fitzguttentite Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hi to all here are a few pics of the start progress is slow started off with cork underlay { did not like it } switched then to foam , another disaster then when going through the garbage under the stairs i found large workout mat belong to her who must be obeyed { which was never used } a lidl special at 6.99 turned out to be excellent { easy to cut nd shape } and nice and smooth got some ballast mixes and started to try them out so thats where im at so far fitz ps i will be posting an add in the for sale section { peco turntable } my layout is too small for it so i might as well sell it somebody will get some use from it , i will post a pic of it on the for sale section its new and boxed thx fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gm171 kk Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I don't think there is a person on this site that would laugh at this, you have more of a layout than I do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 Thx gm im trying to take it slow { as im bound to mess up somewhere along the line } but thats the fun of it all i guess hope to have it all finished for the winter months somewhere to hide in the evenings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josefstadt Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Why would anyone laugh? It looks like a great start - keep up the good work. I hope that SWMBO hasn't discovered that her mat is being put to a better use! Is that an old Tri-Ang rocket launcher wagon in the last photo? Looking forward to the next installment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Like the National Power 59, I wish someone would hurry up and do an up to date model of the 59s! Good work! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Love it - and the mix of stock Keep up the photos please (also, I might take that peco turntable off you ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hi josef you are spot on i got it on flea bay for 1.50 its missing its rocket ? { pity could have fired it at S W M B O } im actually having a great time doing this as 3 people called during the week but nobody can find me oh the peace n quiet BosKonay i will try post a pic of that this evening { turntable } fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 I'll echo what everyone else is saying Fritz, you are doing a great job for your first attempt, like anything you learn as you go along and you will improve very quickly at this rate. The foam is a great idea if you are housing the layout overhead or in a bungalow where sound deadening is important to keep noise to a minimum. Be careful not to apply it with PVA because when the PVA dries it dries hard and it will lose a lot of the sound deadening effect. If you are housing the layout in a purpose built room out doors and your timber work is even and well built you shouldn't need foam or any other type of underlay if you use diluted Copydex as an adhesive for setting the track and ballast to the boards. I have seen this approach before and it works beautifully. I look forward to more progress. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 8, 2012 Author Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hi rich im up in the attic so im not too bad off the kids have flown the nest and only the mrs and me left so the noise aspect it not too bad an issue { thank god } the glue im using on the track ballast is p v a a 50/50 mix first sprayed with a mix of water and washing up liquid { then applying the glue } seems to be working so far im wondering now if i should paint the ballast ? a brown with some black mixed in ? your thought on this ? fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnthebox Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Bloodly hell, slow down man, you have at least twice as much of a layout than I have, well done, keep up the good work, you won't get any dis-couragement on here, I'm already waiting on the video !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted September 8, 2012 Share Posted September 8, 2012 Hi rich im up in the attic so im not too bad off the kids have flown the nest and only the mrs and me left so the noise aspect it not too bad an issue { thank god } the glue im using on the track ballast is p v a a 50/50 mix first sprayed with a mix of water and washing up liquid { then applying the glue } seems to be working so far im wondering now if i should paint the ballast ? a brown with some black mixed in ? your thought on this ? fitz Fitz sometimes the use of washing up liquid mixture and water mist spray followed by the PVA water mix can turn some granite ballast chippings a green color when it dries. This won't be the case if you use other types like Woodland Scenics ballast. If you are brushing the color try some track grime color dry brushed (after loading the brush with paint wipe off most of it in a tissue) and as Anthony has said in another post brush some oil spills where locos have been idling. Go out and look at the real thing and familiarize yourself with what real track looks like. Take photos if you can and study the different tones and colors in the ballast and sleepers. Anthony has posted some very good photos of concrete sleepers track and they are a great reference for anyone wanting to weather their track. There are also some track pics in the prototype photos section of the group of wooden sleepered track that you could use. A little tip is to always model what you see and not what you think it should look like. Any of the lads that paint professionally always use photographs as a reference and that is why their work looks so realistic. Rail Match and Phoenix Precision paints have tinlets of the correct shades of paint for weathering track and ballast, it's well worth having a look at both ranges. A lot of the lads are mixing their own colors and achieving as good if not better results than the off the shelf paints. Youtube is always a good place for watching uploads of different techniques of the process and is well worth checking out. As I said observations of the real thing are a great way of giving you a guide of what you want to achieve. The attic is a popular place for a lot of layouts. Do make sure that it is well insulated, dry, and always keep a close eye on things as sudden changes in temperature can lead to disasters. Leave the missus downstairs to watch soaps and you go up to the loft, a sure sign of a marriage made in heaven. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sulzer201 Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Well done Fitz, that layout is coming on with great speed and can't wait to see more pics. The PW gang look busy too. Love the deltic and the GM59. