NIRCLASS80 Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016.html?utm_campaign=864319_Hornby%20-%202016%20launch%20-%20Week%2035%202015&utm_medium=email&utm_source=Hornby%20PLC&utm_content=Hornby%202016&_%24ja=tsid%3A71284&dm_i=2DJZ,IIWV,2QU1HG,17BO4,1 Saves any speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 I love the 4.4.2T Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 King Henry....phwaaaaarrrrrr!!! http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/br-4-6-0-king-henry-iii-6000-king-class-early-br.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 26, 2015 Share Posted November 26, 2015 King Henry....phwaaaaarrrrrr!!! http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/br-4-6-0-king-henry-iii-6000-king-class-early-br.html Give me a D17 any day! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 King Henry....phwaaaaarrrrrr!!! http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/br-4-6-0-king-henry-iii-6000-king-class-early-br.html Everyone's waiting for the Hattons / DJM attempt at a OO King. Should be finally released in 2017/2018. I'm sticking with the Malcolm Mitchell kit, which is the definitive model for 4mm scale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Totally agree horse. Who in their right mind would want to buy off the shelf quality, when you'd be missing out on the craic of rolling your own boilers. And Pete waterman needs them extra few shillings too, poor fella. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 ..... And Pete waterman needs them extra few shillings too, poor fella. David Geen, not Pete Waterman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 David Geen, not Pete Waterman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 ^^ Have ye seen Father Shortall? He'd be about eighty now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 ^^Have ye seen Father Shortall? He'd be about eighty now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Jasus lads, I thought I was dear £20. €28, for a Cattle Wagon It does look cool though, some new moulding on her http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/sr-cattle-wagon-bulleid-1.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just noticed this A class 71, Bo Bo Size wise not too far from a 121 Price £155, or €220 for us poor Europeans Hornby will do a minimum run of 10,000, maybe more If Murphy brings the 121 in under €200 I reckon it will be a bargain http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/br-class-71-e5022-br-green.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike 84C Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 That Peckett 0-4-0 looks rather interesting and a reasonable price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Just noticed thisA class 71, Bo Bo Size wise not too far from a 121 Price £155, or €220 for us poor Europeans Hornby will do a minimum run of 10,000, maybe more If Murphy brings the 121 in under €200 I reckon it will be a bargain http://www.hornby.com/uk-en/shop/new-for-2016/br-class-71-e5022-br-green.html Hi Dave. Hmmm - 203mm is too long for a 121 or C class (more 071 size). Pricey alright, but seems to be a decent chassis for a change being centre drive with both bogies powered compared to the usual Hornby mediocre fare. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 usual Hornby mediocre fare. A bit of a global statement there Noel. What particular locos would you apply that to, other than the Railroad range? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riversuir226 Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Hi Dave. Hmmm - 203mm is too long for a 121 or C class (more 071 size). Pricey alright, but seems to be a decent chassis for a change being centre drive with both bogies powered compared to the usual Hornby mediocre fare. Noel Eh i don t think he meant it as a donor for a 121, its just a comparison in the price. Edited November 27, 2015 by Riversuir226 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Eh i don t he meant it as a donor for a 121, its just a comparison in the price. "Size wise not too far from a 121". Ok I misunderstood. Size wise is the same length as an 071. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 A bit of a global statement there Noel. What particular locos would you apply that to, other than the Railroad range? Hi Des. I meant the quality of their 'drive' systems on diesels, not the quality of the body mouldings or detail. Have diesel chassis improved in recent years like this Class 71. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 David Geen, not Pete Waterman. from David Geen's Website "Part of the "JUST LIKE THE REAL THING" collection by Pete Waterman www.justliketherealthing.co.uk." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 (edited) Hi Des. I meant the quality of their 'drive' systems on diesels, not the quality of the body mouldings or detail. Have diesel chassis improved in recent years like this Class 71. Noel Apart from the Railroad (budget) range, their diesel locos are centre drive and have been for some time. For example, their class 31: Edited November 27, 2015 by Garfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 from David Geen's Website "Part of the "JUST LIKE THE REAL THING" collection by Pete Waterman www.justliketherealthing.co.uk." David Geen's website is years out of date, unfortunately, and he has no control over it. Only way to contact him is by post or phone these days, or catch him at finescale shows. The 4mm scale Mitchell range is in reality run under David's control, not Pete's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Hi