murrayec Posted April 10, 2018 Author Posted April 10, 2018 Hi Guys thanks for the great comments Some more stuff on the Flying Scotsman tender;- I bent up the coal bunker and top of tender plate, a bit of persuasion to get it into shape, taped it up and tack soldered it and then got it into final shape for soldering all over All worked OK and fits almost like a glove- surprising.... Some small adjustment done to the bunker front as the tender front face would not sit in properly, mainly metal filed off..... The first of the front tender parts, cut out, cusp removed, folded up, soldered up, and cleaned up Footplate, frames, drag beam, buffer beam, and brackets prepared for soldering up Soldered Chassis test fitted Axle springs on next but the brass work needs a clean up in the blast cabinet first Eoin 3 1 Quote
Noel Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 Le Sublime. How will you bear to part with this amazing labour of love when it's complete. Is that a retracted scoop under the chassis? 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 This is model engineering on the very top level. (Even though it's narrow gauge! 😃) 1 Quote
murrayec Posted April 10, 2018 Author Posted April 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Noel said: Le Sublime. How will you bear to part with this amazing labour of love when it's complete. Is that a retracted scoop under the chassis? Yes Noel, it's the water scoop all right, I saw a film of one of these in action, they slow down a bit, lower the scoop and bash water everywhere- hedgehogs and frogs flying! Eoin 1 Quote
murrayec Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 Flying Scotsman Tender main chassis stuff complete;- So the springs needed a bit of cleaning up, the spru ran across the back of the axle box and out the sides to support the spring hangers- this had to be removed, I made a little jig out of styrene to hold the units while filing, I filed down the spru flush and then cut off what was left, the styrene protects the hangers from getting out of shape. The springs required some metal to be removed as they would not tuck in under chassis brackets under the floor plate. All ready to go soldering, note the pencil lead to stop the solder running everywhere- 70deg lead solder will do that! So the plan is to put 180deg solder to the brass, inside n out, and 70deg lead solder to the back of the springs, then sweat solder together using gentile persuasion with a stick! The heat is applied to the inside of the frames, with the frames fluxed again and 70deg solder on the iron. One side done and the pencil lead works a treat, virtually no solder to be cleaned off on the front Other side done, a good blob of 70deg solder used on the back, the iron is held there until one sees the solder flow through to the other side and around the axle box- nice shiny line! All the bits, and wheels back on for...... ....... Oooooh! lets put it together Looking like a tender Eoin 3 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Wowww!!! (Just needs lined blue paint now, and a big "G N"!) 1 Quote
murrayec Posted April 12, 2018 Author Posted April 12, 2018 27 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: Wowww!!! (Just needs lined blue paint now, and a big "G N"!) Hi jhb Don't think the client would like it in blue, wasn't there a story about one of the restorations on the Flying Scot? - they painted it blue and they got death threats from the fans & sponsors were displeased and requested their money back.... Eoin Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Ahhh sure they're philistines, Eoin. See what it looks like in Translink "red bull" for the craic....... Quote
murrayec Posted June 21, 2018 Author Posted June 21, 2018 Things have been moving along on the Flying Scot, just haven't had time to post stuff up- well here it is now...... Tender trims being installed with cyano glue Water access hatch and tender top parts being soldered on- 80deg pre soldered to brass parts and the white metal 70deg soldered on Tender top epoxied in White metal crew passage roof going on, using epoxy on this one as to close to the plastic for soldering, brass handrails and other fittings are epoxied to Helping hands while glue sets Tender cab parts- coal shoot, grill & crew door. The grill required a few rivets punched out More fittings going on- all cusps have been removed by filing on these parts in all photos Break handles, brackets and rear tender lamp irons drilled, cleaned up and brass rods prepared All epoxied on Rear lamp irons on and rear steps being prepared Steps folded up and the coal irons will be chemically blackened Steps and handrails epoxied on More tender cab handles, brackets n hooks being prepared Tender cab complete Brass fittings installed in coal area, all were epoxied in Corridor connection n hook next, the connector required some serious filing down on the sides to fit between the steps Gentile persuasion and its on- just with blu-tak for the moment Wheels off again for the last parts-guard irons, I kept this until last as they stick down below the frames and would have made all the above construction more difficult and they may have been damaged in the process- 80deg soldered on Tender is now complete- well except for painting n lining Eoin Now lets have a look at the whole thing Its just about ready for painting, some filling and adjustments required and I'm down to the last 3 packets of parts- the crew, the signs, and a bag of coal..... Eoin 2 3 Quote
KMCE Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Now that is a stunningly impressive model and associated talent bringing it together!! Well done Eoin. 1 Quote
