RedRich Posted January 2, 2013 Posted January 2, 2013 A great testament to Richie's workmanship. It's great to see some track laid Vincent, you're miles ahead of the posse. Rich, Quote
Barl Posted January 3, 2013 Posted January 3, 2013 Great to see the mk3's out in the open again and they look really well behind 112 and 220:tumbsup: Quote
201bhoy Posted January 5, 2013 Author Posted January 5, 2013 Thanks lads! I can't wait to get some trains running! I ran them on the old 6 x 4 layout, but it looks too much like the train's chasing its tail! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 10, 2013 Author Posted January 10, 2013 I can't decide on whether to change to an NIR layout or stick with the IE! The track plan would be the exact same and if would involve a newly built fictitious line out to Belfast port and a new freight flow to Derry and Belfast from different locations down south. Not many people model the NIR scene so it would be something different, but the down side is that there isn't much NIR stock out there other than MM 208 and MM 112. I'd probably need at least one CAF set a rake of gatwicks would also be nice Quote
UP6936 Posted January 10, 2013 Posted January 10, 2013 If you did choose to go down the NIR route, a class 170 repainted gives an acceptable CAF set. Quote
Glenderg Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 ...but the down side is that there isn't much NIR stock out there other than MM 208 and MM 112. That applies to modelling either side of the border. Unless you have a pot of gold, you're gonna have to bash,scratch, and spray to get the stock you need. That is the most frustrating and at the same time satisfying part of modelling railways on this island! Perhaps you could reinvent one of the obsolete stations in Newry like Edward Street or nearby at Adavoyle, giving you the excuse to run both stock types? Quote
BosKonay Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 As well as the current 071's in NIR, and the forthcoming 201 (hopefully), you've got C Class from Silverfox (NIR 106 / ex CIE 227) as well as the Class 70 repaint giving you a decent CAF 3k/4k. Gatwick stock is a repaint, and there are lovely DD options now, that can run behind any 201 class... Quote
201bhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 That applies to modelling either side of the border. Unless you have a pot of gold, you're gonna have to bash,scratch, and spray to get the stock you need. That is the most frustrating and at the same time satisfying part of modelling railways on this island! Perhaps you could reinvent one of the obsolete stations in Newry like Edward Street or nearby at Adavoyle, giving you the excuse to run both stock types? If I was going to be doing an NIR layout, it would be Belfast port. I think it would make quite a nice fictitious layout, with the m2/m3 bridge making a scenic break to hide the fiddle yard! But now that I come to think of it, there isn't that much that I'd nee... most of if not all of the locos for the freight trains were provided by IE I think, although I may be wrong... so if I had 208 and 112, a rake of gatwicks, maybe in sometime a class 3000/4000 repaint as UP suggested, and NIR signs and buildings, then I think I could preserve an NIR feel to the layout! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 there are lovely DD options now, that can run behind any 201 class... Lovely EXPENSIVE DD options now! But yes, I think I might have to get a 5 car rake at some point in time, they're too gorgeous to leave out! I could extend the enterprise line, or have one or two trains a day departing Belfast Harbour for Dublin. Quote
Flying Scotsman 4472 Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 As well as the current 071's in NIR, and the forthcoming 201 (hopefully), you've got C Class from Silverfox (NIR 106 / ex CIE 227) as well as the Class 70 repaint giving you a decent CAF 3k/4k. Gatwick stock is a repaint, and there are lovely DD options now, that can run behind any 201 class... Don't forget Stephen that Silverfox also do the Hunslet now and Chris Dyer will soon also have the full range of NIR coaches in all liveries from the 1970's enterprise right up to the Gatwicks. Quote
201bhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 Don't forget Stephen that Silverfox also do the Hunslet now and Chris Dyer will soon also have the full range of NIR coaches in all liveries from the 1970's enterprise right up to the Gatwicks. That's brilliant Anto! I'll buy a rake of Gatwicks when they come around! Quote
