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The MM 201's have a floating center axle and aren't all wheel drive. It is a good thing in one sense as a rigid all wheel drive can sometimes be a bit problematic for anyone modelling in the correct gauge. A lot of BR modellers that model in P4 have had some problems with the Bachmann class 47. Rich,

I have no doubt that these kits will raise the bar again Des. From concept, through design, and the finished product that's a lot of work for a man working on his own. Even more amazing is how quick it has taken. Take a well deserved break during the festive season. Rich,

I think a picture paints a thousand words. Rich,

I've enjoyed this Richie very concise and easy to follow. I'm trawling the internet trying to find a Freightliner Ridemaster bogie to make the non sole bar splasher wagon. Had a look at Colin Craigs but they would need some surgery to produce our type. I doubt Bachmann will make their FFA FGA bogies available and these would also need the same amount of work as the Colin Craig bogies to resemble ours. Rich,

Have a good one Richie, I'll raise a glass to you tonight. Rich,

I thought people would be discussing drugs when I saw the thread title. Rich,

Flickr usually. Just type in the class of loco into the search box and it usually throws up some pics of the classes down through the decades. Fotopic was a great resource for photos, alas it has been shut down for the last few years. It must be an absolute nightmare for manufacturers having production liveried models delivered with little errors when they have done so much hard work on r&d. It's not like PM can stand over the the worker painting and printing the models in China and the man does so much, and has done so much hard work in wanting them right. Rich,

IR locos had orange horns and orange handrails on the bonnet sides above the grilles. These were left black on the models. I certainly remember seeing supertrain babies with orange horns. 164 IR livery 186 IR livery It pays to have a look on the various photo sharing sites. Just because the models are released with black horns it doesn't mean that the prototype had them. The bodyside bonnet handrails on the IE liveried 071 models should be orange. It is an easy fix however and doesn't detract from an already fantastic model. The same goes for the IR liveried babies from MM. Rich,

Yes you are 100% correct. I should have said Dennis Lovett. I must edit my previous post. Rich,

DCC wouldn't have anything to do with the cosmetic changes, and you would still be left with Bo Bo bogies. If (and for the life of me I couldn't imagine why) someone was prepared to do something like trying to dress up a class 33 as an A class and was prepared to ignore anything below the chassis a Heljan class 33 would be a better donor. Rich,

The class 33 is Bo Bo bogie, and the A class is a Co Co bogie. It would be a complete waste of time to be honest. Where did you hear that it was possible, just curious. Rich,

The 201's are MM and not Bachmann Noel. I can't understand where this idea that the 201's are in some way related to Bachmann has come from. It's been discussed here enough times that were weren't. What I will say is that the I reckon the 201's and MK11 aircons were manufactured in the another factory, and the 141-181, Cravens, 071's were manufactured by Sanda Kan. Sanda Kan is owned by Kader Holdings which owns Bachmann and Farish. Still doesn't mean that Bachmann had any involvement in the Craven's and O71's even though they were involved in the 141-181 classes. I remember Dennis Lovett of Bachmann addressing the very subject himself in the past to quash the rumors. Rich,

If you contact PM I'd imagine he will advise you to contact Jim in Marks Models in Hawkins Street. Might be worth ringing Marks Models tomorrow to see if Jim is there. If all else fails PM me and I'll see if I can find the spare one I have lying around somewhere. Rich,

If you can lay your hands on some butanone, put the broken piece in position and brush a tiny bit of the butanone on the area and hold it for a few moments. It will set solid and give no more trouble. With the types of plastic used in the hobby today it's no bad idea to have some butanone in your tool box, because at some time you will need it. If you do go down the butannoe route do it outside or in a well ventilated area. Whatever method you use good luck. Rich,

That looks really good color wise. I like the shade of orange it looks spot on. Rich,

Wagon looks fantastic John, and thanks for the info re the container flats. Rich,

Well done John. I hope I am not dragging this a little off topic but is there any news on the 20 and 22 foot flat's. Rich,

They are Stevie. I remember seeing a 7 coach set in Connolly many years ago it had an EGV, Super Standard, Restaurant, Composite, and 3 Standards in the rake in that order. An 071 was pulling the set, can't remember which member of the class it was, but it was IE orange and black. Rich,

Very informative John and well explained. I am a member of the society myself and I must have a good look through the online library of scalefour news to see if there is any thing 21mm related. I was ready to make a start 2 years ago myself on some test track but unforeseen circumstances got in the way. All being good a start on the test track will begin in the new year and hopefully a proper home for the railway the following year. It's nice to know that there are several experienced and helpful modelers of 21mm scale on here for me to learn from as I progress. Keep the updates coming and once again huge respect for the great work you are doing now. Rich,

Orange. Rich,

Definitely Cravens in that pic. The roofs, water filler pipes are a giveaway as is the tumble dome, and the double white stripes did wrap around the end. I do remember seeing a pic of a Vic Berry MK11 in Inchicore in the IR livery and the windows were picked out in silver. Don't know who long they stayed like that. I can't ever recall seeing them in the IE livery with orange roofs and silver windows. I wonder were the roofs painted black when they got the new IE logos. I stand open to correction if anyone has a pic to say otherwise. Rich,

Bogies are very poor representations of the prototype. I don't think it was ever held in high esteem, it all comes down to what an individual thinks and if he feels, ah it looks like one. SSM do some fine etches to at least make it be able go outside without a bag over it's head. Comparing it to a MM GM is like comparing a Trabant to a Ferrari. Rich,

I think the poll that was open was a good sound board and gave good indications of what people would like to see. The kind of money that is involved when added to the small amount of folks that would participate is way to high for most of us. I can't see a project like this ever getting off the ground, the market is too small. You sound very enthusiastic about the idea of such a project taking place Noel and more power to you, but I just can't see it happening. Rich,

Excellent, well done to the owner and all the staff. Rich,

That pic sums up Rapido Trains. Imagine a 22000 three car set to that standard. The prototype isn't my cup of tea, but if one was produced to that standard I'd cave in and buy one. As I and others have said before, what is wrong with wanting models to that standard. Compare that model to a Silver Fox MK111 push pull set and visualize what these guys could produce if they were to produce a five car set. Rich,