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Everything posted by jhb171achill
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Was only in it twice..... bought two Hornby open wagons, all I could afford. Perfect wagons to stick behind....... a Murphy 121!
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South Dublin Model Railway Exhibition 2019 list of exhibitors
jhb171achill replied to DartStation's topic in What's On?
Couldn’t agree more. Very well done and very many thanks to all concerned. -
I spoke to a former Dundalk Works manager and Senior some years ago, who was friendly with SLNCR management. The very strong probability would have been steam until the mid 60s, then hiring in diesel locos from CIE. It’s likely they’d have bought one or two withdrawn CIE bogies, most likely of ex GSWR designs as they were most sturdy. Had they lasted into the 70s, you’re looking at hired-in CIE diesels and hired-in laminates, possibly one or two ex-UTA coaches of either NCC or GNR origin. CIE wagons would by now be the norm. Into and through the 1980s and 90s, same. Eventually they might buy a couple of cravens and a couple of 141s when these start being withdrawn. A second-hand two-car AEC set might have been a short-term option in the mid 1970s. From 1975 on, probably to today, they’d probably have a G class to shunt their workshop, unless they had outsourced this to Inchicore. Maybe there would be two others there, covered in brambles and off the track, having been bought for spares. If it survived now, I’d be fairly sure they’ve bought the two 2700 “bubble cars” and re-liveried them. Railcar “B” would have seen out the 1970s at least. If the GNR had closed, it would probably now be a line just from Collooney to Manorhamilton.
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Symphony in orange and black..... superb.
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South Dublin Model Railway Exhibition 2019 list of exhibitors
jhb171achill replied to DartStation's topic in What's On?
I'm done with the "Aussie views", Noel! -
South Dublin Model Railway Exhibition 2019 list of exhibitors
jhb171achill replied to DartStation's topic in What's On?
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South Dublin Model Railway Exhibition 2019 list of exhibitors
jhb171achill replied to DartStation's topic in What's On?
I love the stream full of rocks and bits of logs.....a little scenic cameo. Highlights: absolutely what Leslie describes as “Great Northern-ness”. Ballyconnell Road is absolutely the most accurate layout of any prototype I have ever seen. Everything handmade - EVERYTHING - due to non standard scale. The track looks so realistic too. Working shunt signals..... in basically 3mm scale. Locos, coaches, wagons, everything. Pure and accurate GNR heaven. Welcome, Ballyconnell Road, to Ireland. And of course we had IRM with the unbelievably superb “A” class, and the legend that is Paddy Murphy with his 121. I came away financially a good bit lighter than when I arrived, but money well spent. I’m looking right now at a dozen of Leslie’s cattle trucks, among other things.... And then there’s Eoin’s excellent DARTs! Folks, if you haven’t been, GO!!!! -
South Dublin Model Railway Exhibition 2019 list of exhibitors
jhb171achill replied to DartStation's topic in What's On?
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Yes, he does. Usually to be found in the archival section (downstairs).
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More Bubble Fun with Original Slate Grey and Irish Cement Wagons
jhb171achill replied to Warbonnet's topic in News
I’d be fairly sure anything delivered in 1972 was orange new.....? However - one thing is certain. IF the last ones were grey as new, it didn’t last long! -
Tony, that is looking really amazing now - superb work.
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I can’t remember where I took that pic above, but modellers might note a few details. The chassis is roughly painted the standard brown. This was actually rare - very rare - which is why I took the pic. Secondly, modellers might like to note that until “doubled” in height, the bodies were never brown - just the dirty unpainted metal as when built. Chassis originally grey, of course.
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Absolutely superb - looks like a selection of Barry Carse’s photos! Best era of CIE - lots of freight and numerous mixtures of locos and carriages all over the place, and still a few sleepy branch lines.
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The emphasis in Malahide will be on Fry’s actual models in display cases, and an 00 gauge operational layout. Currently there is no plan to display the non-Fry-made models and they remain in storage. They will be properly sorted and catalogued over the winter.