Guest hidden-agenda Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 If I was going to be doing an NIR layout, it would be Belfast port. I think it would make quite a nice fictitious layout, with the m2/m3 bridge making a scenic break to hide the fiddle yard! But now that I come to think of it, there isn't that much that I'd nee... most of if not all of the locos for the freight trains were provided by IE I think, although I may be wrong... so if I had 208 and 112, a rake of gatwicks, maybe in sometime a class 3000/4000 repaint as UP suggested, and NIR signs and buildings, then I think I could preserve an NIR feel to the layout! Its funny you mention the port as i was down in the old Stena line terminal car park before Xmas and there is some trackwork and points visible along the quay side, and remember there was track work into Duncrue street . Quote
201bhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 Its funny you mention the port as i was down in the old Stena line terminal car park before Xmas and there is some trackwork and points visible along the quay side, and remember there was track work into Duncrue street . It's funny you mention that! I was on Duncrue street yesterday and I saw some trackwork which I never knew about! Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 With funding from Europe,NIR will open a new line from Central to Belfast port,to tap into much needed freight revenue,which with a reverse from years gone by they hope to move containers to all parts of Ireland.A new station will also be built beside the ferry terminal to meet the booming tourist trade and will be served by modern railcars on a regularly basis to move passengers to their destinations quickly and efficiently,with connections to all cross border services. Fact or fiction,its all in the mind,but you have the power to decide! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 Ok! I'm going to go with the NIR plan! In the year of 2006, EU funded the building of a new line out to Belfast port. The plan included a new 3 platform station and a small, busy freight yard. Instead of scrapping the mk3s, IE decided to keep them, and use them for new services from Belfast to Rosslare, Cork, Galway and Limerick. NIR have introduced a new half-hourly service to Derry. The gatwicks have been reintroduced and now operate an hourly non-stop service to Derry. NIR have also bought the IE Galway rake so they could have two rakes of mk2s for the express service to Derry. There are new freight flows, such as new liner services to Ballina, Dublin, Cork and the newly opened new deep water port at Foynes! There is also a cement silo, and there are daily trains between Platin and Belfast. And finally, the port is used as a stabing point overnight for the newly reintroduced Derry-Waterford timber train! Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 11, 2013 Posted January 11, 2013 Wow! That makes for a superb line up! And don't forget visiting RPSI trains! I hear the May Tour might visit it! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 11, 2013 Author Posted January 11, 2013 (edited) Wow! That makes for a superb line up! And don't forget visiting RPSI trains! I hear the May Tour might visit it! Oh yes, forgot about them! A nice wee rake of mk2s and another one of Cravens! Edited January 12, 2013 by 201bhoy Quote
201bhoy Posted January 12, 2013 Author Posted January 12, 2013 Here's an edited plan of the layout, just with some extra scenic stuff. I thought the M1 bridge would be a good scenic break and would create a bit of atmosphere! Quote
BosKonay Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 Looks excellent!!! The motorway will give you a great break! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 12, 2013 Author Posted January 12, 2013 Looks excellent!!! The motorway will give you a great break! I thought so too! Hopefully it won't be too difficult to build! If it is, I might be calling in a certain Limerick man with a penchant for bridges and other buildings Quote
RedRich Posted January 12, 2013 Posted January 12, 2013 That plan looks smashing Vincent. Loads of potential. Rich, Quote
201bhoy Posted January 12, 2013 Author Posted January 12, 2013 That plan looks smashing Vincent. Loads of potential. Rich, Thanks Rich! Lets hope it lives up to that potential! Quote
BosKonay Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Keep us updated - lots of photos please! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 13, 2013 Author Posted January 13, 2013 Keep us updated - lots of photos please! No bother! I'll have to update the fleet soon! Quote
