Walker Diesel Class F - ECMbuild in 4mm for OOn3

[Midland Man]

This may be of interest. Hope this pic has not been uploaded on the topic but anyway it's the first ever walker diesel  on the west Clare line. Funny it's looks green yet the A class  were delivered white before they were painted silver.

 

 

 

hope there ain't a copyright on it.

 MM

 

[jhb171achill]

1 hour ago, Midland Man said:

This may be of interest. Hope this pic has not been uploaded on the topic but anyway it's the first ever walker diesel  on the west Clare line. Funny it's looks green yet the A class  were delivered white before they were painted silver.

 

 

 

hope there ain't a copyright on it.

 MM

 

Point of order, m’lud; the “A” class were delivered silver (as were the original trio of G’s, the original E401s, the B101s and the Cs.).

The F were always green, and were probably never repainted once - they were only in use six years.

[David Holman]

Does things properly, does Eoin. An example, nay inspiration to us all.

[Midland Man]

2 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

Point of order, m’lud; the “A” class were delivered silver (as were the original trio of G’s, the original E401s, the B101s and the Cs.).

The F were always green, and were probably never repainted once - they were only in use six years.

You are right @jhb171achill and I wrong. I relised that the As were painted silver when being shown to CIE heads at MV workshops. The As were painted white during testing.  @murrayec great little model of yours oon3 sounds quite hard as it's quite small. Keep it up.

 

A16 on its first test Dalkey-Killiney.

Stay safe everyone 

MM

[jhb171achill]

9 hours ago, Midland Man said:

You are right @jhb171achill and I wrong. I relised that the As were painted silver when being shown to CIE heads at MV workshops. The As were painted white during testing.  @murrayec great little model of yours oon3 sounds quite hard as it's quite small. Keep it up.

 

A16 on its first test Dalkey-Killiney.

Stay safe everyone 

MM

Sorry, MM, that’s actually silver - they were never white at all.

The colour rendition in that photo is inaccurate - the “A16” on it looks grey or even black, but was light green..... and you can see that the green on the hill behind (and the carriages) isn’t right either. Many old colour slides deteriorate.

One of Cyril Fry’s slides shows what looks like a bluish-purple B101, with an embankment behind it - grass covered - in some weird pink / purplish colour!

First thing in examining old photos is to look at the background. Vegetation, sky, peoples faces (ideal) or the like. If they’re not right, the railway vehicle isn’t either. 

[Midland Man]

Your right and I am wrong (again)

Part of the vegitation is purple. Anyway I like the photo and if I ever get around to get a silver fox kit I am going to paint white just for the craic

[jhb171achill]

Janey Mac - a white one would look strange! But as you say, just for the craic.....

[Midland Man]

Well then again if I keep on learning this I may be the right mind not to do it.

 

MM

[murrayec]

The green is on the Walker, the first coat was a disaster- it was a luminous green on top of the grey primer so I added a bit more green into the mix!!

I'll need to take a good look at this in the daylight tomorrow but its growing on me;-

At last it's got it's skin on....

Eoin

 

[Midland Man]

Wooooooooooow! @murrayec

 

[murrayec]

The Walker body colour in the daylight, the photos show more blue in the colour than the eye takes in!

I reckon we'll be sticking with this, when the black handrails, n other bits of detail go on then squirted with a lacquer it will be grand;-

Eoin

[Garfield]

Fantastic work, Eoin. Can't be long now until the first test run?  

[Midland Man]

While looking for LLSR color pics i found this.

 

 

You got the color spot on.

Stay safe everyone

MM 

[popeye]

Lovely, shows up all the detail well. 

It's hard to judge the green under artificial light but that look good.

Can you take a picture outside in daylight and see how it looks.

[murrayec]

18 minutes ago, popeye said:

Can you take a picture outside in daylight and see how it looks.

@popeye

Here are two shots taken in the garden, the first is taken in the shade, and the second taken in the 5.30pm sun. The second photo is more in line when viewing the model with the 'naked eye'

Eoin

 

[Midland Man]

What paint did you use? The first pic looks Humbrol gloss 2 and the second looks light olive 86 mixed or a Matt 155 but the 155 may be a bit too dark. 

[murrayec]

@Midland Man

It's a mix at 6 to 1 ratio- Humbrol Green 131 satin and Humbrol Blue 89 matt.

Eoin

Edited May 14, 2020 by murrayec

[popeye]

What a difference .

The second picture looks more correct to me, but you are the painter and you can paint it

the colour that you are happy with.

