Garfield Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 (edited) Found this on the Bureau of Military History website and thought it would be of interest: http://photogallery.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/displayimage.php?album=23&pid=41#top_display_media http://photogallery.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/displayimage.php?album=25&pid=40#top_display_media Presumably built for use in the Civil War. Would make fascinating scratchbuilding projects... Edited August 13, 2012 by Garfield Quote
Broithe Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 According to my good friend, Paul O'Brien, this book by Bernard Share is particularly worth pursuing if you're interested in this aspect of the railways. http://www.amazon.co.uk/In-Time-Civil-War-Conflict/dp/1905172117 Paul's own work is also interesting, of course - http://paulobrienauthor.com/ Quote
Glenderg Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 I have to say it's a fabulous book, plenty photos, anecdotes of robbing whiskey and chickens from the goods vans, and the bigger picture of what went on at "management" level to try and keep the railways open. There are also some harrowing stories, to be expected. Thoroughly recommended. Richie. Quote
Garfield Posted August 13, 2012 Author Posted August 13, 2012 According to my good friend, Paul O'Brien, this book by Bernard Share is particularly worth pursuing if you're interested in this aspect of the railways. [ATTACH=CONFIG]2159[/ATTACH] http://www.amazon.co.uk/In-Time-Civil-War-Conflict/dp/1905172117 Paul's own work is also interesting, of course - http://paulobrienauthor.com/ I have that book and it is indeed an excellent read. Quote
Broithe Posted August 13, 2012 Posted August 13, 2012 I have that book and it is indeed an excellent read. I will search it out.. Quote
heirflick Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) garfield and broithe-ya two beauties! they are great finds! the BMH is a site that i never knew about, with some facinating shots that i never saw before. must get a copy of the book 'in times of civil war'..sounds like a good read, and just the book to catch up on a subject in history that is little talked about.....also a good excuse to relax and have a glass or two of whiskey:) Edited August 14, 2012 by heirflick Quote
Broithe Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) There is this monument on the Abbeyleix road - http://irishvolunteers.org/2011/03/ira-laois-colt-1916-memorial-colt-portlaoise/ - not too far from you.. It's here - https://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=S+4555+9220&hl=en&ll=52.978809,-7.322723&spn=0.001352,0.002411&sll=52.965122,-7.340187&sspn=0.002717,0.004823&t=h&gl=uk&z=19&layer=c&cbll=52.978809,-7.322723&panoid=wlPHaAw2tfJ3wUV-d14Dcw&cbp=12,337.4,,0,14.12 Edited August 14, 2012 by Broithe Quote
heirflick Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 broithe, im ashamed to say i never knew that existed:o. will have a look at it after work. thanks for the history lesson! Quote
Garfield Posted August 14, 2012 Author Posted August 14, 2012 Seamus, if you're interested in the general history aspect of that site, they have a new audio section featuring recordings of figures such as Maud Gonne, Sean T O'Kelly and W T Cosgrave. Of course, as a Longford man, I was especially interested in the recording of General Seán MacEoin... http://www.bureauofmilitaryhistory.ie/voicerecordings.html Quote
Broithe Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 broithe, im ashamed to say i never knew that existed:o. will have a look at it after work. thanks for the history lesson! Copy the inscription out a hundred times!! Quote
heirflick Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 (edited) 'Of course, as a Longford man, I was especially interested in the recording of General Seán MacEoin'... yes, a great speech the General. his exploits at defeating the 'crown forces' in longford are well remembered. his compassioon shown to the british soldiers wounded in the action gained great respect from both sides. and just to keep all the lads on the site happy with this little piece of history.... he was arrested by the british in..... a railway station - mullingar! thanks grfield-that made the day for me:) by the way, what ever happened to the Generals home? as i recall they were going to demolish it...did it get a stay of execution? a shame if it didnt. Edited August 14, 2012 by heirflick Quote
Garfield Posted August 14, 2012 Author Posted August 14, 2012 ...by the way, what ever happened to the Generals home? as i recall they were going to demolish it...did it get a stay of execution? a shame if it didnt. I think there was a compromise plan which involved building new houses around it. I'll find out the exact story for you tomorrow. His wife's homeplace isn't too far away from me. That house is derelict now, but it's where their wedding breakfast was hosted. Apparently Michael Collins knocked great fun out of the nosy kids peering over the wall at the event by spraying them with a soda siphon! Quote
heirflick Posted August 14, 2012 Posted August 14, 2012 IApparently Michael Collins knocked great fun out of the nosy kids peering over the wall at the event by spraying them with a soda siphon! love tales like that...the big fella had a good sence of humour! Quote
Broithe Posted August 15, 2012 Posted August 15, 2012 I wonder if you could make one of these.. ..using a Bull Ant.. ..? 1 Quote
Dempsey Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 Just stumbled across this post and am instantly fascinated. Is there any more information? Pictures? Dos it still exist or did we do the irish thing and scrap this piece of irish military history? Quote
Westcorkrailway Posted July 16, 2021 Posted July 16, 2021 Looks like the yolk todd andrews drove to deliver the bad news to every rural branchline in the country 34 minutes ago, Dempsey said: Just stumbled across this post and am instantly fascinated. Is there any more information? Pictures? Dos it still exist or did we do the irish thing and scrap this piece of irish military history? There were a few things like this in ireland at that time. I've even seen a machine gun mounted in a gswr open wagon 3 1 Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Dempsey said: Just stumbled across this post and am instantly fascinated. Is there any more information? Pictures? Dos it still exist or did we do the irish thing and scrap this piece of irish military history? According to this blog, there were seven of the rail mounted Lancias completed and one allegedly survived at Inchicore until the early 50s. https://railwayprotectionrepairandmainten.blogspot.com/?m=1 I think a civil war era layout at a show would be a great idea, I think we're mature enough now not to have fist fights over it. The DSER armoured loco has a further layer of interest in that it started life as one of a batch of L&NWR tanks acquired by the DWWR and regauged for use here. It carried the name "Earl of Besborough" as DWWR/DSER No 64 prior to armour plating and lasted until 1936 as GSR 427. 2 Quote
murrayec Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 KMCE has scratch built the armoured tank loco and the full train in 4mm 21mm gauge;- https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/7108-kmces-workbench/page/3/#elControls_125194_menu One could be lucky to see this in the real if he comes to the Train & Model fair tomorrow?? Eoin 2 Quote
Dempsey Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 Thank you all. I think this would be very interesting layout or diorama. Definitely going to research this more. Quote
KMCE Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 6 hours ago, murrayec said: One could be lucky to see this in the real if he comes to the Train & Model fair tomorrow?? I'll be there, and will have the armoured train with me on display. Ken 2 Quote
Galteemore Posted July 17, 2021 Posted July 17, 2021 (edited) 33 minutes ago, KMCE said: I'll be there, and will have the armoured train with me on display. As Collins might have said to Dev in 1922 Edited July 17, 2021 by Galteemore 1 1 Quote
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