201bhoy Posted January 13, 2013 Author Posted January 13, 2013 Right. The new new fleet! Locos Murphy Models 220 (got) Murphy Models 208 Murphy Models 112 (got) Murphy Models 082 Murphy Models 177 (got) Murphy Models 171 Class 3000 or 4000 repaint Coaches 5 coach rake of mk3s (got) 5 coach rake of galway mk2s (need gen van and restaurant coach) 5 coach rake of gatwicks Wagons 5 dapol model shop pocket wagons 4 of hiddenagenda's container flats a few cement bubbles a few timber wagons I'm gonna be busy saving up! Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 On a thing like that, the port area might also have a lot of office space all round it on newly developed land, generating commuter services in and out from Portadown, and also there could be something loaded or unloaded of an Alexandra Road - esque quay tramway, operated by 111 and 112 (or 888888888111 and 800000000112)!! IE could re-introduce freight flows to Belfast, operating between North Wall or Dundalk and Belfast Port...... Quote
201bhoy Posted January 13, 2013 Author Posted January 13, 2013 On a thing like that, the port area might also have a lot of office space all round it on newly developed land, generating commuter services in and out from Portadown, and also there could be something loaded or unloaded of an Alexandra Road - esque quay tramway, operated by 111 and 112 (or 888888888111 and 800000000112)!! IE could re-introduce freight flows to Belfast, operating between North Wall or Dundalk and Belfast Port...... Yes, that's what I'm planning! Although I think IE normally provided the locos for the freight train, if I remember correctly. But I'm planning to have the whole freight yard concreted over for lorry access. I'll have to have the sea visible somewhere on the backscene, but I'm not sure where... Quote
BabyGM Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Wagons 5 dapol model shop pocket wagons 4 of hiddenagenda's container flats a few cement bubbles a few timber wagons I'm gonna be busy saving up! You could try and scratch build some of those wagons it would be much cheaper and you have the satisfaction of having something you've built you're self:tumbsup: Quote
Dave Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Shapeways are doing a pack of 6 of cement bubbles for €52, you can get a Dapol chassis cheap enough. Much cheaper than buying them complete. Also Studio Scale models do a detailing pack for them. http://www.shapeways.com/model/52807/6-pack-cie-bulk-quot-bubble-quot-cement-tank-n-scale.html?li=productBox-search Quote
RedRich Posted January 13, 2013 Posted January 13, 2013 Shapeways are doing a pack of 6 of cement bubbles for €52, you can get a Dapol chassis cheap enough. Much cheaper than buying them complete. Also Studio Scale models do a detailing pack for them. http://www.shapeways.com/model/52807/6-pack-cie-bulk-quot-bubble-quot-cement-tank-n-scale.html?li=productBox-search Those bubbles are N gauge Dave unless the designer has made them available in 00. Rich, Quote
201bhoy Posted January 13, 2013 Author Posted January 13, 2013 Thanks for the advice guys, but at present, I just have absolutely no time for any scratch building, I've my hands full with schoolwork, football and the layout! But who knows about later on? Quote
201bhoy Posted May 1, 2013 Author Posted May 1, 2013 Changed the plan a bit as I wanted to make more use of the massive crane Richie's building me by having three tracks under it! Also enables to have a small maintenance depot and a little siding for loco or dmu stabling. I'll be getting the controller soon and scenery work will start this summer. Just can't really believe how little has happened since this time last year, very depressing! But can't wait to finally get some trains running! Quote
Hunslet 102 Posted May 1, 2013 Posted May 1, 2013 For an 8x4 space available that layout plan looks very good.As a suggestion,if you have the room,to add to the operating potential,a head shunt coming off your 3 lines to the container yard would be a bonus.All you need do would be to replace the first point to the container yard with a double slip.Look forward to your progress in the coming months Quote
Glenderg Posted May 2, 2013 Posted May 2, 2013 Vincent, i think hunslet 102c makes a great point - no pun intended.. It might add a bit more operational fun to what you have. Also, I think you might need to update your plan to reflect the size of the crane though. It's 352mm wide. And will need rails on either side to move on. R . Quote
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