buildings for a railway yard in the 50s

[GSR 800]

Hi guys.Since im building a yard for kedleston i knew it needed some buildings.But very few layouts are set in the 50s in ireland,so im not sure what to put in the yard(par an engine shed,water tower and turntable)

[Broithe]

Hi guys.Since im building a yard for kedleston i knew it needed some buildings.But very few layouts are set in the 50s in ireland,so im not sure what to put in the yard(par an engine shed,water tower and turntable)

 

Ballybrophy had everything - https://plus.google.com/photos/105618325540295927305/albums/5222995821547314129?banner=pwa - the remains of the turntable were still visible up to recently -

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[GSR 800]

Thanks Broithe.Do you have any pics of it back in the day? Also if anyone has old pics of mullingar yard/westport yard

[David Holman]

Check out the Alphagraphix catalogue GSR. He advertises in Railway Modeller & you need to send him some stamps, as it is all by post. There is a wide range of model building kits for Irish prototypes in both 4mm and 7mm scale. Cheap too - often 5 euro or less. They can make into decent models, or if you prefer [like me], you can use them as a plan for your own scratch builds. Note too that signal boxes in Ireland were often 'off the shelf' jobs, mainly from Saxby & Farmer. Wizard Models do many fittings.

[Broithe]

Thanks Broithe.Do you have any pics of it back in the day?

 

Not really, there's a good few about on the net, though - little has changed, really - the footbridge has been replaced, the signal box and the engine shed have gone. The track layout has been radically simplified. I've never seen a picture with the engine shed in view...

[Jawfin]

Maybe a goods shed, like the one at Downpatrick? For a larger station, a set of sheer legs or a hand crane? (there's one of the former at Whitehead, one of the latter at Downpatrick)

[DiveController]

Ballybrophy had everything - https://plus.google.com/photos/105618325540295927305/albums/5222995821547314129?banner=pwa - the remains of the turntable were still visible up to recently -

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Very nice set of photos, Jim. GSR, I think you're likely to find a lot of similar buildings in the O' Dea collection that would help you reconstruct this 'in the day'

[DiveController]

Check out the Alphagraphix catalogue GSR. He advertises in Railway Modeller & you need to send him some stamps, as it is all by post. There is a wide range of model building kits for Irish prototypes in both 4mm and 7mm scale.

Anyone have contact details from Railway modeller or otherwise?

[jhb171achill]

Station Master's house adjacent to the station in some cases, or "above the shop" i.e. a second storey in the station building. Signal box, goods shed, loco shed, possibly a carriage shed if it's a terminus, goods shed, and often little storage sheds like a lamp room, bicycle shed, coal / turf shed, PW men's hut, etc.

[GSR 800]

Thanks all for your contribution.does any stockists have sheer legs or hand cranes.For the PW hut would the yellow huts in hornbys trackside pack be one with a bit of paint?

[Dunluce Castle]

Bachmann do a depot hoist crane, as seen here http://www.ehattons.com/60736/Bachmann_Branchline_44_181_Depot_Hoist_168mm_x_75mm_x_105mm_/StockDetail.aspx and also a hand crane, seen here http://www.ehattons.com/52740/Bachmann_Branchline_44_146_Highley_Station_Yard_Crane_60_x_45_x_75mm_/StockDetail.aspx

You can also buy kits similar to the RTP models above if your into kit building.....

[josefstadt]

Anyone have contact details from Railway modeller or otherwise?

 

Alphagraphix,

23 Darris Road,

Selly Park,

Birmingham, B29 7QY,

England.

 

Enclose a stamped addressed envelope for replies in the UK, or 2 International Reply Coupons for overseas.

[GSR 800]

Bachmann do a depot hoist crane, as seen here http://www.ehattons.com/60736/Bachmann_Branchline_44_181_Depot_Hoist_168mm_x_75mm_x_105mm_/StockDetail.aspx and also a hand crane, seen here http://www.ehattons.com/52740/Bachmann_Branchline_44_146_Highley_Station_Yard_Crane_60_x_45_x_75mm_/StockDetail.aspx

You can also buy kits similar to the RTP models above if your into kit building.....

Thanks Nelson the bachmann hoist crane will be on my to buy list!

[DiveController]

Thanks Nelson the bachmann hoist crane will be on my to buy list!

Good looking hoist, Nelson. GSR, also more locally, same price

http://www.themodelshop.ie/depot-hoist.html

[Mayner]

Good looking hoist, Nelson. GSR, also more locally, same price

http://www.themodelshop.ie/depot-hoist.html

 

The depot hoist is more suited to a large loco depot than a railway goods yard. Waterford had a hand operated gantry outside the shed, Grand Canal Sheet had a sheerlegs

 

Most goods yards had a simple hand operated crane the Wills Kit is based on the crane at Castlerea on the Mayo Line http://www.buffersmodelrailways.com/products/kits-192/station-195/wills-ss51-yard-crane-plastic-kit-oo-scale/item

 

Most Irish goods yards were relatively small usually with a siding serving a goods shed and loading bank often with a hand operated crane for sundries and less than full wagon load traffic, larger yards usually had a separate siding with a loading bank for wagon load and cattle traffic.

 

Coles Cranes appear to have been introduced in larger depots the 1960s to mechanise the loading/uloading of wagons, gantries started to appear with widespread containerisation from the mid 1960s onwards http://www.corgi.co.uk/coles-argus-6-ton-crane-yellow.html

 

The goods shed operated in a similar manner to a modern couriers depot wagons as a warehouse and distribution centre goods could be delivered by the railway road delivery service or picked up by a customer.

 

With wagon load the customer was responsible for loading or unloading the wagon, a farmer or merchant might by a wagon load of cement or fertiliser and sometimes use the wagon as storage unloading the wagon at his or her leisure.

 

Beet was originally loaded by hand, in the late 50s ramps were built on many cattle banks to allow loading by tipper lorries sometimes carters sometimes CIE owned trucks.

[GSR 800]

Hi John.In my opinion,as my goods yard is serving a terminus it would be large and would possibly need a depot crane.

[Garfield]

Hi John.In my opinion,as my goods yard is serving a terminus it would be large and would possibly need a depot crane.

 

If this is the one you're referring to: http://www.themodelshop.ie/depot-hoist.html ...the depot hoist is more suitable for a railway workshop where they were used for lifting wheels and frames, etc. I've never heard of such a crane being used in a goods yard.

Edited May 5, 2015 by Garfield

[GSR 800]

Sorry i meant a railway yard:rolleyes:

[Garfield]

Sorry i meant a railway yard:rolleyes:

 

'Railway yard' is a very loose term... do you mean an engine shed or maintenance depot?

[GSR 800]

an engine shed

[patrick]

The buildings and facilities in a goods yard reflect the type of goods handled. Rathkeale for instance had a gantry crane to handle containers from a nearby co op, Fenit had a scale for weighing wagons loaded on the pier, the North Kerry yard in Tralee had among other facilities, a platform for washing out cattle wagons, a small building used by Liptons for tea shipments, a tar depot and a number of private sidings which over the years handled fertilizer, grain, coal and possibly more. Figure out what traffic your yard handles and work from there.

[Dunluce Castle]

One of my favourite threads on RMweb and funnily enough the current topic is about overhead hoists/crane. So with a few bits of balsa wood, you can make quite a convincing model..http://www.rmweb.co.uk/community/index.php?/topic/58826-grantham-the-streamliner-years/?p=1879358

[GSR 800]

Nelson I'm only after seeing the link now, thank you for showing me that, a simple but brilliant idea