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I've no idea if it was preserved, or indeed still in use. I don't know if these photos are any use for your research attempts - one slightly blurred photo of the same vehicle, and several other tanks showing the variety used by IE around the year 2000. Hopefully something of use here.

Ah come on JHB you can do better than that. Surely you can flog that cannon to some of your tourists for hundreds of euro by telling them it was used by Michael Collins as a child…Seriously, some great material there for conversions . That Fowler tank is a good donor for a WT and the Compound for….well, a Compound. Schools class makes a fair VS.

Thanks. I haven’t studied the later tar tanks. Recently I’ve been more focused on modelling than research but I have some other research topics unfinished that I need to get back to. I do have some photos of later fuel and lubricant tanks which survived into the early 2000s. There was much variety, and the numbering is complicated by the use of several different series.

I am assisting a friend in clearing her elderly dad’s house. He’s in a home now and wants to sell all this stuff. Stock is situated in Dublin but can be possibly be delivered in and around the Lisburn / Belfast area too, though probably not till the new year. Postage is extra. Whatever it is that you want posted, I’ll find out the cost and advise you first. No stock has boxes but all are pristine unless otherwise stated. Locos are believed to be fully working unless stated but have not been tested and are sold at buyers risk. All are DC. Prices are in euros, and “lot numbers” will make identification easier. Locos €50 Carriages €20 (6 for €100) Wagons €5 Lot 53 is older, coarser wheels, €5 including two small model cars. Lot 51 is a genuine antique cast metal toy cannon (it works!) which dates from the 1920s. €25 for that.

Anyone know if this barrel and chassis still survives ?

Fantastic post. Very informative. Do you have any info on the post 1965 tanks ?

Can someone let me know who in ireland can help design and build a base board for my son please. I need someone to do all the wiring and laying the track as we are having such difficulty trying to build the layout in our attic and the trains have laid dormant for over two years now, which is a shame. Thanks Adrian 0872869360 D18

Interesting discussion folks! @Dunluce Castle Nelson your green 'Dunseverick Castle' is a masterpiece sir!

Same with Guinness engine. Galteemore snr snr supplied the paint for that !

Which is probably why the Society gave her a lick of paint fairly pronto!

it’s really important to remember that 186 arrived on a railway where daily steam was still a reality - in a filthy and degraded state. I have a lot of sympathy with the York Road crews who decided this was an engine they could make a fuss of!

Good luck @Irishrailwayman with your "re-purposing" of your layout. When I have time, I'll wind everyone up with pictures of Portadown Jct with GERMAN (think of a German Class 50 on a goods at Richhill!) and Southern Railway rolling stock (all electric of course!). Back to the real Thread. The little E Class should serve you very well. Reference has been made by @Galteemore to his build of one - and very nice it is too - that's downstairs in my Railway Room on "Rosses Point" (on 36.75mm track!). Then there's @Northroader's one (on 32mm track). I must place that in the engine shed and take a photie! Almost as bad as pre-Major General Pasley's Big Decision - I have TWO Irish gauges within a couple of feet of each other (and on the SAME railway company!). .......

But that was RPSI livery. It arrived in Whitehead in badly weathered dark grey. The red appendages and black paint are pure NCC / UTA culture! The story was that those in charge of such matters at Whitehead simply didn't like the grey livery.....

186 worked for NIR in black - with various red bits. It was actually SLNCR livery ! 27 spent much of her UT career looking very dowdy in faded SLNC colours. Around 1965 she got the full UT livery makeover and looked very splendid !

Hi Folks, I'm on the hunt for the 071 Black and Silver 0071 if anyone is looking to move one on. Thanks very much.

A photo I took on my first visit to Whitehead. It’s not a prize-winning composition but it’s interesting to compare the two locos which have many features of size and appearance in common. The boilers in particular. I’ve had some super trips behind 186 since then, but 27 has only moved a few hundred yards in all that time. (neither are UTA green, I’m afraid, so well off topic! I think both worked for UTA in black though)

Which is deeply ironic given that Lough Erne is of immense historic value as the last standard gauge steam locomotive built for an Irish railway. 105 doesn’t count !27’s tragedy was that it was always too big or too small for what the RPSI needed. It will almost certainly never run again and should be in Cultra but it’s in such a state now that even cosmetic restoration would be horribly expensive.

Last time I was in Lapland it cost me €20 a dance........

184 will look great when finished. The paint on it is based on a swatch taken from No. 90, which is in turn based on a swatch taken from a model in the Science Museum in London that has original GSWR paint. Always nice to see some inter-society cooperation! We are almost at the point where every 5'3" Irish steam loco will be in restored condition apart from Lough Erne

It always worked perfectly on the hottest and most humid days of summer in those abominable things..............

More like drying my backside after finding an unexpectedly damp seat.

HI All The Next batch of C Rail OO 40ft Hc containers are almost finished . Maersks new all Blue livery and a run of MSC 40ft hcs in Sand Regards Arran

Great collection.

In 90's current state, it was never in any GSWR livery other than plain grey, as when it was rebuilt the lined black was displaced by austerity grey. But in its earlier iterations, the following. 1. As built: the way it is at Downpatrick. Dark olive greeen with light blue, red and yellow linibng. As Castleisland Railway No. 1, it is unkinown what sort of numberplate it had, but once into GSWR ownership, a standard Inchicore one with black background. 2. By the 1880s, same dark olive green but with black and cream lining. It is possible it carried lining only in cream at some stage. 3. After 1901, black lined in red. Numberplate background changed from black to red. 4. After 1915 or so, plain dark grey, including numberplate, which earliest photos of this appear to show just completely painted over. 5. Mid to late 1950s with numberplates removed and painted pale yellow number. 6. Last year or 18 months or so in traffic: appears to be repainted black with same pale yellow number. As you say, jury's out on the black. Personally, I tend not to count liveries applied to locos after being out of use, e.g. as ornaments (Fermoy and Mallow, both of which were completely makey-up livery, as was the hideous, gaudy Isle of Man-esque bright green they painted it up in for the 1996 Inchicore Open Day; or in preservation if unauthentic. Good to see DCDR going back to basics with it! It might be added that the three RPSI locos of CIE / GSR origin - 461, 184 and 186, never carried anything buit plain grey in their current state, though 461 may have been black for a short time before withdrawal. In RPSI operation, all three have carried incorrect black liveries, but 186 is now displayed in correct grey; whereas 184 and 461 both spent periods in CIE lined passenger green just to see what it looked like. 461 still carries this - personally i thought it looked quite well, though the green is not right, and had it carried green it would have had a pale green painted number, not a red numberplate.... A trusted volunteer friend tells me that they are cosmetically doing up 184 in the "enthusiast rail tour" livery that CIE put on it about 1960 while stuill in service - an unusual one-off.