David Holman Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 And Hatton's are bringing one out soon for a mere £750... Am sure there will be plenty of takers, but Eoin's model shows that the journey can be so much more than the destination! As for livery, it is his customer's choice of course, bit for me, growing up by the East Coast mainline, it would have to be Brunswick green. All it needs now will be a rake of ten Gresley coaches... 1 Quote
JasonB Posted June 21, 2018 Posted June 21, 2018 Outstanding Eoin, your work never ceases to amaze me. 1 Quote
murrayec Posted June 12, 2019 Author Posted June 12, 2019 (edited) I have not posted on the Flying Scotsman build for some time, work has been proceeding but I had a slight hiccup with the boiler and tender body green paint- the paint dried before hitting the parts and ended up with a sandpaper kind of powder finish, that came off the parts if rubbed with ones finger!. So an annoying complete rub down was required- so I took a break....... Now back on track, here are some photos before the disaster and post;- Everything cleaned and ready for paint priming. Etch primer on the footplate, this is a very light coat so that one can see the metal under, this allows the etch to do it's job properly. Tender chassis was given the same treatment. Name plates and makers plates etch primed. Boiler and tender body being plastic was ordinary primed but some metal parts were etch primed. Chaps primed ready to put on some cloths. Next was red oxide under coat on parts that are going to be black. Black and green on, it was at this point I had the green powdery paint problem..... I put everything away for a while and got on with other projects......... After rubbing down the paint problem parts I set about respraying the green- after working out I had blocked side air vents on the nozzle of the gun!! Parts back out of storage and green paint looking good. Name plates were painted satin black and then rubbed down on emery paper to bring up the text in brass finish, the makers plate is done the opposite way- brass plate and black text. Chaps done. Cab roof painted cream white. Footplate with buffer beam and splashers painted ready to start the lining. Boiler and tender were masked off for painting the black bits. I started on the tender chassis lining first, not an easy job! Here is a trick that helps, cut every decal into small parts as they are impossible to put on in one piece and remove as much of the backing card with a scalpel so you end up with the decal on a very thin backing which is more flexible and the lining is less prone to get stuck over the edge of the thicker card- if you know what I mean. The blank paper in the photo below is the back peeled away from one of the lines. Splashers being lined, the decals are incorrectly sized but work, the front ones needed cutting and improvisation. Buffer beam lined and numbered. I started on the lining under the footplate with the decals- but was impossible, so I changed to using a bow pen which is less frustrating and done in 1/6th of the time. Paint detail being added to the tender and just about ready for lining this. I'm pretty excited at this point, the end is so close, it will be amazing to see it done, also to get it behind me n out to the client......... Eoin Edited June 12, 2019 by murrayec 5 Quote
Galteemore Posted June 12, 2019 Posted June 12, 2019 Inspiring work! Nice to see some bow pen action too.. 1 Quote
popeye Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 It's going to be beautiful, love the tender detail. 1 Quote
Noel Posted June 13, 2019 Posted June 13, 2019 c'est magnifique Lucky client. Eoin hat's off, hope you feel the joy of producing such master pieces. 1 1 Quote
murrayec Posted June 18, 2019 Author Posted June 18, 2019 Lining and numbering on the Flying Scot continues....... The cab is finished, except for some black paint touch ups and a blast with some satin varnish and the internals can go in. The tender body is nearly there, one side is done. Pretty hard to get all the lines straight and level, on the edges I did every curve separately and then joined up with the straight bits. The panel I did in 4 bits, and used marked up masking tape to locate the letters. Tender chassis lining is complete. This was the hardest bit so far. Here is a tip- during construction of a chassis when sticking on the horn blocks n suspension ensure that the gap is completely filled and sealed, otherwise the lining decals will slide in under due to capillary action, I spent far more time easing them back out than actually sticking them on!! A bit of black touch up required on the buffer beam and its ready for varnish. Eoin 3 4 Quote
popeye Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 The lining looks perfect, great job. You must be cross eyed by now. 1 Quote
murrayec Posted June 19, 2019 Author Posted June 19, 2019 7 hours ago, popeye said: You must be cross eyed by now. Yes, on the tender chassis lining I had to use the 10x magnifiers, it took so long to get the lines reasonable in position my eyes took about 2 days to recover!! Eoin 2 1 Quote
KMCE Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 Ah - jaysus, and then I look at my lining attempts. Well done Eoin - pure quality. Note to self: must try harder!!! Ken 2 Quote