[jhb171achill]

Shows how different shades can indeed show up quite differently in different lights! Which also explains the oft-repeated myths that there WERE in reality a million different colours.

In later years, any livery will fade too, and depending on the pigments in paints used can look quite different.... 

But for this model, it certainly looks the part, especially in that second photograph. Excellent - absolutely excellent - work, as always!

[David Holman]

Indeed - I sometimes wonder if it would be easier to model in black and white! The diesel is coming on rather well though.

[murrayec]

Buffer beam painting on the Walker;-

I first set up paper templates for cutting out the glazing, the templates have holes in- taken from the holes in the window frames for the horn & exhaust brackets, this is done because the glass will go in last after the completed body and parts are fixed n lacquered, the glass needs to fit over the ends of the brackets for flush glazing.

Body masked up for painting the beams.

White on.

Red on with satin black brushed on the ladder and coupler bracket.

Unmasked and needed a little clean up on the front running board- I forgot to remove the etch cusp along the edge and the white base colour seeped under the masking and along the cusp! Out with the swab n spirit and slowly removed the white line- remove the cusp next time!

Getting ready to fit the detail parts- handrails, door handles, exhausts, badges, vac pipes, lights, and decals.

The chassis will also be assembled, pick-ups installed and wired up for test running on the track!!......

Eoin

 

[Georgeconna]

Hi Eoin, 

 

Hope all god mate, Thats looks just perfect, Excellent flawless finish as usual and fab step but step.

 

[murrayec]

While starting to fit door handles n rails I realised I still needed to paint the running plate and the roof black!  So out with tape and masked it up, this is easier to do before the rails go on.

And done in satin black.

A few small touch ups are required but I'll wait until the detail parts are fitted and do it all in the one go.

Eoin

[Galteemore]

That masking itself is a work of art Eoin - I’m sure I’ve seen stuff like that in the Tate Modern!

[murrayec]

1 minute ago, Galteemore said:

That masking itself is a work of art Eoin - I’m sure I’ve seen stuff like that in the Tate Modern!

Deadly, thanks for that.

I did go the whole-hog to cover it up as when I masked off to do the buffer beams I did it rather quick and paid for it when some paint got through where it should not have!

Eoin

[murrayec]

Detail parts going on- the exhaust Pipes, horns, handrails, door handles, vac pipes, marker light surrounds and the badges.

Next on the body is cab painting, an overall spray of satin lacquer, and then the decals.

This is the pick-ups installed on the underside of the bogies.

Experienced a few problems with the threaded crank-pins- the crankpin nuts would lock up on one side and come undone on the other, so had to install a set of Alan Gibson crankpin bearings.

Motor bogie up and running.

Chassis assembled.

Ready to run for testing over the weekend.....

Eoin

[popeye]

Looks beautiful and very neat work. 

[David Holman]

Class - pure and simple. Beautiful work.

[Noel]

Excellent results as ever.

[Colin R]

I wish I had the patients to do what you do to these models, an excellent looking model once again. Inspirational to us all.

Colin R

[jhb171achill]

I always wondered what they would have looked like in black, had they lasted only 2 or 3 years more!

[murrayec]

2 hours ago, jhb171achill said:

I always wondered what they would have looked like in black, had they lasted only 2 or 3 years more!

[jhb171achill]

Superb!!!

[murrayec]

I cut out the parts for a 'chopper' coupler for the front- well my version of one!

Parts cut ready for folding and soldering.

Soldered.

Metal blackening, I also included the 14BA nuts and bolts that will hold the couplers on.

Next was installing the glazing, using the paper templates I showed earlier, Scotched taped to the clear styrene and then cut out with holes for the bracket ends of the exhausts and horns. These were then stuck in with Deluxe Glue 'n' Glaze, same for the side windows in the doors.

Decal numbers and brass window wipers, also acid blackened, were applied.

And the chopper coupler being test fitted- it fits!

Only things missing now are the two head lamps. I'm holding off on that until I work out where the weights go, the chassis is up and running but needs quite a bit of weight for traction, there is really nowhere to fit this to the chassis so it has to go into the body somehow......

Eoin

[murrayec]

Lead ballast was worked out today, can just about get the right amount over the motor- the addition of the lead has increased the motor sound! thought it was going to be the other way around?

And here is a video of it running while testing different positions to the weight

Still more to do- it loves running in reverse but it's another story in forward gear!!

Eoin

 

Edit;-

Something went wrong with the video when I did a spelling edit, will post again!!

 

 

 

https://youtu.be/pK-BkS4TsuA

 

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by murrayec