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More Bubble Fun with Original Slate Grey and Irish Cement Wagons
jhb171achill replied to Warbonnet's topic in News
Yes - I suppose there were TWO grey liveries! 1. Original grey paint 1960s- c.1972 2. All-over cement covering, which was variously light or dark grey according to whether it was wet or dry weather - the damp soaking into the concrete "paint"! -
Me too. I will definitely take 5 or 6 minimum.
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More Bubble Fun with Original Slate Grey and Irish Cement Wagons
jhb171achill replied to Warbonnet's topic in News
The grey wagons were all repainted orange LONG before the ivory started. Thus, while at the dawn of the “supertrain” loco livery, there were probably still a few grey bubbles, (a) most were now orange, including the later ones delivered NEW in orange, and (b) all grey were long long gone by the time the “Tippex” striped loco livery appeared (1987). -
That's correct, Leslie - the vast majority of those wagons were built well after the first few years of CIE. White was the norm from the early to mid 50s! So it's very much correct for your vans and cattle trucks. In fact it's the only show in town. I only ever saw the light green on old wagon bodies in fields, where a hedge had sheltered a side of a vehicle possibly sold off i before 1954.....
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Initially, all "snails" were very carefully hand-painted, even on the humblest of wagons. The stencil appears to have been introduced sometime about 1955, as any newly painted wagons from then on had the stencil only. Obviously, they would have replaced it with the CIE "roundel" in 1963, but I recall seeing "snailed" grey wagons well into the 1970s, to the end of loose-coupled goods, in fact. From 1945 to 1950, "eau-de-nil" light green was used for numerals (and probably snails) painted on wagons, but white replaced this in the early 1950s. In addition, the shade of grey used lightened considerably in the late 1950s.
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A Midland beauty, and in the "secondary" all-dark-green livery, sans lining or snail, as practiced, for example on the West Clare... it's surprising how many old midland coaches managed to end up in West Cork. Briefly, in 1959, an ex-GNR vehicle still in GNR brown, and clerestorey-roofed, managed to make its way onto a Cork - Bantry train. Love the elderly GSWR goods brake too. For those who manufacture transfers of flying snails, this stencilled version (white) would be a great addition, as "full" snails just don't look quite right on wagons 1955-70!
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The very existence of the white stripe on the black'n'tan livery owes its origin to that very fact - that in a typical train virtually no two coaches were alike. I remember it well. Initially at least, the "borderline" between the lower tan and the mid-level black was always kept at exactly the same height, even if it didn't suit the "architecture" of the coach. The white line, similarly, was at exactly the same level, and (BR vans excepted, due to lower body height) the same six-inch width. As a result, an illusion of greater uniformity was created as one looked along the side of a train.
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The late Billy Lohan was often rostered for Ennis specials. He never had anything other than a J15 except for a single occasion when he had a Midland 0.6.0 of some sort. I think he said a J18 or J19. This engine had dodgy brakes, according to Billy, and was being worked to Inchicore to be fixed. On account of this, he ran through a set of crossing gates somewhere north of Ennis and smashed them to pieces!
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De udder locos..... yes, not just on the Midland but other lines too, the heaviest 0.6.0s were the norm. Today it would probably be 071s! (Now there’s a thought!) J15s were commonplace, even in the DSER. I believe DSER 15 & 16 (461/2) also made appearances, though you’d need to dip a Murphy 2.6.0 in grey paint to make it authentic! (They were never lined green, a la RPSI!)
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Jhb171Senior-recalled counting FIFTY ONE cattle trucks leaving Ballinasloe (I think; possibly Gort or Loughrea) about 1936...... plus van with fry, in which he travelled. Smell of coal and oil??!???? NOOO! Cow poo.............
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A former GSWR driver I interviewed in his very late nineties over 25 years ago told me that his most hated turn was Ennis cattle fair, when (possibly unofficially) he was given what he described as a “worn out” J15 to lift up to 45 loaded cattle trucks out of Ennis for destinations north....