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Finished a bit off last night { ballast } added a few telegraph poles , next step is the grass etc etc the ballast drove me nuts { its a time consuming process } but taking it slow i think it worked out ok ? as i said earlier i have a few items { new } that i wont be using , due to lack of space . i will put the up on the for sale board today one is a peco oo gauge turntable / the other is an oo gauge oil storage tank { with led light } fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 That's looking better with every post Fitz±! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 (edited) welcome to the site fitz, (where the advice is free and the abuse is plentyful!)...nice work so far. what s the size of the layout? Edited September 9, 2012 by heirflick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Gutten tag Heirflick its 14 x 14 { so far } if i could burst into next doors attic i would here is my mountain and tunnells on the cheap down to the local eurosaver first item was a roll of gutter protector 1.99 { its plactic an easy to use compared to 15.99 a roll of chicken wire } 2nd item 2 x 1.99 packets of plaster mix 3rd item 10 dishcloths 1.99, and a 2.99 bucket up into the loft and let the fun begin shaped some foam pieces , sprayed some expandable foam got it all in place { checked the stock going in and out of the tunnell openings } out with the gutter wire { i was amazed at the value , i was able to strenghten it a total of 3 times with the amount that was in the roll all shaped up now , time for the plaster , the dishcloths are just like the bandage material soaked them in the plaster and here is the result { i will finish off any nooks and crannys with a woodland scenics roll next step { the painting and the grass work } fitz i tell you lads i never knew retirement would be this good im actually enjoying it so far , and was over the moon to see the two g m,s going around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 if i could burst into next doors attic i would I know somebody that booked a visit from Pest Control because of sounds from their attic - only to be told that he didn't have traps for that sort of thing - which really put the wind up them, until he revealed that it was next-door's train set... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted September 9, 2012 Share Posted September 9, 2012 Tunnel is looking good! Just as an aside - if you have a derailment inside - can you get in at it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 9, 2012 Author Share Posted September 9, 2012 Hi boskonay yes not a prob its only 6 inch deep { just reach over } did you get my pm ? fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishModelRail Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 When you said not to laugh, I was expecting some track on the floor but that's a very good start. I'm looking forward to seeing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heirflick Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Gutten tag Heirflick down to the local eurosaver first item was a roll of gutter protector 1.99 { its plactic an easy to use compared to 15.99 a roll of chicken wire } 2nd item 2 x 1.99 packets of plaster mix 3rd item 10 dishcloths 1.99, and a 2.99 bucket up into the loft and let the fun begin shaped some foam pieces , sprayed some expandable foam got it all in place { checked the stock going in and out of the tunnell openings } out with the gutter wire { i was amazed at the value , i was able to strenghten it a total of 3 times with the amount that was in the roll all shaped up now , time for the plaster , the dishcloths are just like the bandage material soaked them in the plaster and here is the result { i will finish off any nooks and crannys with a woodland scenics roll next step { the painting and the grass work } all you need with that mixture is a little semtex and you will have no trouble getting into the neighbours attic! looking good so far.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirley Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 You are really moving at a fast pace and it's looking good. Keep it coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) Mountain 80% finished station building in , engine shed in , wont be long now Edited September 13, 2012 by fitzguttentite Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 You are flying at some pace!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hi Boskonay yes full steam ahed in the background you can see the wagons i was telling you about { conrail } did you get my pm ? fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hi Boskonay yes full steam ahed in the background you can see the wagons i was telling you about { conrail } did you get my pm ? fitz What make are the Conrail covered hoppers? Please don't 'Irishise' them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Hi warbonnet i belive they are walthers make i picked them up in new york last year i got 6 of them , sorry now i did not buy a dozen as they were on special at 9 dollars each . and no i wont be changing them fitz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Warbonnet im sorry i got it wrong they are Bachmann silver series item number 17506 centre flow conrail hopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BabyGM Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Your making great progress just a few days ago it was just track and the beginings of the scenery and now look at it=D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 hi baby g m think i will slow down a bit i want to be up in the attic when the evenings draw in was at the station wiring today [ got some 12 volt street lamps off flea bay ] am impressed they look okay have an old hornby transformer im running them off that so i can control them dim or full blast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Any pics of the lamps in action ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 could do a video does it have to be a youtube video or will an ordinary clip do ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BosKonay Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 YouTube you can embed here allright but any vid would be cool Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 have a vid up by 2pm tomorrow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fitzguttentite Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 pic of the lights in action im using an old hornby transformer so i can limit the voltage i send to them they are 12 volt but bright when on full power what you are seeing is 3 quater power sorry for the poor quality of the pics and the vid { new at computers too } i will post some pics tomorrow of the actual lights i was painting up there today but had to jump ship as the fumes were getting to me VIDEO DID NOT UPLOAD SORRY ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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