos of others as their own are a bugbear of mine. https://www.censusconnections.ie/muskerry-light-railway/ Edited December 5, 2019 by minister_for_hardship Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_McLeod Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Thats a great picture. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 There are some in this album which I'm sure you've seen. It might be worthwhile to search other light rail systems to which the CMLR locos were subsequently transferred such as the Schull & Skibbereen. I have the same book but don't recall what happened to the coaching stock, in there somewhere I'm sure. https://transportsofdelight.smugmug.com/RAILWAYS/IRISH-RAILWAYS/NARROW-GAUGE-LOCOMOTIVES/i-rWDjGjR 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 (edited) 10 hours ago, DiveController said: There are some in this album which I'm sure you've seen. It might be worthwhile to search other light rail systems to which the CMLR locos were subsequently transferred such as the Schull & Skibbereen. I have the same book but don't recall what happened to the coaching stock, in there somewhere I'm sure. https://transportsofdelight.smugmug.com/RAILWAYS/IRISH-RAILWAYS/NARROW-GAUGE-LOCOMOTIVES/i-rWDjGjR Only one C&MLR loco survived for reuse elsewhere, on the Schull & Skibbereen (ex No 6/6K "The Muskerry", renumbered 6S), another (sister loco 5/5K "Donoughmore") was supposed to go to the T&DLR section as 9T but that never happened in the end. Some goods wagons ended up on the Cavan & Leitrim, coupled together in rakes as the "hook and eye" couplings weren't compatable with "chopper" couplings, coaches were probably sold off locally and/or scrapped. Not aware any were transferred elsewhere. Edit: two open wagons went to the C&L section as their 210L, 211L in 1936 and used with ex Passage stock. Eight more C&M opens with two Clogher Valley opens arrived from the WCR section in 1957, used once for ballast work and dumped at Ballinamore until final disposal. Were to be renumbered 231L-240L in the C&L series but never carried them. A very small number of coaches survive, to this day, if you know where to look. I'm aware of a wagon somewhere else in a derelict state. Edited December 6, 2019 by minister_for_hardship 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin R Posted December 6, 2019 Author Share Posted December 6, 2019 I don't want to know where they are but I would be interested if you could go and measure them all up and take loads of photos Colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted December 6, 2019 Share Posted December 6, 2019 Best I can do for now. 7 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin R Posted March 20, 2020 Author Share Posted March 20, 2020 Wow that is great thank you, pity you don't have the Heritage groups that could make use of them if they every get sold. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 12 minutes ago, Colin R said: Wow that is great thank you, pity you don't have the Heritage groups that could make use of them if they every get sold. Good for measuring up, anyway! Nice find. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin R Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Good for measuring up, anyway! Nice find. That would be my next question. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 On 7/11/2019 at 2:01 AM, DiveController said: This one is of interest to a wider audience too, as it shows a very nice example of the standard concrete posts and surrounds for the then-quite-modern black enamel standard GSR station nameboards. Some of these concrete jobbies were to be seen in a number of locations well into the 1970s. I wonder if plans exist. It would be nice little thing for 3D printing, especially if a few of us wanted them. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 21, 2020 Share Posted March 21, 2020 I know a man...... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin R Posted March 21, 2020 Author Share Posted March 21, 2020 (edited) I am sure they can be done Colin Edited March 21, 2020 by Colin R 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CensusConnections Posted September 7, 2020 Share Posted September 7, 2020 On 12/5/2019 at 9:49 AM, minister_for_hardship said: A brief spell on the Google machine found this. A camera shy location on a railway that not a lot has been published about, apart from the aforementioned Oakwood books. Photo doesn't have a source or credit, sites claiming photos of others as their own are a bugbear of mine. https://www.censusconnections.ie/muskerry-light-railway/ Hiya - this was me, sorry about the missing credits, I struggled with Wordpress to begin with it and put the info in the wrong place. Originally I had received a photocopy of this picture from a local historian who has been researching St Ann's Hydro for years - I found the online version in this website. http://www.inniscarra.org/gallery/gallery/muskerry_tram_files/page6-1032-full.html I suspect that all the photos come from the National Archives as while I have seen most of these over the years from the historian there are a few with people in them that I have not encountered before. Again, sorry about the missing credits, it was pure ignorance of how bloody Wordpress works more than anything else! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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