Bob229 Posted June 19, 2019 Posted June 19, 2019 On 6/18/2019 at 11:11 PM, murrayec said: Lining and numbering on the Flying Scot continues....... The cab is finished, except for some black paint touch ups and a blast with some satin varnish and the internals can go in. The tender body is nearly there, one side is done. Pretty hard to get all the lines straight and level, on the edges I did every curve separately and then joined up with the straight bits. The panel I did in 4 bits, and used marked up masking tape to locate the letters. Tender chassis lining is complete. This was the hardest bit so far. Here is a tip- during construction of a chassis when sticking on the horn blocks n suspension ensure that the gap is completely filled and sealed, otherwise the lining decals will slide in under due to capillary action, I spent far more time easing them back out than actually sticking them on!! A bit of black touch up required on the buffer beam and its ready for varnish. Eoin Superb great to see such work and details of how the model is progressing 3 Quote
murrayec Posted June 21, 2019 Author Posted June 21, 2019 Flying Scotsman lining is complete, I'm glad that's done..... I set to do the boiler band lining thinking this would be the hardest, but no- it was the easiest? The spraying stand gives a great handle to hold the boiler without touching the paintwork. Complete, the satin varnish finish will bring the shine down. Brass couplers just about to be chemical blackened, and the window glazing cut to size- spectacles at top left, cab side below, with internal frame feature stuck on- top n bottom, and the round one is the port-hole type window on the rear tender to light the inside of the crew corridor, it's a brass frame. Detail parts been fitted- buffer shanks, blackened coupler & vacuum pipe to the fotplate front , a little bit of black touch-up to be done on the buffer beam edge. Makers plates and smoke box door handle stuck on, I used Humbrol Clear for the plates and epoxy on most other bits. Footplate has the brass oiler gear and nameplates stuck on with epoxy. A few more detail parts to be done and then ready for a clean down and few coats of satin varnish. Eoin 4 3 Quote
popeye Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, beautiful skills. 1 Quote
Noel Posted June 21, 2019 Posted June 21, 2019 1 hour ago, popeye said: I can see the light at the end of the tunnel, beautiful skills. Agree. Hats off Eoin, stunning precision craftsmanship. The lining looks more precise than factory applied. 1 Quote
murrayec Posted June 23, 2019 Author Posted June 23, 2019 The Flying Scotsman crew inspecting the cab of their new command before it goes onto the footplate. Eoin 3 5 Quote
Bob229 Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 On 6/23/2019 at 9:57 PM, murrayec said: The Flying Scotsman crew inspecting the cab of their new command before it goes onto the footplate. Eoin Such detail, fantastic, lucky client 1 Quote
murrayec Posted June 29, 2019 Author Posted June 29, 2019 Coaling up the Flying Scotsman's tender....... Two pieces of cardboard were cut out to close off the coal chute and the top of the tender, painted black and stuck in with impact adhesive. Dilute Mod Podge was used to glue the coal in. The coal that came with the kit was a bit chunky- almost the size of a man! So with the 'modellers magic wand' I reduced the size a bit- small coal for in the chute and bigger in the tender, the fireman will have to use the lump hammer as the big stuff comes to the chute. All done. Tender body now on its chassis. Port hole window glued on and buffers installed. I then started getting the chassis ready for the fitting of the footplate, cab & boiler. First was to install the valve reversing rod and gear- oops! had not looked at the chassis for a while and realised the reversing rod support bracket required modification, the kit provided the incorrect bracket, but they did follow up with a mod part which I butchered and soldered onto the installed bracket- needs a bit of paint now. I installed a switch to turn off the power to the motor so that the loco can be displayed static with the fire running. Another item missing in the kit was the whistle, so I made up my version of one with .7mm brass wire and styrene- needs painting now. The display plinth and track is complete, cut from mdf, with a bit of a moulded edge and painted brown to give a dark hardwood look. Wheel sanding piping was made up from .7mm brass wire and will be epoxied on when the paint is dry- these, the wheel centre lining and fitting the body tomorrow....... Almost there! Eoin 7 2 Quote
murrayec Posted July 1, 2019 Author Posted July 1, 2019 Another thing I remembered to do on the Flying Scotsman- a motor flywheel. A bit of brass from the scrap box, its going to be 22mm dia with a few holes like spokes and a recess cut to get the weight on the outside for maximum flywheeling! Turned on the lathe and now transferred to the mill rotary table to drill the holes and mill the slot. Done and Loctited on. A quick test run to check all systems are OK before the body goes on. And now the best bit! Just about to get stuck in and guests arrived........ Eoin 6 Quote
murrayec Posted July 2, 2019 Author Posted July 2, 2019 The Flying Scotsman kit build is complete. It was touch and go assemble it- as its a hard beast to handle without damaging the finishes with screwdrivers, files and the like doing final adjustments. I'm pretty happy with the way it has turned out. I'll post up a few more photos later when I get it out into the daylight. I should have it on display this coming Sunday at the Train & Model Fair in Bray if anyone would like to see it for real. Eoin 3 4 Quote
popeye Posted July 2, 2019 Posted July 2, 2019 Amazing, You must be glad that's over, it's a lot of hours of your life. Quote
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