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Red paint!!!!!!! Aaarrrrrgggghhhhh my eyes hurt.....

Not a corrugated one - unless it's arrived very recently indeed. There are, between Downpatrick & Whitehead, a couple of wooden ones of NCC origin.

18th is a Wednesday.... fine for me. Anyone else? Garfield - maybe stick up a post under "events" if anyone's interested?

I had thought of getting a couple to the DCDR at one time, but money for transport was tight!

No Cravens were ever kitchen or bar cars until the RPSI converted two standards. Belatedly, CIE put small food serverys in 1508 / 9. That was all. 1508 saw somewhat more use and the RPSI now has it. 1509 was scrapped.

Ok, Ryan's, 18th? Will check diary.

Glenderg, there will be many suggestions, so you decide date and time!

Brilliant! I can confirm that examples existed with black and white lettering / badge, as in the photo, and all-black as on the model. An absolutely essential addition to the mid-1970s scene.

I'd be happy with that...anyone else?

Might I tentatively suggest somewhere central and appropriate, like Harcourt Street Station Concourse (aka Odeon Bar)? Gets a bit loud though, so other suggestions?

After you, dear boy!

What about an IRM autumn gathering before the Xmas party season kicks off? Night out, nibbles, a few jars....? Garfield?

Always thought a model version of the North Wall goods yards and shunting / transfer freights there would be fascinating, though a lot of compromise in space would be needed. Such a thing would be an ideal home for B113 and B114 in the early 1960s, and would also allow both CIE and some GNR steam, as well as various CIE diesels.

It wouldn't be commercially viable (thankfully) to do a print run of an old ticket, thus authenticity is normal, if not inevitable.

Only in its very last few years, and not as closely as it looks. It had just as much cooperation from the NCC in relation to some matters. It was more of a consultative aspect, as the BCDR was of course fully independent in all respects. The SLNCR used the services of some GNR people from time to time, with regard to permanent way and diesel rail uses. The DNGR, on the other hand, ended up being operated by the GNR, often using their locos and stock.

Superb video. The RPSI simply painted green over the orange - never intended as a livery as such, but simply a stop-gap measure. I think about 3 carriages were like that in traffic. None were ever grey and black, unless one went out once in undercoat, possibly. Videos are notoriously bad at depicting colour, with much very distorted. Snails were often incorrectly applied by the RPSI. "Reverse" snails, that is with the upper part pointing right, were only put on the offside of buses and STEAM locos. Nothing else.

For the record, that paint scheme on 184 was a short-lived RPSI "makey-up" one. Snails on steam locos were never, ever yellow - only the gold-lined light green, and no J15s were ever black except in GSWR pre-1915 condition.

''Tis true, burnthebox... but... in my case at least, yer man was well known for skinflintism etc etc....

Many buildings of that era had broadly similar sized windows.....could be worthwhile looking for an existing building, which doesn't even have to be a railway one - and measuring both windows and doors too.

There's two stories with happy endings, thankfully. A working colleague in the preservation world once pinched a book of mine too, which I never got back. I know who took it, and quite disgracefully another colleague covered up for this individual. The thief is no longer with us - it was years ago..... Just shows that even friends / colleagues can't always be trusted.....

Wick? Thurso? Ah! The narrow gauge.....

Archives like that are compulsory, and exceptionally valuable, viewing for narrow gauge heads like me!

Wowwww! 00 works, I'll have one. I did email you but no answer. Constructive comment; it beggars me belief that one option is black - none were ever black in that form! GNR blue would actually be nice.... ;-) Grey. Put me down for one.

Fertiliser Wagon Accurate A class CIE cattle truck Proper AEC railcar six wheel chassis at least, or ideally MGWR standard 6-wheeler. That's all.... Once we have those, pretty much anything will be possible. It's great to see freight wagons coming on so well. For years, we've seen increasingly accurate carriages, DARTs and locomotives, but goods stock seems to be poor relation. In the 1970s, the only way of having Irish stock was to paint a Hornby Jinty in grey, or a Hymek in orange. The only way to have Irish carriages was to paint Mk 2s in either NIR maroon and blue, or CIE orange and black. Even now, many layouts have little choice but to have all the excellent Murphy and Bachmann locos and passenger stock, yet still repainted BR wagons! Wagons are only just starting to catch up. For realism, the above half dozen items are so essential, that a layout based in the 1950-80 period simply is not realistic without whichever of those standards belongs to these various eras/

Tony If the outside is 6ft, that means the inside is 5tf, based on losing 6 inches each side - or maybe you mean 6ins in total, i.e. 3ins per side. If that is the case, a "U" shape really is the only option - and you're looking at short wheelbases as the one curve will be very tight indeed. Thus, a 4.4.0 will be necessary - an 0.6.0 mightn't take a curve as sharp. So, you're looking at a couple of "U" class really. Since the 141 class just barely made it to Omagh, you could use one on the basis that the line stayed open just a year or two more, and CIE started working them on the goods through to Derry, after the UTA scrapped most of their steam engines! Rolling stock would probably need to be all 4-wheeled, so a shunting end-to-end based on goods yards only would appear to be the only option - but - a very good one. It's a pity that the shed couldn't even be one foot wider, but there is the possibility of the above with what you have. My dad would have been delighted to see an Omagh-based layout.