Des. I meant the quality of their 'drive' systems on diesels, not the quality of the body mouldings or detail. Have diesel chassis improved in recent years like this Class 71. Noel Noel. I was referring to the drives as well. To validate the term usual mediocre fare what percentage of their locos use pancake/ringfield motors? Nothing wrong with single bogie drive per se provided it has the requisite torque and traction. I have a Hornby Class 31 (just like the one Garfield shows above) that I purchased on fleabay at least 7 years ago to cut and shut for an A Class, but on receipt, just didn't have the heart to destroy. Central can , working fan, sprung cab doors. Just couldn't. I mention it as it is a complete contrast to the Airfix C31 I used previously. Lovely donor base, but staring at the motor would be enough to make it stop. Ugh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Horsetan Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 ....I have a Hornby Class 31 (just like the one Garfield shows above) that I purchased on fleabay at least 7 years ago to cut and shut for an A Class, but on receipt, just didn't have the heart to destroy. Central can , working fan, sprung cab doors. Just couldn't..... There is a bit of a sting in the tail with the Hornby Class 31, since a fair few of them have suffered from flawed mazak underframe casting, which either leads to fracturing of the ends of the casting or expansion, causing the plastic body to distort and then shatter in the area of the cab front. Do keep an eye on this. The same type of thing notoriously affected the Heljan Class 47 which, not content with being too wide, then became too long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Apart from the Railroad (budget) range, their diesel locos are centre drive and have been for some time. That's true. Modellers just won't accept bad drives in locos anymore. The Railroad stuff IS bad, but you get what you pay for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 That Peckett 0-4-0 looks rather interesting and a reasonable price. Not a million miles away from Allman's Distillery (later the GSR's) singleton Peckett. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 There is a bit of a sting in the tail with the Hornby Class 31, since a fair few of them have suffered from flawed mazak underframe casting, which either leads to fracturing of the ends of the casting or expansion, causing the plastic body to distort and then shatter in the area of the cab front. Do keep an eye on this. The same type of thing notoriously affected the Heljan Class 47 which, not content with being too wide, then became too long. You can always gut the loco and try to scratchbuild a suitable chassis. At the very least it would be the right size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 you can always gut the loco and try to scratchbuild a suitable chassis. At the very least it would be the right size... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 You can always gut the loco and try to scratchbuild a suitable chassis. At the very least it would be the right size... +1, well said man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshty Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 There is a bit of a sting in the tail with the Hornby Class 31, since a fair few of them have suffered from flawed mazak underframe casting Not a concern for my model that may still go under the chop! Point noted, but it doesn't detract from the fact that standard locos now come with significantly improved drives. Regarding the Airfix C31, I bought a second, thinking I was unlucky the first time. Nope. The second was equally sh*te. Obviously the motors just demagnetise over the intervening 30 years. They would whiz away with no load (power applied directly to motor leads), but the moment any torque was applied, nada. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Not a million miles away from Allman's Distillery (later the GSR's) singleton Peckett. I don't think I've ever seen a photo of this locomotive. Do you know of any? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I don't think I've ever seen a photo of this locomotive. Do you know of any? Think there's one in the IRRS booklet Railways of Co Cork, one in the Ernie Shepherd CB&SCR book and one in the ITG Steam Loco Register book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 Think there's one in the IRRS booklet Railways of Co Cork, one in the Ernie Shepherd CB&SCR book and one in the ITG Steam Loco Register book. Cheers for that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
minister_for_hardship Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 And one here, scroll down towards end to see. http://www.corkcoco.ie/photographs/ColmCreedonCollection/CorkBandon&SouthCorkRailwayVol1.pdf (Actually two pics, incl a collision with horse dray pic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 And one here, scroll down towards end to see. http://www.corkcoco.ie/photographs/ColmCreedonCollection/CorkBandon&SouthCorkRailwayVol1.pdf (Actually two pics, incl a collision with horse dray pic) Excellent, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I just noticed that there are some subtle differences between the Solidworks 3D (Mulitcoloured images) and the rendered 3D of the proposed models, the latter having a bit more detail. Just be mindful to check the multicoloured images for a closer representation of what will actually be produced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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